Poll: Flood (Halo), Replicators (Stargate), or the Borg (Star Trek)?

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Kais86

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Hey, I like Halo and Star Trek but neither of them have proven to be as mean as the Stargate humans, if you want the humans who would win this with the least effort I would probably have to say Macross once they got their population rebuilt a little, because they are absolutely vicious in a fight.

The first thing the Tau'ri (stargate humans) did when they found out their enemies had easily accessed teleportation devices was to use them to deliver bombs (Stargate, 1994) next when they realized their enemies wore heavy armor they switched to armor piercing rounds (Stargate SG-1 season 1 episode 2) in season 7 the Kull warriors appeared proving to be basically indestructible, it took the Stargate personnel 6 whole episodes, including the 2 parter they were introduced in, to figure out a way around them, and then they took precautions in case the Kull warriors ever modified their shielding, by creating a better version of their first weapon. While the Star Trek humans are still fighting it out with the borg and the Halo humans developed as quickly as they could but it wasn't enough and took the Covenant's head Prophet decision to replace the Elites (or carry the idiot ball for a day, however you like to look at it) with the Brutes to save the humans.

From the point in time you are suggesting, given how slow the Flood are the humans will have time to get where they need, the borg would be a minor threat and only outside the Milky Way, as the Tau'ri still have access to the Ancient weapon which destroyed the replicators, and at this point have ship mounted variants of it, which would mean that a lot of borg crews would be waking up as people on board ships that don't work right anymore. The Federation wouldn't quite know what to do with a second Earth appearing but would appreciate the help of incredibly powerful allies and the humans from Halo would still be licking their wounds from Halo 3 as they were in no condition to win a fight with anything at the end of that. 50 years later during the events of the John-117 monument they would be ready to fight some more, but the humans in Halo 3 were exhausted and could really use the break and aid provided by the Federation and the Tau'ri. The Tau'ri would make extensive use of the replication machines the Federation has as well as the information possessed by the Halo 3 humans, trade would happen and by their powers combined they would rock the galaxy, not the Flood, the Borg, the(now dead)Covenant, the Ori, or anyone would be able to beat them, although they still would have been curb-stomped by the Ori when they first engaged in ship to ship combat.
 

Eipok Kruden

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Kais86 said:
Hey, I like Halo and Star Trek but neither of them have proven to be as mean as the Stargate humans, if you want the humans who would win this with the least effort I would probably have to say Macross once they got their population rebuilt a little, because they are absolutely vicious in a fight.

The first thing the Tau'ri (stargate humans) did when they found out their enemies had easily accessed teleportation devices was to use them to deliver bombs (Stargate, 1994) next when they realized their enemies wore heavy armor they switched to armor piercing rounds (Stargate SG-1 season 1 episode 2) in season 7 the Kull warriors appeared proving to be basically indestructible, it took the Stargate personnel 6 whole episodes, including the 2 parter they were introduced in, to figure out a way around them, and then they took precautions in case the Kull warriors ever modified their shielding, by creating a better version of their first weapon. While the Star Trek humans are still fighting it out with the borg and the Halo humans developed as quickly as they could but it wasn't enough and took the Covenant's head Prophet decision to replace the Elites (or carry the idiot ball for a day, however you like to look at it) with the Brutes to save the humans.

From the point in time you are suggesting, given how slow the Flood are the humans will have time to get where they need, the borg would be a minor threat and only outside the Milky Way, as the Tau'ri still have access to the Ancient weapon which destroyed the replicators, and at this point have ship mounted variants of it, which would mean that a lot of borg crews would be waking up as people on board ships that don't work right anymore. The Federation wouldn't quite know what to do with a second Earth appearing but would appreciate the help of incredibly powerful allies and the humans from Halo would still be licking their wounds from Halo 3 as they were in no condition to win a fight with anything at the end of that. 50 years later during the events of the John-117 monument they would be ready to fight some more, but the humans in Halo 3 were exhausted and could really use the break and aid provided by the Federation and the Tau'ri. The Tau'ri would make extensive use of the replication machines the Federation has as well as the information possessed by the Halo 3 humans, trade would happen and by their powers combined they would rock the galaxy, not the Flood, the Borg, the(now dead)Covenant, the Ori, or anyone would be able to beat them, although they still would have been curb-stomped by the Ori when they first engaged in ship to ship combat.
I'm sorry, but it was my understanding that this poll was trying to find out which is more awesome between the three species. Not which universe is better. I was just trying to establish some sort of balance between the 3 universes. As for the resourcefulness of the different humans, they're all just as resourceful. The Humans in Halo 3 never came across the Goa'uld and never fought Ra. They were never presented with the opportunity to use the rings to teleport a nuke aboard Ra's ship. So your argument is void. But, as I was saying earlier in this post, the argument was void anyway. This is dealing with the 3 species listed in the poll, it is not a "Which universe is better?" thread.
 

Kais86

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The Flood are the headcrabs from Half life only with more flavor added to them, more variants and history. Replicators are the borg sans meat, which they in and of themselves are an entire race of Frankenstein's monster meets ants, set on conquering the galaxy because they feel that since their way is best everyone should share it.

No, not all the humans from those universes are as resourceful as each other otherwise things would be different in those universes.
 

gunluva

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Doubted.

OP's description of the Infection Forms is off. The buggers don't attach to your head, but burrow into the host's chest, pushing the head up and leaving it to dangle. All the sensory organs are therefore located in the chest cavity. If you look at an infected Elite or Marine, you'll see tentacles peeking out of the chest. That's the Infection form nestled in there.

Also, there's only one Ark. And the only portal we know about is at Earth, and can no longer be activated due to the Ark being severely damaged. If the Sentinels continue to function, they'll start repairing it. Eventually the Ark may return to its former glory, but it will take time.
 

Eipok Kruden

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gunluva said:
Doubted.

OP's description of the Infection Forms is off. The buggers don't attach to your head, but burrow into the host's chest, pushing the head up and leaving it to dangle. All the sensory organs are therefore located in the chest cavity. If you look at an infected Elite or Marine, you'll see tentacles peeking out of the chest. That's the Infection form nestled in there.
Well, I said it pushes the host's head back and provides its own sensory organs. And if you'll look at the game, the infection forms do crawl on the heads of dead corpses and jump on the heads of marines.
 

Eipok Kruden

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gunluva said:
Heh. Nope.
Meh. I recorded it in theater and it looked like the floodling attached itself to the corpse's head. Maybe it was directly below the head in the neck, it just looked like the head. I'm not sure. You're probably right though.
 

gunluva

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I certainly hope I am. I'm an obsessor, and a stickler for the details, so I've done my research. After going through a few videos, it still seems like it's going for the chest.
 

Kais86

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The Flood have to be able to tap into your nervous system before they can do anything and they try to remove your head after they've established a good control and mutated at least twice, otherwise Sargeant Johnson would have never made it off the first Halo alive, and the stories written in the books wouldn't have happened the same way either Corporal Jenkins saved countless lives because his flood infection form was strong enough to overtake his mind and nervous system, so that he could convince Lt. Mckay to destroy the ship the humans were on because it was infected with flood. In fact the head falling off is more of a sign that you've been a Flood for awhile, it's not something the Flood do to you directly.
 

keyton777

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Elim Garak said:
keyton777 said:
Eipok Kruden said:
Now you're pushing it. I understand you dislike him, but don't resort to name calling. I was merely joking around, I was not trying to criticize anyone. However, it would seem you are. Do not call him a shithead, I doubt the mods will stand for it. I know I wouldn't if I were them.
i understand what you mean, and yes i dont exactly like him, i apologize to you, and anyone that might have offended
Oh, wow, that's quite civil. I am not used to places where people apologize. Too many flame wars. I would also like to say that I am sorry for getting annoyed, and going all spell nazi.

better to have friends and allies, than enemies over a few tiny problems
 

keyton777

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damn, Flood are at 111 votes, and the Replicators are close behind, but the addition to the thread (Borg with 83 at the time of this post) is catching up, albeit slowly......


i wonder who will win......i voted Flood because of how controller snapping frustraiting it was to fight them on leadgendary, and if you got the skull, mythic
 

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The Borg. When they were first introduced in TNG they were as scary as hell with the music, their presence, the famous quote and all (I was about 8). But their run on Voyager ruin them as a formidable advisory because the crew seem to bump into them every other episode and it became a case of *sigh* 'Oh no not this again'.
"We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. "
Or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKlN2dQm7bw
 

Tich

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I would say Replicators, the Flood have nothing on them. The Borg would be unable to assimilate them as the blocks are a complete component. They couldn't insert the nanites.

Secondly, the replicators have proven very resiliant, assimilating and augmenting any technology they come across. They managed to augment a Goa'uld hyperdrive to that extent it could travel between galaxies. While the drives would be way worse and would take days to travel between distant planets.

Also, since the Borg are made partly of metal, the replicators could just melt it and take the resources to build more of themselves. I can only imagine what the Borg would do if one of their ships were infected.