Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

[Torrasque]

Jail is overkill imo, she should just get a bit of help and go meet some boys her own age.
Honestly, the shame of screwing a 14 year old will probably follow her for a while.

Yep... bascially this

Sorry but In my opinion the age discrepancy is too great. That qualifies as statutory rape... That means jail time and sex offender registration.... Atractiveness of the individual has no legal precedence. WHAT SO EVER.

What =|
I said "jail is overkill" meaning that it is completely over the top, way overboard, unnecessary, etc.

Yes, sending a rapist to jail is an overkill.

In fact sending anyone in jail is an overkill, let's just slap murderers on the hand and be done with it.

lol, then you missed my other post. Surprise surprise.
If you'd read the article, and other articles done by other news sources, you'd realize that the circumstances in this situation are much more complicated than "she got a kid drunk and fucked him".
Yes, it could still be classified as rape, but the thing that I consider worst about this article, is she got him drunk, and she's 20 to his 14.
It could still be classified as consensual sex, but he's much too young, so it'd be rape.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

I realize a few things about the post I'm about to make. I know it makes me a horrible person, I know the image has probably been put up by about a million other people. Still, I have to do it anyway.

Hooray for double standards.

 

[Coranico]

I'm sure i've been ninja'd on this by now so i'm not even going to bother putting much effort into it.

[INSERT SOUTH PARK "nice..." IMAGE HERE]

OT: It's illegal and she should go to jail for it. I wish things were done that simply.

It isn't that simple. The law is there to hold something else in place, it isn't a moral in itself.

Which is why i said i WISHED it were done more simply, tis why we will one day be taken over by our robot overlords, they have no moral code, they are relentless in their persecution.

But in this case, she should go to jail, it was sexual assault and statutory rape i see no reason why that shouldn't be punishable. Even if the kid did want it, that doesn't make it any less wrong.

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

All "Where was she when I was 14" aside...

Which makes me ask the question.. WHERE WAS SHE WHEN I WAS 14?!!!!

Guys, this is just F-ing dumb. In case you have forgotten, let me remind you about male versus anatomy.

If you're a female and you are about to have sex, you have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case you get moist and it feels nice.
2. You don't want it, in which case it hurts like crap, but it's still gonna happen and we call it rape.

If you're a male and you are about to do sex (that's right, male DO, not HAVE sex), you also have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case your willi gets big and hard and you can have sex
2. You don't want it, in which case you DON'T bloody have sex.

It's physically impossible for a woman to rape a guy (except in weird situations which I won't get into right now, but let's just say there's a dildo involved and the girl needs to be crazy strong or have you drugged and tied...)

She should just be laughed at for needing to show her tits to a 14 year old, not sent to jail...

You can be physically aroused when you don't want to be. A man can be raped. A woman being raped will eventually produce lube. There are parts of the body that will work when stimulated right. Please don't spread false information as fact.

 

[TheHighDino]

As a 14yr old guy I thought I'd look at this outta interest... Then I saw the girl and am now extremely jealous of that lucky 14yr old douche... >_<

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

If it was the other way around then sure but in this case a fine would be more appropriate.

Why should she be given a lesser punishment just because of her gender?

because if the genders were flipped in this situation, the 14 year old girl is a lot less likely to give consent to a 19 year old man. It`s just a whole lot more likely a situation where if a man was the offender he forced the underage girl to do it. At 14 you as a boy not looking for girls your age unless they have "develop" much faster than the other girls. Any 14 year old straight boy would have had sex with a good looking 19 year female babysitter without the need to be liqoured up. This is a fact. I know I would have. I know all my male friends would have. At 14 you also know what statutory rape is unless Sex Ed and your parents are incompetent. So it's not like this 14 year old boy didn't know that there was laws against this.

 

[geldonyetich]

This seems like quite the tragedy to me: Why do I miss out on the hot horny 20-year olds before they throw themselves at 14-year-olds to slate their lust?

But seriously, she's probably a bit mental to hook up with a 14-year-old boy. If you're hitting on somebody that young, you don't want a relationship, you want someone naive enough to control while you exploit them. Not exactly what I'd call primo girlfriend material.

 

[dertyqwerty]

They say he was mature for his age.

Then answer me this: If this were about a 20 year old male having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old girl, would she be seen more as a victim of abuse or "mature of her age?"

Check this: Men have penises and women have vaginas. Men and women are different, especially mentally. Clearly, that's not good for a young woman, but IMO and as a man, I think a young man can handle that.

Prove if and how it has affected the boy negatively and maybe I'll change my mind? If you can't, my mind won't change.

Keep in mind, safe sex isn't the issue here so STDs and babies are not relevant. Obvi, he should be wearing rubbers.

I actually think that this experience will affect that boy negatively. Extremely so.
He has a girlfriend who he probably thinks is freaking awesome because she's older. He has feelings for her and everything is going fine and they decide to take it to the next level. He's okay with having sex, but his parent's aren't. Now his girlfriend could be facing prison, becoming a registered sex offender, not to mention extreme humiliation because of the media. And the entire world is telling him that he was a victim, and that his girlfriend is a monster and a pedophile. This may ruin sex and relationships for that kid forever.

 

[ks1234]

All "Where was she when I was 14" aside...

Which makes me ask the question.. WHERE WAS SHE WHEN I WAS 14?!!!!

Guys, this is just F-ing dumb. In case you have forgotten, let me remind you about male versus anatomy.

If you're a female and you are about to have sex, you have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case you get moist and it feels nice.
2. You don't want it, in which case it hurts like crap, but it's still gonna happen and we call it rape.

If you're a male and you are about to do sex (that's right, male DO, not HAVE sex), you also have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case your willi gets big and hard and you can have sex
2. You don't want it, in which case you DON'T bloody have sex.

It's physically impossible for a woman to rape a guy (except in weird situations which I won't get into right now, but let's just say there's a dildo involved and the girl needs to be crazy strong or have you drugged and tied...)

She should just be laughed at for needing to show her tits to a 14 year old, not sent to jail...

You can be physically aroused when you don't want to be. A man can be raped. A woman being raped will eventually produce lube. There are parts of the body that will work when stimulated right. Please don't spread false information as fact.

Listen ... me being a completely heterosexual male, let me tell ya... I have been in a couple of situations with different women where I didn't want it but I decided to take one for the team and 'do it' anyway... guess what, my johnson wouldn't work... Point being, it's next to impossible to rape a guy, so, yeah... that chick is FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE and that is one lucky 14 year old bastard. lol.

 

[SilentCom]

The ***** needs some good jail time. She knew the boundaries and she over-stepped them. She was entrusted to babysit and instead she went against that trust and against law. She was to babysit and instead she gets a minor drunk then proceeded to have sex with that said minor.

She shouldn't be going to rehab, she just needs some time to think about what she's done in jail.

 

[ph0b0s123]

Still shocked how may voted for execution. I am so hoping it was a joke vote.

How can this be argued. The whole point of capital punishment comes from the Bible's eye for an eye. Though I always thought this was dumb as for a multiple murder, you can only kill them once, so it does not equate. But how can murder be an eye for an eye for rape. The most you could argue for (though just as barbaric), is that the person is raped by someone much older than them, if you believe this was rape.

I get it, you think rape and child rape is the worst crime out there, but the same or worse than murder (to me the worst crime)? So it should have the same punishment as murder? No way. Eye for an eye, means eye for an eye and no worse. Do your lynch mobbing elsewhere.

 

[Adamc-mh]

This whole story just reminds me of the south park episode were the teacher starts to date Kyle's little brothers and all the males reactions are 'ohhh nice' but yeah its's wrong and she should be treated the same if it were a man instead regardless, but you just have to wonder if it was forced or not.

 

[TheDooD]

SNIP

all that i am going to express right now is about this particular case... or any case involving a 14 year old boy with an older female, scratch that, any case involving a boy that knows about sex and wants to experience it (as in this case, 14 seems like a reasonable age for him to want to have sex)

there is one critical flaw with your idea, "coitus" or "penetration" of anyone (male or female) can be traumatizing if it is without consent, "rape" as it is more commonly refereed is a horrible thing because one is using the other to satiate its sexual urges by invading his/her body, sticking things inside someone else

now, for a male that already wants to have sex being sexually abused is hard, and most males will always feel desire for certain stimulations, he might get out of the whole experience a little perverted, might pick a few kinks like enjoying older women or liking some S&M, but thats about the mental distress he can suffer, he can still function as a whole human being and be an integral part of society, yes there have being cases where kids are traumatized but those cases are from kids that didn't knew what they were doing and couldn't understand what was happening

and this seems like its not the case

http://www.wwu.edu/chw/preventionandwellness/vp_casas_res_mv.shtml

this article explains it really well, but as you can see in the last myth

Myth #7 - If the perpetrator is female, the boy or adolescent should consider himself fortunate to have been initiated into heterosexual activity.

In reality, premature or coerced sex, whether by a mother, aunt, older sister, baby-sitter or other female in a position of power over a boy, causes confusion at best, and rage, depression or other problems in more negative circumstances. To be used as a sexual object by a more powerful person, male or female, is abusive and damaging.

as was stated in the original post, this was not the case

Another site said they were in a sexual relationship for several months, and his mom was the one who reported her. This almost definitely means that she didn't use the alcohol to force him into sex, and that they were both consenting.

so there is no harm done, hell, if the girl was 15 this would be a different story...

I really like how you broke it down. The funny thing morality, laws and plain old ignorance blind people from this.

 

[ctrl]

well this depends. if the boy and child minder (i refuse to use "baby" he's 14) consented and the parents reported her then who cares, the parents should take better care if there really that upset.

but if the boy didn't consent and it was fuelled by alcohol....then she deserves the shit she's in

 

[Mr Nacroe]

I can't help it but I think the kid should get a medal. Age 14 and gettin' it on with an attractive woman. Also she felt the need to give him booze. Shows that she was worried about acceptance from him. That is pretty awsome.

 

[ctrl]

oh yeah, hur hur hur medal

 

[jawakiller]

Yeah, that kid is my new hero.

Fucked his babysitter at fourteen. Yep that is alright in my book. I would probably kill my mother (if she reported it). Thats the really fucked up thing in this story. Cockblocking your son is prolly the most deranged thing a parent can do (if you're banging a hot chick that is).

This just made me depressed.

 

[cobra_ky]

in this thread, horny teenage boys trivialize hebephilia.

 

[TheMadPunter]

They say he was mature for his age.

Then answer me this: If this were about a 20 year old male having a sexual relationship with a 14 year old girl, would she be seen more as a victim of abuse or "mature of her age?"

Check this: Men have penises and women have vaginas. Men and women are different, especially mentally. Clearly, that's not good for a young woman, but IMO and as a man, I think a young man can handle that.

Prove if and how it has affected the boy negatively and maybe I'll change my mind? If you can't, my mind won't change.

Keep in mind, safe sex isn't the issue here so STDs and babies are not relevant. Obvi, he should be wearing rubbers.

I actually think that this experience will affect that boy negatively. Extremely so.
He has a girlfriend who he probably thinks is freaking awesome because she's older. He has feelings for her and everything is going fine and they decide to take it to the next level. He's okay with having sex, but his parent's aren't. Now his girlfriend could be facing prison, becoming a registered sex offender, not to mention extreme humiliation because of the media. And the entire world is telling him that he was a victim, and that his girlfriend is a monster and a pedophile. This may ruin sex and relationships for that kid forever.

We still lack many crucial details in this case, but that said, here's my take. I agree that this may negatively affect him, and there is no dearth of psychological research on the subject, but it is interesting to note the following: according to you, the "experience" that is causing the trauma is actually not the sex itself or the relationship, but the societal backlash. You posit that "everything is going fine" but his parents have a problem, and the legal system has a problem. Thus the trauma, if it exists, is caused by his girlfriend being dragged through the mud, and people telling him he's a victim and should be feeling violated. This, of course, becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: American society freaking out, saying this is wrong and evil, is in fact causing the very trauma it is bemoaning.

As several people here have said, this would be a non-issue in many European countries, because they just have different views on sex and consent. American lawmakers say 14 is too young to make such decisions responsibly, and perhaps they're right, but it is important to examine the scientific basis on which the consent laws were determined, and reconsider those laws if necessary. My contention is if Americans weren't so sexually repressed, many of these problems would disappear. Sex itself is not the biggest problem; rather, the biggest problem is the confusion, the shame, the guilt, the being told you're a deviant, an abomination, a freak. The problem is society saying your feelings and desires are morally reprehensible - and why? Because mainstream social norms are built on archaic principles of morality, principles which even now go largely unquestioned. That's it. It's time to grow up. Encouraging comprehensive sexual education and open discussion about sex is the solution. Remove the mystery, the stigma, the guilt, and the arbitrary moralizing. Replace it with information, understanding, acceptance, and love. People should be free to make their own personal decisions - remember those? All you Americans who claim to love freedom - it's time to put your money where your mouth is.