The Byzantines are my favorite, but technically Rome was the most powerful in the history of the world, relative to other empires of its time.
I thought the problems with the Middle East were mainly caused by the creation of Israel by the League of Nations, American and Russian intervention in the cold war, and American influence since? Please educate me if I'm wrong.blindthrall said:They carved up the Middle East into an ethnic clusterfuck that is still trying to untangle itself. And Marx, who lived in England, thought up communism mostly because of how shitty the British treated their lower class. But jolly good show going toe-to-toe with Hitler for the entire war.
Well, I think it's impressive how it dissolved without much of a fight. I also think it's impressive that at some point it was the largest Empire on Earth, even though it wasn't holding all that land at the same time. I think it's impressive that they managed to gain such an immense technical advantage, and so take many places without a fight. But then I guess I have different criteria for judging Empires. I'm more about technology, sheer size, and political weight rather than raw kill-counts.blindthrall said:It looks impressive until you think about how many years it took to amass, and consider they never held all of that territory at one time. And much of that territory was taken without a fight, or with such a technological superiority there may as well have not been a fight. Colonial powers were simply bullies.Danny Ocean said:Oh come now, there's really no contest.
What? The British Empire reached its peak in the 1800's, way after America had declared its independance.Pandairon said:The only thing to ever stop it was the Americans with the aid of the french
Marx had a massive array of influences, its unfair to put Communism down to the Brits. Revolutionary France was probably the biggest influence, as it made him remove the Bourgoise from his writting as a friend of the prolietariat.blindthrall said:And Marx, who lived in England, thought up communism mostly because of how shitty the British treated their lower class.
Don't forget the Spanish and the Netherlands. Two other world superpowers of the time.johnman said:What? The British Empire reached its peak in the 1800's, way after America had declared its independance.Pandairon said:The only thing to ever stop it was the Americans with the aid of the french
China is hardly a continuous empire.Gethsemani said:China springs to mind. A country that size that has existed as an idea for almost 3000 years and as an actual (if often divided) empire for 2000 years? Yeah, those guys know what they are doing. They are also one of the few empires that has consistently managed to assimilate their would-be conquerers into their own culture to such a degree that the conquerers eventually called themselves Chinese.
Woooo!Danny Ocean said:Don't forget the Spanish and the Netherlands. Two other world superpowers of the time.johnman said:What? The British Empire reached its peak in the 1800's, way after America had declared its independance.Pandairon said:The only thing to ever stop it was the Americans with the aid of the french
The only thing that really stopped it was WWII. We only finished paying off the debts in 2006, that's how bankrupt it made us.
Although technically we do still have overseas colonies. Does that mean that technically the Empire still exists?
EDIT: Also; Yay, Johnman! Stick up for the Empire!