Poll: Fat people - what's your opinion?

[magnuslion]

they have a right to do what they want, but I feel sad they cant have a better self image and do something for themselves.

 

[Batfred]

What do I think of fat people? Not a lot. But I hate that we are spending millions on coaxing them to give up junk food. If they want to eat it, let them, and divert the money to places where it is actually worth it.

In every other respect, I treat them as I would any other person; snidely.

JUST STOP EATING and therefore becoming tax sink holes. It really isn't that difficult. Before we had mountains of food in the west, did we have fatties? NO! It is just weak will power!

 

[BlazeTheVampire]

I'm 168 cms (which is about 5foot 8 inches) and 70 kgs.
I'm slightly overweight.
I tried to lose weight by doing loads of push ups+ lifting weights.
I didn't lose a gramm but at least I can now do even more push ups.

OT: I like girls that are about the same height as me and just a bit slim, I dunno how many kgs that is.

Muscle weighs more than fat. You probably converted a bit of fat into muscle.

I guess...
I still don't know how much my ideal girlfriend would weigh.

In general, women have less muscle to them so most men ballpark 20-30lbs less than themselves (at least from the guys I've asked about it). Not to mention, guys prefer their girlfriends lighter for the purpose of sitting on laps, lifting during sex, etc. XD

 

[Vianyte]

I don't know my weight or height but you don't need a genius to tell me I'm slim. What's amusing about about it is that I eat a lot of junk food (mainly chocolate and biscuits) and barely do any exercise. Hooray for fast metabolism!

There's nothing wrong with fat people, except that they are fat. I don't know many fat people but I'm sure they're nice folk.

 

[reg42]

I'm chubby, it seems to be in my genes. I think obese people should at least try to lose weight, that makes it sort of okay IMO.

 

[Jedoro]

I'd prefer a relatively skinny girl, but a little more is alright.

By the way, obesity shouldn't be considered a disease. You can't call out because you're fat.

 

[teisjm]

i'd say 120-140 if speaking generally, but it could depend, like a short girl could weigh less without beeing too skinny.

 

[crypt-creature]

I don't know about other nations, but in the states obesity has been declared an epidemic. Having worked in an OR, I can tell you that while I think this classification is as misguided as declaring alcoholism a disease, over 95% of the patients I've worked with were obese, and greater than 80% were morbidly so.

The amount of trash we consume is rather alarming, and it's certainly having a tremendous negative impact on our collective health - but what do you think about overweight people in general? My avatar has been met with a mix of curiosity and vitriol for being fat; I've been told that fat people are a disgrace to the species and a symbol of decadence, and one member tried to get me on probation after threatening me for using her image. When I discuss different body image archetypes on The Escapist, at least one guy always tells me with absolute certainty that she'll be a diabetic with varicose veins and a bad back within the decade. Rarely do I encounter any consideration for the fact that many large people have thyroid deficiencies or are otherwise genetically predisposed.

Another fun thing about being 'overweight', or thinking you are, most people forget that measuring your weight does not mean all that weight is fat.
I see a lot of slender people freak out if they are slightly overweight, thinking it all must be fat and not possibly muscle. You can have a healthy weight but be slight 'overweight' if someone has a lot of muscle for their size.

I have mixed feeling on the issue.
Sure, some people simple over-eat, some have deficiencies and other such things, but a large part of it is society. Society is always on the move, sitting down for a decent meal that you can prepare or get at a decent price that is near you, is not always easy. Grabbing junk food to shovel down your throat while you cram to meet a deadline, isn't helping people with healthy eating habits.
By the time people get home, depending on the living situation they may be too tired to make a decent meal and skip for something quicker. They also may not want to work out for various reasons, especially if they have little time to relax at home and take the edge off from work.
A lot of situations set people up with bad habits, which are hard to break and adjust.

Some people just don't want to, no matter what hazard it might be to their health. Those people, I can't muster much sympathy for. I'm not going to be a prick to them, unless they have a particularly ugly attitude or are offensive.

 

[manaman]

Fat people aren't very healthy or fertile, hence were biologicaly created to not regard them as possible mates, so our children have a bigger chance at being perfect, which is one of the basic urges humans have. I think (especially in the western nations) there are far too many fat people, mostly because they have no control over themselves, and also because the food is crap. I mean fast food like KFC, burger king and Mc Donald is so bad for people its crazy. I also saw a show on tv, where ive seen people making cakes out of coca cola and mayonaise, which freaked me out. People need to watch their weight and eat less so they will be a lot more healthy, and not die. Obesity is in a way a mental disease. I think everyone should make an effort to be as fit as possible, since when fit you can do a lot more things that no one should miss out on, such as sports, and sex!

That is a bunch of lunacy.

You can be healthy and be fat, unhealthy and skinny. The underlying behavior in most cases is likely both the reason a person gets massively overweight and the reason they cannot seem to form a real romantic relationship with someone else. There is no genetic programing to avoid overweight people. There is a point through where overweight becomes obese, and that is a point nobody should cross. Sure being a little less active these days causes most of use to pack on a few extra pounds and there is no problem with that, but there is no reason to be 150lbs overweight. Not everyone that is overweight really has full control over the situation, and the obese most defiantly do not want to be that way.


As far as the OP goes.

I am 6ft tall and I weigh 245 lbs. According to every hight-weight chart there is I am morbidly obese, yet I hardly have a gut. So I have a hard time understanding how someone can even decide to take weight in as a factor when they are deciding if they are attracted to someone or not. Body type sure that I get, but weight? Just not seeing how it matters at all.

 

[dietpeachsnapple]

Specifically, 110 - 130 for female lovers.

165 - 185 for male lovers.

It can be variable on height and frame.

 

[Woodsey]

What do I think of fat people? Not a lot. But I hate that we are spending millions on coaxing them to give up junk food. If they want to eat it, let them, and divert the money to places where it is actually worth it.

Agreed - you can only help people so much, they have to get off their fat arses (excuse the pun) and do something about it.

They should also pay more for plane tickets - if you're luggage has a weight limit of how much you can take on, why does the 300 pound guy behind you in the queue pay the same when he weighs more than you and your luggage combined?

I don't want to victimise them, but changes like this (I believe) will be more effective at making them want to lose the weight; because if they're not bothered about it then they won't.

 

[zohmbee]

Huh, I have no opinion on body weight. I can honestly say I don't care about it when it comes to friend/relationships. Sometimes it's people's fault for over-eating, yes, but others it's not. Like me and a couple friends, it's genetics. I eat less in a week than my friend, who weighs 100 lbs with rocks in her pockets. And she's a year older than me.

I don't feel like telling my weight, but you'd probably have a hard time guessing. With my father's genetics, hardly any weight goes to my stomach area. ^_^

 

[j0frenzy]

As someone who generally watches what they eat and make generally healthy choices on what I eat and am still overweight because of genetics, I really think that everyone who wants to tell me to put down the goddamned fork can go fuck off leave me alone. I hate that everyone assumes that fat is always a choice. Same way how my brother ate McDonalds for all of high school and was never overweight. It wasn't because he exercised and made healthy decisions.
Also, asthma and poor air circulation tends to cut down on the amount of exercising I want to do. I can be fit or breathe. I'll go with breath.
As far as my mate goes, I have always been more about the personality than the appearance, which is probably why I am madly in love with a woman that I have been dating for over 4 years and who is slightly overweight and average in appearance.

 

[Fraeir]

Honestly, dunno, haven't had a girlfriend nor anything like lover yet (though I'd like both in one, not one or the other). I'd say a tidy bit below the average, maybe, whatever that is? I'm a skinny guy at 6'1", so I'd like someone lighter than me, anyway, I guess.

Though: "I like small butts and I cannot lie, you honkies can't deny. When a girl walks in with an itty-bitty waist and big thing in your face I get... sick, because I like a toothpick, I smack that booty with a stick..." etc.

*Had to*

 

[sh1fty]

As an resident of the UK i find that obese people are quite literally a drain on society as the national health service (NHS) is government run and therefore funded by the tax payer. The amount of money being spent on the obese on treatment due to problems with their weight and also specialised equipment such as reinforced ambulances and wider wheelchairs (no bullshit) are costing the nhs millions every year.
i feel that the problems the problems these people are recieving treatment for are braught on through their own over indulgance and it should not be our responsibility to keep the feckers alive if they clearly want to eat themselves into an early grave.

 

[funguy2121]

I just like a really big butt... Like my girlfriend!

If you quote Sir Mix-a-lot I'm reporting you!

Fat people aren't very healthy or fertile, hence were biologicaly created to not regard them as possible mates, so our children have a bigger chance at being perfect, which is one of the basic urges humans have. I think (especially in the western nations) there are far too many fat people, mostly because they have no control over themselves, and also because the food is crap. I mean fast food like KFC, burger king and Mc Donald is so bad for people its crazy. I also saw a show on tv, where ive seen people making cakes out of coca cola and mayonaise, which freaked me out. People need to watch their weight and eat less so they will be a lot more healthy, and not die. Obesity is in a way a mental disease. I think everyone should make an effort to be as fit as possible, since when fit you can do a lot more things that no one should miss out on, such as sports, and sex!

Kind sir, did you just bring Evolutionary Psyche into my thread? Be gone with you!

Of my lover? Well for starters I don't have one, and that really depends a lot on how tall/short this hypothetical female is, now wouldn't it? You can't really say "this is the ideal weight" if you don't have the other relevant factoids about a person.

This hypothetical person would not be a fat chick though, just so that's all squared away.

3'6"

 

[SnipErlite]

Ideal? Light enough to be on top

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Poll attached.

Your poll is impossible for me to answer as my ideal lover would weigh a great deal and would look something like this...

Spoiler

That said, I think "ideal" weight is something is a little difficult to pin down. Muscle mass, height, bone structure, etc are all factors. Also, while I don't think it is good or attractive for someone to be obese, I'd much rather spend my time and energy on a nice obese person than on a self-loving perfectly formed prick.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Around my size...

 

[Tranka Verrane]

Can I say your poll is meaningless as it doesn't take into account either the sex or the height of your partner. Something based on BMI would be more meaningful. I'm in the last category but I'm well over six feet tall, and fairly well built. I'm in the upper range of ideal weight for my height, and given I'm fairly muscular, I'm comfortable with that.

As for a partner, I don't mind overweight, as long as not obese. Personality and facial looks are more important than a little curvaceousness.