Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

[kickassfrog]

This depends on whether the boy wanted her to or not. If not, it's rape, and illegal. If it's a yes then depending on the age of the babysitter it's either illegal or not.

Also on a more immature note, Where the hell where babysitters like this when I was fourteen!

The fact that it seems to have gone on for several months probably means he's cool with it.

And god damn, I wish I was in that kid's place

That may be true that he didn't mind, but the law still doesn't allow it. There have been kids that spend all their lives going along with it.

And kickass is wrong, even if the babysitter was 15 there is a good chance it would be illegal in most places because of their roll as babysitter.

I know it's illegal, but not in that it's rape- it's statutory rape, which I think is different. I'm not entirely sure though

 

[Himmelgeher]

I'm appalled at the number or "GUIZ LAIK SECKS!" posts here. Yes, we like sex. Your point being? The girl is damn fine and there probably isn't a straight guy here who wouldn't have slept with her at 14, hell, I'd sleep with her now, despite knowing she's a rapist. Because, generally speaking, a guys two main qualifiers for a sexual partner are
1) Is she hot?
2) Seriously, is she hot?
This all stems from the belief that men can't be raped, or that if you "enjoy" it, then it isn't rape (TV Tropes FTW!). Yes, this is rape, because he was 14, and therefore incapable of consenting to sex with an adult. While I have no problem with teenagers sleeping with each other (as long as they're not idiots and do something stupid like get pregnant), this is an adult having sex with someone who is effectively a child (and no, I don't give two fucks about "hebephellia," it's the same damn thing). Could some 14 year old males have made that kind of qualified judgement? Certainly. But the law isn't about what "some" people can do. "Some" people can survive falling off of a 7 story building. That doesn't give you the right to push anyone you damn well please off of a roof. My brother did the same thing to a girl (2 years under the age of consent, which made here 16 where he lived) and I kind of hate him for it. The two of them don't magically have better judgement than anyone else in this situation just because she happens to be extremely fuckable.

Edit: Also, WHY DOES HE HAVE A BABYSITTER?! He's 14! Seriously, what the fuck?

 

[owen4evr]

Pedo is a pedo if she's an adult he's a kid it's pedophile.

 

[AnarchistFish]

Yes, this is rape, because he was 14, and therefore incapable of consenting to sex with an adult.

I still have a problem with this statement. According to the law, yes. But the law isn't black and white.

 

[Himmelgeher]

Yes, this is rape, because he was 14, and therefore incapable of consenting to sex with an adult.

I still have a problem with this statement. According to the law, yes. But the law isn't black and white.

He's 14 and she's 20. A six year age gap is creepy enough when both parties are of age. He cannot make that kind of qualified judgement. I don't care if he's so smart he makes Stephen Hawking look like a bumbling retard. Maybe it would be all right if she was a few years younger, but she isn't. Looking back at when I was 14, I was a completely different person, and despite being mature for my age, I was still very immature. And that was only four years ago. Hell, looking back at when I was 17, I can tell you I've grown a lot. I imagine that process will continue for some time. That's a six year age gap in a time during someone's life that they change more in six months than they will in ten years as an adult. I'm not saying that the age of consent is absolute, or that a 19 year old sleeping with a 17 year old deserves to get lynched, but in this instance, and others similar to it, it is rape.

 

[silasbufu]

Can I have her number? >_>

 

[Sebster 105]

When I was young my babysitter was a lesbian so

 

[AmaterasuGrim]

I see no problem with this IF she hadn't gotten the kid drunk if they had sex sober/consented I'd have no issue with it but since it wasn't jail her!

 

[Knight Captain Kerr]

She is a pedophile, send her to jail.
Offtopic: 16 is the age of consent here.

 

[Treblaine]

Charge and convict... but judge should use discretion on a shorter sentence. Considering how this is quite a benign crime.

Agreed.

At 14 I'd have tried to sleep with her, but that's why there's a law, 14 year olds are stupid/naive.

I don't care how attractive she is, she shouldn't have slept with him. If it'd been his girlfriend who was one year older than him and they were on either side of the legal age of consent, it'd be a different story.

You can't be allowing people to sleep with minors. Regardless of gender.

What if the kid is actually a homosexual, would this change your opinion of the case?

What if he were straight and it'd been a man?

What if it'd been a priest?

You can't just allow people to abuse children because you think the child wanted it. It's not a case by case basis of how hot they are.

What if she was a terrorist?

What if she is a communist spy?

What if she is a witch?

What if she murdered the boy?

What if she cannibalised his corpse?

(1) no evidence any of these are the case
(2) if it was different: it would be different. DUH! The point is it isn't.

You can's say because 'A is related to B' then that 'A is B'.

This is a case of inappropriate and unhealthy relations that should not be allowed but don't try to equate this with priests who forcibly rape children.

She deserves to be punished but not even close to as severely as the worst child rapist.

It should be a case-by-case basis of harm done. Was the teenager harmed by deciding (with their limited capacity) to sleep with another teenager only 5 years older? Probably not that much, it's quite an imbalanced relationship that cannot go on.

I hope people aren't calling for her head in some misguided sense of gender and age equality, as if a teenage girl is the same as a middle aged man in the context of sexual relations with an underage teenager.

 

[Incomer]

When I was young my babysitter was a lesbian so

Well she could bring her friend over ^^
And dude, 6 years is OK, I dont see any kind of moral dilemma should I date 6 years older lady .]

 

[Sebster 105]

Well she could bring her friend over ^^

She did.

 

[Treblaine]

Why does a 14 year old need to be babysat?

And this was my fantasy when I was 14.

Old enough to look after themselves alone... yet so immature they cannot have ANY sexual relations without being horribly manipulated.

Hmm, what state is this. Connecticut.

http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/Boys-14-and-16-charged-with-murder-in-Covington-1443425.php

The state of Connecticut simultaneously hold a 14 year old responsible enough to kill and send them to prison, yet totally incapable of consenting to sex.

The horrific irony is those young boys will most likely be raped in the US prison system that shows an appalling indifference to teenagers begin raped there. Oh, but those kids accused of murder, they're black. I wonder if that makes a difference?

Chappelle lays it on thick.

got to 4:30

What kind of world thinks 14 year olds are too immature to consent to sex yet old enough for long jail terms.

 

[Treblaine]

Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Bonus of sex offender registry from community chest.

This is what a fourteen year old boy looks like (Not the one from this case, from another):

Do you honestly think 20 year olds of any sex should be fucking that?

Do you not realise the monumental irony of showing how young a 14 year old boy is... with the picture of a 14 year old boy BEING TRIED AS AN ADULT!!

You realise how endemic rape is in the US prison system and how the youngest men/boys are targeted, that boy is likely going to be put in a place where he is extremely likely to be raped.

Do you honestly think 14 year olds should be sent to jail for any crime?

The law has a blatant double standard.

-Unequivocal immature innocence on one hand
-Unequivocal mature guilt on the other hand

 

[Treblaine]

Here is an interesting quote:

"It appears that adolescents, at least by age 14, are comparable to adults in their ability to understand and consider options, weigh pros and cons, make purposeful choices, and defend those choices (Weithorn & Campbell, 1982)"

http://education.ucsb.edu/jimerson/adolescenceissues/ADadulttrial.html

This is in the context of adolescents being charged with murder, but if they are as good as adults in making decisions on matters of mortality, surely they should be as good as adults on matters of sexuality?

 

[StBishop]

Charge and convict... but judge should use discretion on a shorter sentence. Considering how this is quite a benign crime.

-snip-

What if she was a terrorist?

What if she is a communist spy?

What if she is a witch?

What if she murdered the boy?

What if she cannibalised his corpse?

(1) no evidence any of these are the case
(2) if it was different: it would be different. DUH! The point is it isn't.

You can's say because 'A is related to B' then that 'A is B'.

This is a case of inappropriate and unhealthy relations that should not be allowed but don't try to equate this with priests who forcibly rape children.

She deserves to be punished but not even close to as severely as the worst child rapist.

It should be a case-by-case basis of harm done. Was the teenager harmed by deciding (with their limited capacity) to sleep with another teenager only 5 years older? Probably not that much, it's quite an imbalanced relationship that cannot go on.

I hope people aren't calling for her head in some misguided sense of gender and age equality, as if a teenage girl is the same as a middle aged man in the context of sexual relations with an underage teenager.

Obviously I realise this. However a fucktonne of replies were saying things like "what's the big deal? She's hot."

I was directing my post at those type of comments.

 

[Username Redacted]

I guess no one realizes that the age of consent was anywhere from 7 to 12 less then a hundred years ago. Granted anywhere from 7 to 12 is too young but 14 is about the time males hit puberity so the current age of consent really needs to taken down from where it is. Its a complete joke to prosecute anyone who has sex with older teens. As mentioned before it was only a hundred years ago that the age of consent was changed... so for the other 2000+ years before mankind has been made up of pedophiles? Also in most parts of Mexico the age of consent is currently 12 years old... so is Mexico full of pedophiles? Its also retarded to when people go "OMG THEY HAD SEX! PEDOBEAR ALERT!" and have people registered as a sex offender with jail time when its CONSENTUAL. I mean really what do people expect. Most advertisements use the motto "sex sales" so when children are consistanally shown that sex is good or fun or anything for that matter how can anyone think they won't do it when no one who will condemn then isn't around? *Flameshield ON* Now before anyone starts with anything a little background info on me is I started having sex on my 15th birthday so barely older then the lucky kid mentioned in the article. After about a year or so I got reckless and 9 months later had my first son at 17 (neeeeeeeeever believe a girl when she says shes on the pill >< ). Anyways I'm currently 22 with 2 amazing sons. All I'm saying is no one should be punished for doing something with someone they care about... or I guess even with someone they don't as long as its CONSENTUAL. I personally think 14 is fine for consent 99% of the time... but 40 year olds with 14 year olds is just creepy.

Ok, so we should base the age of consent based on when kids are hitting puberty these days? Or should it be on a case by case basis, i.e. someone has hit puberty ergo they are able to give consent. If you actually think that might be a good idea then I recommend that you steel your nerves, Google 'Precocious Puberty', and then think about how stupid an idea something like that is. Just because anecdotally you've managed all right doesn't mean that overall a six year difference between a minor and an adult is more often than not going to work out poorly.

 

[Lord_Nemesis]

I've REALLY came late to this topic so it's all been said but still I@ll add my voice to the countless others.

That kid derserves WAY more than a medal. This lad will be legend for the next few years and I can bet every penny I have that he will be sitting somehwree with a smug smile with something going through his head like "Oh yeah, I am too fuckin awesome".

Well played young sir, well played.

 

[szs0061]

admittedly i did vote no jail but after reading someone making the point that had it been a 20 year old guy and 14 year old girl all hell would have broken loose i have agree jail is probably fitting if for no other reason than equality's sake, also hot damn give that kid a medal she is hot