aoxomoxoa said:
Snake Plissken said:
Anyone who has considered getting an Assassin's Creed tattoo has probably had the idea before, and I'd be willing to bet money on the fact that someone ALREADY did it.
you do realize this applies to almost everything. i dont know a thing about your tattoo and i can safely say its been done before. im also pretty sure that there's a helluva lot less people sporting assassin's creed tats than (yet again) chinese symbols.
OASN, I didnt mention your 100+ hours of work nor did I at any time imply that it included stuff off my list. if you feel your tattoo will go unappreciated you could simply post a picture instead of regurgitating the same shit as if somebody else brought it up. we got it ~~ 100 hours, ALL custom ~~ can we move on?
Snake Plissken said:
If you don't have plans for extensive work that adds to a thriving artistic community, don't do it
This is some ridiculous shit, brother.
Maybe some people don't want to spend 100 hours on a tattoo. Maybe they don't wanna get a tattoo the size of a bed spread or one that can be seen from a fucking mile away. Or maybe they really don't give a shit about the 'thriving artistic community' (which is just a bullshit term for people with better than average drawing skills) ~~ I get the fact youre into tattoos and have a lotta friends working in the field, and I respect that, but don't you for a second think that the majority of people that get tattoos regard the tattooist as an artist or give a shit about their feelings, ideas or integrity.
You pay the guy to draw a damn goat on your forehead and he'll do it cos he loves him some money and thats how the world works.
Your statements baffle me. I'm not sure why, but I seem to have struck some sort of nerve. It was not my intention. Now it is.
Don't get me wrong...you are partially correct in all of your assumptions. You claim to have never seen my tattoos, but can safely assume that they've been done before. It's not true, but you're more than welcome to continuing assuming such things. Have SIMILAR things been done before? Sure...similar. Yet you claim in the same paragraph that you understand it's custom artwork, produced by a single artist and completely unreproducible by another artist, yet you think the artwork on my body has been done prior to me having it? That's not even possible. Your logic doesn't add up.
"Thriving artistic community" is not a bullshit term which means what you think it does. It's not a term at all...it's a phrase. It might have been a little pretentious of me to say, but it is not bullshit. Yes, they draw better than the average person, but artistic ability does not translate to the ability to tattoo. Generally, it takes a couple of years as an apprentice doing really shitty work, both in form and in style.
And yes, chances are if I asked any of my friends to tattoo a goat on my forehead they would do it. It would be a fun experience for them as they would probably never have the chance to do it again. As for your design...well, not so much. Any number of idiots with printers can walk into a shop with the same thing ten times a day because they think it's cool, and chances are they'd all get turned away because it's BORING FOR THE ARTIST. I don't understand why you don't get this. They won't do anything you tell them to, and if they do, they're either apprentices or miserable artists. Congratulations...yours was probably done by one of the two. Any reputable tattoo artist doesn't NEED the 200 dollars or whatever a customer is paying them to do the work. Let me put it this way...
You and I were fighting for the same scheduled spot in the day for a tattoo. I want a goat tattooed on my forehead, and YOU want an unintelligible black mess tattooed in a sensible boring spot like you shoulder blade or calf. The artist will politely apologize to you and send you on your way because there is nothing fun about shitty tattoos for either party. You then offer the artist 50 more dollars in hopes of changing his/her mind. At that point, the artist will then tell you more harshly that your idea is stupid and he would rather do a tattoo that will be fun, creative, and more enjoyed by all.
I know you think this is a ridiculous scenario, but in any shop where reputable artists work, it is COMMON FUCKING PRACTICE. They don't have bosses and they have nobody to answer to. You can't call their manager because you're mad at them and they WILL PURPOSELY try to hurt your feelings and belittle you because you irritate them.
If you'd like to see samples of many of the pieces of work I have done so you can criticize it or whatever it is you plan on doing, feel free. My work is in various places in various portfolios in these three locations.
http://www.myspace.com/mezlove/photos/albums/tattoos/1735551?page=1
http://www.myspace.com/prestonchambers/photos/albums/album/1069063?page=1
http://www.myspace.com/crutchtattoo/photos/albums/tattoos/639734?page=1
Also, if you'd like to continue getting your e-shit ruined, please do it through PM or accept that you might just be wrong on occasion and put me on your ignore list.
If you plan on PMing me, make sure your response is at least 80 percent grammatically correct. I like seeing things like periods and capitalization. I make mistakes too, but when I see a little red line pop up in my text box, I double check it at the very least. Also, please use logic and common sense and perhaps even some personal experience, but don't use ignorant, buzz-word catchphrases like this:
aoxomoxoa said:
You pay the guy to draw a damn goat on your forehead and he'll do it cos he loves him some money and thats how the world works.
It's not funny, it makes you looked like an idiot, and it doesn't make any sense.
