People who don't put any personal thought into a situation, instead hiding behind things like rules, law, religion and similar. Oh and those people who call others "slut" for having sex.Blitzwing said:What do you mean one of those people?Vrach said:Oh, you're one of those people >.>Blitzwing said:It doesn?t really matter what your opinion is that slut still committed a crime and must be punished same as any other criminal.Vrach said:Thanks for telling me what I already know, it doesn't change the fact that I don't see it as a crime or something at all bad. If she got him drunk/incapacitated or otherwise raped him, it'd be wrong, yes, but I am of the opinion that a 14 year old human being has more than enough reason in them to make a decision of whether or not they wanna have sex.Blitzwing said:The crime was statutory rape the boy was 14 and thus under the age of consent.Vrach said:Consentual sex, no crime here as far as I can see. No, not saying it because she's hot and not saying it because the younger person is a male. I know girls who've had sex at that age with a guy who was 19, big whoop, they both wanted it, it's their choice.
It doesn't change the fact that children mature faster, having sex later comes due to education and social background.Hagi said:You do realize that the ages at which people lose their virginity, finish their education, get a job, have children, get married, retire etc. are only going up?bakan said:Where did I say child abuse leads to faster maturing Oo?
It is just that we have better food these days and evolve to be physically and in the end mentally more mature in less time.
As people grow older and our society gets more advanced childhood is lasting longer and longer. Where previously children as early as twelve got married, had jobs and even got children all of these things now often happen after 25 or even over 30.
And as we learn more and more about psychology and the human brain we realize that there are brain regions which do not fully mature until 30 and that until the end of puberty there's an insane amount of change and development going on in our brains. We learn that those parts of the brain that deal with responsibility, conscience and long-term consequences do not fully mature and function until after 20 years.
We're not getting mentally mature faster. On the contrary, we're only starting to realize how long it takes for people to become fully mentally mature.
I don't agree with calling the girl a "slut" (I think that word should be abolished) but here's the thing, she broke laws, law-breakers get punished. That's how it works, and that's how it's gonna have to work here.Vrach said:People who don't put any personal thought into a situation, instead hiding behind things like rules, law, religion and similar. Oh and those people who call others "slut" for having sex.Blitzwing said:What do you mean one of those people?Vrach said:Oh, you're one of those people >.>Blitzwing said:It doesn?t really matter what your opinion is that slut still committed a crime and must be punished same as any other criminal.Vrach said:Thanks for telling me what I already know, it doesn't change the fact that I don't see it as a crime or something at all bad. If she got him drunk/incapacitated or otherwise raped him, it'd be wrong, yes, but I am of the opinion that a 14 year old human being has more than enough reason in them to make a decision of whether or not they wanna have sex.Blitzwing said:The crime was statutory rape the boy was 14 and thus under the age of consent.Vrach said:Consentual sex, no crime here as far as I can see. No, not saying it because she's hot and not saying it because the younger person is a male. I know girls who've had sex at that age with a guy who was 19, big whoop, they both wanted it, it's their choice.
God you ruined it. If he didn't look like a baby then it would be acceptable. But she obviously has some sorta weird...fetish i guess? not sure what the right term would be. As a 15 year old if that girl wanted to bone it would be different im 5' 10", 200 pounds. I dont look 13 I look 16.Dags90 said:Go directly to jail[footnote]After the trial, of course[/footnote]. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Bonus of sex offender registry from community chest.
This is what a fourteen year old boy looks like (Not the one from this case, from another):
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/06/11/image5082228x.jpg
Do you honestly think 20 year olds of any sex should be fucking that?
Yeah i think in these situations it should be the kids choice to press charges not the parents. You can't really say that he didn't know what was going on. This had been going on for a few months as the article states. And if I was a 14 year old with that baby sitter I'd of been fapping to her a long time ago. On the Duck Face though she seemed to not 100% it so i feel its more acceptable. Looks more like she was clenching her mouth together as to not smile haha.EdwardOrchard said:Remember back when there was another case of female teachers having sex with male students coming out every other week? As horrible as it was, the test for guilty or not guilty really did come down to, is she hot or not? Some sort of double standard 'Can't rape the willing' thing. Which, unfortunately, makes perfect sense to me.
If the kid really is pressing charges himself, then, well, ya, rape is rape. But from the sounds of it, it isn't the kid pressing charges.
The story just has weird all over it though, so I can't really form a proper opinion on it. However, I did vote that she should be executed. Mostly for making that stupid duckface while taking a picture of herself in front of a mirror, I mean, come on...people still do that?
Personal beliefs like overzealous relgious nuts have?Blitzwing said:I have personnel beliefs. I believe that when you do wrong (and what she did is wrong) you must face the consequences. And I don't think she's a slut because she had sex I think she's a slut because she had sex with a 14 year old boy.Vrach said:People who don't put any personal thought into a situation, instead hiding behind things like rules, law, religion and similar. Oh and those people who call others "slut" for having sex.Blitzwing said:What do you mean one of those people?Vrach said:Oh, you're one of those people >.>Blitzwing said:It doesn?t really matter what your opinion is that slut still committed a crime and must be punished same as any other criminal.Vrach said:Thanks for telling me what I already know, it doesn't change the fact that I don't see it as a crime or something at all bad. If she got him drunk/incapacitated or otherwise raped him, it'd be wrong, yes, but I am of the opinion that a 14 year old human being has more than enough reason in them to make a decision of whether or not they wanna have sex.Blitzwing said:The crime was statutory rape the boy was 14 and thus under the age of consent.Vrach said:Consentual sex, no crime here as far as I can see. No, not saying it because she's hot and not saying it because the younger person is a male. I know girls who've had sex at that age with a guy who was 19, big whoop, they both wanted it, it's their choice.
Forgetting the whole sex thing, she still provided him with alchohol, so I think the parents were in their rights to report her (like how someone might report their friends drug dealer.)Mr. Google said:Yeah i think in these situations it should be the kids choice to press charges not the parents.EdwardOrchard said:Remember back when there was another case of female teachers having sex with male students coming out every other week? As horrible as it was, the test for guilty or not guilty really did come down to, is she hot or not? Some sort of double standard 'Can't rape the willing' thing. Which, unfortunately, makes perfect sense to me.
If the kid really is pressing charges himself, then, well, ya, rape is rape. But from the sounds of it, it isn't the kid pressing charges.
The story just has weird all over it though, so I can't really form a proper opinion on it. However, I did vote that she should be executed. Mostly for making that stupid duckface while taking a picture of herself in front of a mirror, I mean, come on...people still do that?
Can there be a revised Godwin's Law about accusing someone of being a religious zealot?bakan said:Personal beliefs like overzealous relgious nuts have?Blitzwing said:I have personnel beliefs. I believe that when you do wrong (and what she did is wrong) you must face the consequences. And I don't think she's a slut because she had sex I think she's a slut because she had sex with a 14 year old boy.Vrach said:People who don't put any personal thought into a situation, instead hiding behind things like rules, law, religion and similar. Oh and those people who call others "slut" for having sex.Blitzwing said:What do you mean one of those people?Vrach said:Oh, you're one of those people >.>Blitzwing said:It doesn?t really matter what your opinion is that slut still committed a crime and must be punished same as any other criminal.Vrach said:Thanks for telling me what I already know, it doesn't change the fact that I don't see it as a crime or something at all bad. If she got him drunk/incapacitated or otherwise raped him, it'd be wrong, yes, but I am of the opinion that a 14 year old human being has more than enough reason in them to make a decision of whether or not they wanna have sex.Blitzwing said:The crime was statutory rape the boy was 14 and thus under the age of consent.Vrach said:Consentual sex, no crime here as far as I can see. No, not saying it because she's hot and not saying it because the younger person is a male. I know girls who've had sex at that age with a guy who was 19, big whoop, they both wanted it, it's their choice.
Every transgression has to be seen in context that's why law is more like a guide line which can be changed.
Yeah I can agree with that. Getting the kid drunk is a no-no that the parents had every right to press charges on.orangeban said:Forgetting the whole sex thing, she still provided him with alchohol, so I think the parents were in their rights to report her (like how someone might report their friends drug dealer.)