Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

[somonels]

I support full punishment. Do you think I improving? Learning to be a better person? Wrong! I do so not because of the kid getting laid, possibly several times, but mostly because she thought she could get away with it. HA!

 

[keosegg]

There are three really important (to me at least) questions here.

1. Did she get him drunk, or did they drink together?

2. Did he or a family member press charges?

3. Did he want to have sex with her?

Without those questions properly answered I cannot form a proper opinion on the matter.

If it turns out that they had a few drinks together, had sex willingly and a parent pressed charges I do believe this woman to be innocent.

I agree. The "sex offender" label doesn't provide too many career opportunities and I don't think this woman deserves such a recommendation.

Though, in light of the new edit, I must add this to the list of questions:

4.What was the nature of the relationship?

Because if the relationship was an abusive one and the kid only agreed to have sex due to fear, blackmail, forcing him to sit through a Jersey Shore marathon, etc. then the woman deserves some form of punishment.

However, from the information at hand, the woman seems innocent.

 

[Nightvalien]

where's the "send the ***** to silent hill" option, that retarded girl gotta burn. I miss the old days where when shit like this happened we would bring up torches and pitchforks, that's just gross.

 

[mrwoo6]

Remember back when there was another case of female teachers having sex with male students coming out every other week? As horrible as it was, the test for guilty or not guilty really did come down to, is she hot or not? Some sort of double standard 'Can't rape the willing' thing. Which, unfortunately, makes perfect sense to me.

If the kid really is pressing charges himself, then, well, ya, rape is rape. But from the sounds of it, it isn't the kid pressing charges.

The story just has weird all over it though, so I can't really form a proper opinion on it. However, I did vote that she should be executed. Mostly for making that stupid duckface while taking a picture of herself in front of a mirror, I mean, come on...people still do that?

So if a 9-year-old girl willingly has sex with a 35-year-old man, it shouldn't be punished.

Realize that if you disagree your entire argument falls apart, it doesn't matter if the 9-year-old doesn't quite understand what she's doing, the 14-year-old doesn't either. (functionality, yes, but mental development, no)

So, do we support raping little girls, or should this awful, criminal, rapist go to jail?

While I get what your saying, the mental understanding and difference in growth physicality and mentally between a 9 year old girl and a 14 year old boy is massive.

The 14 boy knew what he was doing, and he probably bloody enjoyed it. Your forgetting that the ages and the sex have a massive part to do with how much punished is needed

A court case of a 10 year old girl and a 65 year old man should not and wont play out the same as a 16 year old girl and a 23 year old (Which is perfectly legal in Scotland)It ain't so black and white

 

[Liudeius]

While I get what your saying, the mental understanding and difference in growth physicality and mentally between a 9 year old girl and a 14 year old boy is massive.

The 14 boy knew what he was doing, and he probably bloody enjoyed it. Your forgetting that the ages and the sex have a massive part to do with how much punished is needed

A court case of a 10 year old girl and a 65 year old man should not and wont play out the same as a 16 year old girl and a 23 year old (Which is perfectly legal in Scotland)It ain't so black and white

Well the key there is that willingness is not the important aspect. What has to be determined is if a 14-year-old has the mental and physical capacity to understand sex and that which comes with it to a suitable degree.
Considering the law has already decided that those under the age of 16 are not suitably capable of making this decision, she must go to jail regardless of his willingness.

 

[ShindoL Shill]

They should just be separated. That's it. No Trial. No Rehab. Nothing.

Why? Cause the kid clearly consented to fucking her. Those of you saying this is sexual "abuse": Shut the fuck up. He wasn't "abused". I'd put money on it.

And I guess the girl either felt okay with giving a kid what he wanted and/or maybe even fancied younger men. What's the big deal with that? TONS of women are infatuated with younger men-
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*Ahem, sorry that was a very loud cough. Damn cold.

At age 14, you can't consent to sex in the United States. Sleeping with a minor when you're not a minor is statutory rape and that alone is a serious crime. That's ignoring the fact that she gave alcohol to a minor with the intent of clouding his mental judgement (Which is a serious crime of itself).

in scotland you can't consent until 16.
also the male will get charged. even if he's underage, in scotland the male will get charged with statutory rape. some stat rape laws are fucking retarded.
plus, i doubt she would need alcohol to cloud his judgement: (or be doing that for months, he would have fairly obvious hangovers/medical effects, given that he was a 14 year old boy.
what i'm saying there is she's hot.
still, its against the law, and this isnt Shakespearean times (Juliet of Romeo and Juliet was 13) but prison will not do her good. neither will getting a 14 year old and saying to the entire world "see this kid, year he was fucking this girl and it was fine, but now we're making a whole massive-ass thing about it, despite how he isn't complaining. but look at him! look look look!"
so now he's probably embarrassed, as well as his mother (who will probably blame that on him) and so is the girl.

and the argument my PSE (basically sex ed) teacher said 'just because your PHYSICALLY ready doesnt mean you're MENTALLY ready.'
which i see as society's fault. legally, you can't watch porn until you're 18.
'Medical personnel have found by careful observation of small boys that they often get erections ? particularly after the age of about seven' (that does sound a bit creepy)
'But sexuality does not exist only in the genitals. It's part of everything surrounding you and who you are. That is why youngsters may become passionately fond of (say) a film star, or a pop singer ? or a teacher.'
and this: 'the UK Government joined the Netherlands and other European nations in encouraging teens to masturbate at least daily.'
why? to stop teen pregnancy. hooray. despite that, since theres no porn (probably because parents put up filters) people have started fucking age 16. but they arent getting pregnant. because not all teens who screw are idiots.
so basically, people are mentally evolving to screw age 7, meaning that unless the most sexual thing they see is a cucumber/someone squeezing an orange for juice, they will probably be mentally and physically ready by about 14/15 any way.

so in conclusion, we should all STFU about this and let people live their lives, and probably think more about the laws about this sort of thing.

 

[quantumsoul]

Other than braking a law she did nothing wrong. She likely made him a more confident well adjusted young man.

I wish a hot girl had sex with me when I was 14. I'd have confidence through the roof. Now I'm 29 and still shy and awkward around women(though nowhere near as bad as I used to be). To me she's a hero.

 

[Hagi]

I would say both wanted it because it went on for month and just yet the mother pressed charges and said the baby sitter got him drunk and they had sex...

If it really was consentual (even if the law says you can't have consentual sex before 16 - bollocks), I don't see a problem and if she has to go to jail for it, it won't help anyone and just destroys her life.
Btw I would say the same if it were a 19/20 year old boy and younger girl (relationship of them began when she was 19).

edit:

No, not only third world countries: http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm
If they both wanted it, don't be a prude and laws have to be adjusted in time with kids maturing faster...

Because childhood sexual abuse leads to kids maturing faster.....

Seriously, read this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse]. That whole list of emotional and psychological issues doesn't just apply when a child is actively forced to have sex. Everything there can also occur when a child is asked to engage in sexual activities, when indecent exposure of genitals to that child occurs, when that child is touched in a sexual manner and when a child is used for sexual gratification (and a child is always used because there are serious psychological reasons for age of consent laws).

A child's brain isn't the same as an adult's brain. It's still in development and requires serious care. It's incapable of reasoning the way an adult does, it's incapable of processing things the way an adult does. Nothing wrong with that, that's the way our brains work. Most of the brain's development occurs outside of the womb and requires active attention from parents and caretakers to develop.

A child simply isn't emotionally ready for sexual relationships with peers. He/she isn't able to deal with the emotional and possible physical consequences (STDs, pregnancies etc.) that this has.

Sexual relations with someone very near the same age is one thing, though even that is often regretted. But sexual relations with someone in a peer position, like a babysitter, is entirely something else and can have serious consequences.

Children need peers to learn from and to aid in their development. When someone in a peer role, like a babysitter, adds sexual relations to this it causes harm and issues to that child's development.

Of course, the harm caused by a babysitter when the child is 14 is relatively minor but it's still there. The babysitter shouldn't be treated as a rapist, but she's still a criminal. This is still minor child abuse, and as such it should be treated seriously and not dismissed as "living the dream" or some form of sexual education.

 

[GraveeKing]

The main reason I don't take this seriously though, and I really don't want to admit it; is that she's an attractive young female as opposed to the stereotypical sex offender. All hate for double standards aside, would you really send this woman to jail for getting a teen drunk and having sex with him?

If a man had done this he'd have been in jail no matter what, even if the kid was happy to do so and can make his own judgement. I'm offended that the fact she's 'an attractive young female' should even come into the matter! This is double standards to prove my point that we're sexist against men all the time these days, So a 'stereotypical sex offender' is going obviously be a middle aged man who's a total pervert.
Enough with these double standards, this shouldn't be brought into question at all - she deserves jail time and let that be the end of it. If she gets anything less than the full fair sentence it'll just prove my point that women get let off the hook for way too many things and it's gone way way beyond a joke now.

 

[bakan]

I would say both wanted it because it went on for month and just yet the mother pressed charges and said the baby sitter got him drunk and they had sex...

If it really was consentual (even if the law says you can't have consentual sex before 16 - bollocks), I don't see a problem and if she has to go to jail for it, it won't help anyone and just destroys her life.
Btw I would say the same if it were a 19/20 year old boy and younger girl (relationship of them began when she was 19).

edit:

No, not only third world countries: http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm
If they both wanted it, don't be a prude and laws have to be adjusted in time with kids maturing faster...

Because childhood sexual abuse leads to kids maturing faster.....

Seriously, read this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse]. That whole list of emotional and psychological issues doesn't just apply when a child is actively forced to have sex. Everything there can also occur when a child is asked to engage in sexual activities, when indecent exposure of genitals to that child occurs, when that child is touched in a sexual manner and when a child is used for sexual gratification (and a child is always used because there are serious psychological reasons for age of consent laws).

A child's brain isn't the same as an adult's brain. It's still in development and requires serious care. It's incapable of reasoning the way an adult does, it's incapable of processing things the way an adult does. Nothing wrong with that, that's the way our brains work. Most of the brain's development occurs outside of the womb and requires active attention from parents and caretakers to develop.

A child simply isn't emotionally ready for sexual relationships with peers. He/she isn't able to deal with the emotional and possible physical consequences (STDs, pregnancies etc.) that this has.

Sexual relations with someone very near the same age is one thing, though even that is often regretted. But sexual relations with someone in a peer position, like a babysitter, is entirely something else and can have serious consequences.

Children need peers to learn from and to aid in their development. When someone in a peer role, like a babysitter, adds sexual relations to this it causes harm and issues to that child's development.

Of course, the harm caused by a babysitter when the child is 14 is relatively minor but it's still there. The babysitter shouldn't be treated as a rapist, but she's still a criminal. This is still minor child abuse, and as such it should be treated seriously and not dismissed as "living the dream" or some form of sexual education.

Where did I say child abuse leads to faster maturing Oo?

It is just that we have better food these days and evolve to be physically and in the end mentally more mature in less time.

 

[James Crook]

I do not see what's wrong here: a startling young chap having some good ol' shagging with another teenager that's just a little older than him. We should give the kid a medal.
The only crime here is sticking a babysitter to a 14 year old boy, which is just preposterous.
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All joking aside now, why couldn't the girl wait until he's legal? She'd just have to wait 2-4 years FFS! >_>
EDIT: The "providing alcohol to a minor" thing is unacceptable though. Why'd she have to do THAT? Because of that, she's gonna lose a lot of points during the audience. She could've said she was "truly in love" with the boy and probably get away with a softer sentence, too.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

Getting someone drunk to have sex with them when they can not make the correct choice is rape. So she is being charged with raping a minor. Why does her look make any difference? If she was ugly then she gets 20 years but if she is sexy then only 5 months? The thing with this world is that its shouldnt matter if the attacker is female and the victim is a boy. If the roles were swapped and it was a 20 year old man and a 14 year old girl, people here would be screaming for the death penalty. The woman is a rapist and a pedophile. Its that simple.

 

[Hagi]

Except that she wasn't just 19. She was his babysitter. She was in a position of authority. She was in a clear peer position. That changes things.

In the eyes of the parent? Of course. In the eyes of the kid? Hah, not a chance. And who says this whole thing started during a babysetting session anyway?

That's not how it works. Seeing someone as a peer doesn't equal treating someone as a peer. When he knows what to do and feels confident he'll likely treat her without much respect and even less obedience. But peers aren't there for when things are going right, they're there for when things go wrong.

When that babysitter is there and the parents aren't who is that child going to ask his questions to?
Who is that child going to look at when he isn't sure what to do?
When he's in doubt who is he going to look at for confirmation on what is 'normal'?

When that babysitter acts like it's perfectly normal and acceptable for them to have sex then that child is going to copy her. He's going to act tough and pretend it was his own idea but he's still going to look at her when he's unsure to ensure he's doing the right thing.

 

[D0WNT0WN]

"Male babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old girl.": Instant Jail and Shunned From Society.
"Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.": The only crime is that it wasnt caught on tape.

Holy Hell that wonderful double standard.
(Why does a 14 year-old need a baby sitter anyway?)

 

[Pearwood]

I do feel sorry for her but I think that's more to do with the age than her gender. Clearly she's not a paedophile, she just has terrible judgement, but it looks like she'll be facing sex offender registration nonetheless.

"Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.": The only crime is that it wasnt caught on tape.

I think if it was caught on tape my sympathy for her would disappear pretty quickly... female child abusers are shunned just as much as male ones.

 

[Hagi]

Where did I say child abuse leads to faster maturing Oo?

It is just that we have better food these days and evolve to be physically and in the end mentally more mature in less time.

You do realize that the ages at which people lose their virginity, finish their education, get a job, have children, get married, retire etc. are only going up?

As people grow older and our society gets more advanced childhood is lasting longer and longer. Where previously children as early as twelve got married, had jobs and even got children all of these things now often happen after 25 or even over 30.

And as we learn more and more about psychology and the human brain we realize that there are brain regions which do not fully mature until 30 and that until the end of puberty there's an insane amount of change and development going on in our brains. We learn that those parts of the brain that deal with responsibility, conscience and long-term consequences do not fully mature and function until after 20 years.

We're not getting mentally mature faster. On the contrary, we're only starting to realize how long it takes for people to become fully mentally mature.