Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

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Hagi

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Alumatine said:
It's against the law because it wasn't consensual and it wasn't consensual because it's the law. Got that one stitched up pretty nice haven't you.

I've met some pretty insanely mature kids and some pretty stupid adults. Age isn't everything in terms of consent.
It's against the law because he's 14. End of story. His consent is completely irrelevant because he doesn't have the right to give it. It's called statutory rape, Google it.

Age is everything in terms of consent. We take away that consent from the 5% of 14-year olds mature enough to handle it in order to protect the 95% of 14-year olds not mature enough. That's how society works, you give up things in order to live together peacefully.

Just like we take away the 'right' to drink alcohol from those few children mature enough to handle it in order to protect the large majority of children who aren't mature enough to treat it responsibly.
Just like we take away the 'right' to drive from those few children mature enough to handle it in order to protect the large majority of children who aren't mature enough to treat it responsibly.

Because we expect those that are mature enough at 14 to still be mature enough at 16 and with their maturity understand these things and wait two years for the common good.
 

Alumatine

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Hagi said:
Alumatine said:
It's against the law because it wasn't consensual and it wasn't consensual because it's the law. Got that one stitched up pretty nice haven't you.

I've met some pretty insanely mature kids and some pretty stupid adults. Age isn't everything in terms of consent.
It's against the law because he's 14. End of story. His consent is completely irrelevant because he doesn't have the right to give it. It's called statutory rape, Google it.
I'm not in the USA, just because your laws are backwards doesn't mean I have to agree with them. End of Story. It's called the right of free speech. Google it.


Europeans are sexual adventurous sissys and Americans are sexual repressed and full of violence (or similar wording from the editors podcast on this very site). We are different people but that doesn't mean we have to agree with you. Feel free to invade Australia or Europe... we'll have sex with you until you leave. :)
 

mjc0961

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Dags90 said:
Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Bonus of sex offender registry from community chest.

This is what a fourteen year old boy looks like (Not the one from this case, from another):
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/06/11/image5082228x.jpg

Do you honestly think 20 year olds of any sex should be fucking that?
I agree with this. Sure, it's easy to see an attractive woman and a younger boy and pull a South Park [http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155304/nice], but at the end of the day it's still illegal. And last I knew, the laws just said having sex with a minor is illegal, not that it's illegal unless you an attractive female in which case that's pretty sweet for the minor.

Come on, if this was an unattractive woman sleeping with a 14 year old boy or any man sleeping with a 14 year old girl, this wouldn't even be up for discussion. It'd be "off to jail with that adult" and probably some extreme "cut his junk off" if the adult was a male (there's always at least one person who says that whenever a man sexually abuses someone). This particular woman shouldn't get a pass or be treated differently because she's attractive.

Alumatine said:
It's against the law because it wasn't consensual and it wasn't consensual because it's the law. Got that one stitched up pretty nice haven't you.
It's also against the law because she got him drunk which would remove his legal right to consent (assuming he had it in the first place, which in the US, he didn't). Is that law backwards too or should we all go out and pour drinks down the throats of anyone we want to sleep with until they're too drunk to make a rational decision?
 

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They should just be separated. That's it. No Trial. No Rehab. Nothing.

Why? Cause the kid clearly consented to fucking her. Those of you saying this is sexual "abuse": Shut the fuck up. He wasn't "abused". I'd put money on it.

And I guess the girl either felt okay with giving a kid what he wanted and/or maybe even fancied younger men. What's the big deal with that? TONS of women are infatuated with younger men-
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*Ahem, sorry that was a very loud cough. Damn cold. ;)
Hear hear! She did something stupid, he isn't hurt in any way.

And yes, to anyone saying this is 'sexual abuse', I'll bet you ten bucks that this kid thought he was living the dream. And I can't blame him if a chick like that wants to bang him.
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bakan said:
Come on, does no one read the BIG RED EDIT and just rant about how a boy got raped when it was consensual?
It was not consensual.

The boy is 14. He's a minor. He is incapable of giving consent.

This is the law of Connecticut:
Wikipedia said:
The general age of consent in Connecticut is 16. This applies in most normal relationships.

However, if any of the following apply, then the age of consent becomes 18:
Where one person is a guardian, or responsible for the general supervision, of the other. See C.G.S. § 53a-71(a)(4).
Where one person is an athletic coach or an intensive instructor (e.g. piano teacher) outside of a school setting, and the other is being coached or instructed. See C.G.S. § 53a-71(9)(B).
Where one person's professional, legal, occupational or volunteer status gives him/her a role of supervision, power, or authority, over the other's participation in a program or activity, and the older person is at least 20-years-old. See C.G.S. § 53a-71(a)(4).
As a 14-year old he can not give consent. No matter what he says it's not consensual.

She's a criminal. Simple as that. Should she go to jail? Probably not, she's only 20 and did something very very stupid. But she should definitely be given either a heavy fine or long community service.

Sex without consent is never excusable, and this was not in any way or form consensual.
And this is why I sometimes hate laws. Things should be judged on a case-by-case basis. I have no doubt that he wanted the sex, I mean good heavens he's a teenager, legal definitions be damned. There is no real victim in this case. It's absolutely mind boggling for me as a foreigner that, for the law over there, this case is pretty much identical to plain rape.
 

Alumatine

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mjc0961 said:
Dags90 said:
Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Bonus of sex offender registry from community chest.

This is what a fourteen year old boy looks like (Not the one from this case, from another):
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/06/11/image5082228x.jpg

Do you honestly think 20 year olds of any sex should be fucking that?
I agree with this. Sure, it's easy to see an attractive woman and a younger boy and pull a South Park [http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155304/nice], but at the end of the day it's still illegal. And last I knew, the laws just said having sex with a minor is illegal, not that it's illegal unless you an attractive female in which case that's pretty sweet for the minor.

Come on, if this was an unattractive woman sleeping with a 14 year old boy or any man sleeping with a 14 year old girl, this wouldn't even be up for discussion. It'd be "off to jail with that adult" and probably some extreme "cut his junk off" if the adult was a male (there's always at least one person who says that whenever a man sexually abuses someone). This particular woman shouldn't get a pass or be treated differently because she's attractive.

Alumatine said:
It's against the law because it wasn't consensual and it wasn't consensual because it's the law. Got that one stitched up pretty nice haven't you.
It's also against the law because she got him drunk which would remove his legal right to consent (assuming he had it in the first place, which in the US, he didn't). Is that law backwards too or should we all go out and pour drinks down the throats of anyone we want to sleep with until they're too drunk to make a rational decision?
Where does it say she got him drunk? Did his mother say that? How do you know he didn't provide the alcohol? It would have been just as hard for a 20 year old as a 14 year old... don't you need to be 21? Maybe she said "don't drink" and he did it anyway. Maybe he got into his mums booze stash before she arrived. You are making assumptions and condemning her for them. Well done.
 

Von Strimmer

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This kid is 14 and GOT RAPED! and he still manages to do better than me when it comes to attracting very attractive women. The world is twisted and cruel!
 

Hagi

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Alumatine said:
I'm not in the USA, just because your laws are backwards doesn't mean I have to agree with them. End of Story. It's called the right of free speech. Google it.
I'm not in the USA either. Just because you don't agree with laws doesn't mean you don't have to abide by them.

And statutory rape and age of consent are hardly limited to the USA. The Age of Consent in Australia, according to your profile your country, is also 16. This would have been just as illegal in Australia as in the USA.
 

Jyggalag

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If the title was "Male Has Sex With 14 Year Old Girl" I guarantee the poll would be drastically different.
 

SmartyShorts

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duncants said:
Alumatine said:
anyway OT: The bottom line is there is not enough love in the world as it is, why are American laws so stupid sometimes? Punishing someone for having a sexual relationship? really?
There are too many families in this country where one or even both of the parents aren't involved in their children's lives. Had they done it unprotected and the babysitter got pregnant, the 14 year old wouldn't be able to support a baby. As someone who recently graduated high school, I can tell you that most kids aren't looking for a relationship when they have sex. Usually it's casual hookups. I've heard about people as young as 14 ruining their lives by getting pregnant, whether it's from being clumsy or not knowing enough about sex.

That's why America has laws about rape, even when the sex is consensual. Luckily, the babysitter and the kid knew what they were doing in this case.
 

Neonit

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he is underage. i dont know about international laws, but where i live, having sex with underage MEANS rape. doesnt matter if "he wanted it". still rape. no exceptions.

also, yeah, double standards, but what are you going to do about it?
 

karloss01

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Alar said:
I think that we're fairly prudish as a nation. People at fourteen are already having sex, knowing about sex, wanting sex (I've overheard this from young people in our community, it's kind of crazy these days). I don't really think we should drop the age limit quite that far, but this is the sort of thing that makes you question certain laws.
its very crazy these days the amount of conversations 16 year old girls about sex and masterbation while i'm in the elevator is insane and surprisingly they seem to be more open about than guys.

but yeah it is a crime with the age gap but i do think that 14 isn't too young to understand the risks, they just don't care. i also wonder if the boy wanted to press charges or the parents because he may of actually enjoyed it.

after all, the reason people are more lenient when its an older woman and not a man is because a young girl is most likely a virgin and thus its a pretty painful experiance, while for guys, no so much. at least that my theory.

so i would say jail if the boy didn't want it or Community service if he did, after all the parents may have gone over the top and the boy may have wanted to get drunk but then it went too far.
 

ianskogberg

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Grammar police strikes back!

Please please please tell me this headline was supposed to read "Female babysitter charged WITH having sex with 14 year old boy". If you say that she was charged FOR it, it means you have a 14 year old man-whore who won't sleep with a woman unless she pays him...
 

chstens

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As they say in South Park... "Niceeee..." What I find most questionable here is, how did the authorities find out about this? Did the 14-year-old tell his parents? Is he really that dumb?
 

ImmortalDrifter

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I would be too busy bragging to all of my friends in Junior High that I had sex with a hot 20 year old to bother to report it. I'm pretty sure every 14 year old boy would.

She should be registered as a sex offender though. Jail may be a bit much, as I doubt the kid is actually that much scarred by this.
 

Vrach

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Consentual sex, no crime here as far as I can see. No, not saying it because she's hot and not saying it because the younger person is a male. I know girls who've had sex at that age with a guy who was 19, big whoop, they both wanted it, it's their choice.