Poll: Gay marriage- your thoughts?

[Gamine]

I have yet to come across a single argument against gay marriage that I find compelling or valid. The vast majority are based on innocent ignorance at best and simple homophobia at worst.

I dont understand the point of it, why are the trying so hard to be Hetero? .

Is there a special benefit to being married or something??

because i dont get this craze for marriage.

They're not trying to be hetero, they're trying to gain equal rights. There are several benefits; from a legal standpoint, the most important difference is tax benefits of a marriage, although there are a number of other issues as well - for instance, in several states, even if a gay person leaves their estate to their partner in their will, since they're not married and thusly not legally a part of the family, the state can appropriate the estate and distribute it to the deceased's relatives.

Ok! only in America and for the money, hmm

Cos where i come from, when you get married, you are on your own

You could marry a lamppost, there are no benefits tied to being married

Everyone is treated the same, now hows that for Equal Rights!

*Single people should start protesting too*

 

[Ago Iterum]

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE FIGHT TO LOSE HALF THEIR SHIT!

on a side note, fucking 57% of all marriages in the united states end in epic failure so yeah let em have it

Lol, yeah. In Britain, the first ever gay marriage ended in the first ever gay divorce.

 

[arcainia]

I have yet to come across a single argument against gay marriage that I find compelling or valid. The vast majority are based on innocent ignorance at best and simple homophobia at worst.

I dont understand the point of it, why are the trying so hard to be Hetero? .

Is there a special benefit to being married or something??

because i dont get this craze for marriage.

They're not trying to be hetero, they're trying to gain equal rights. There are several benefits; from a legal standpoint, the most important difference is tax benefits of a marriage, although there are a number of other issues as well - for instance, in several states, even if a gay person leaves their estate to their partner in their will, since they're not married and thusly not legally a part of the family, the state can appropriate the estate and distribute it to the deceased's relatives.

Ok! only in America and for the money, hmm

Cos where i come from, when you get married, you are on your own

You could marry a lamppost, there are no benefits tied to being married

Everyone is treated the same, now hows that for Equal Rights!

*Single people should start protesting too*

Yeah, um...come back when you start making sense.

 

[RedDiablo]

Despite the fact I'm a Christian, I support Gay Rights. I think they should be able to marry. They are just as human as us.

 

[Gamine]

I have yet to come across a single argument against gay marriage that I find compelling or valid. The vast majority are based on innocent ignorance at best and simple homophobia at worst.

I dont understand the point of it, why are the trying so hard to be Hetero? .

Is there a special benefit to being married or something??

because i dont get this craze for marriage.

They're not trying to be hetero, they're trying to gain equal rights. There are several benefits; from a legal standpoint, the most important difference is tax benefits of a marriage, although there are a number of other issues as well - for instance, in several states, even if a gay person leaves their estate to their partner in their will, since they're not married and thusly not legally a part of the family, the state can appropriate the estate and distribute it to the deceased's relatives.

Ok! only in America and for the money, hmm

Cos where i come from, when you get married, you are on your own

You could marry a lamppost, there are no benefits tied to being married

Everyone is treated the same, now hows that for Equal Rights!

*Single people should start protesting too*

Yeah, um...come back when you start making sense.

Ohh, you think you make sense?

Grow a brain.

 

[Matronadena]

I could really care less.. that is to say nowhere in any form does the idea bother me...

however I stand in a different camp, I am of the lines that think government should have NO say in marriages other than;

A) making sure both of of league ( or consensual) age or status
B)maintain RECORDS of tax and property should a dispute over property ion a failed relation occur.

both these are already done, however the other loopholes, conditions, rewards, and punishments ( being a divorce ca destroy your credit, even if its a very kind, and friendly) and need to be dropped.

Now, I am married, and do have children...And I yes I will say it, do not see gender in my world really, I can find attraction to man or woman based on the person ( not to be confused with being bi)


What I DON'T stand for is the notion that many want to force various faiths to just accept and do gay weddings etc...

Now for starters, Im NOT of any western faith.. or even of a faith really, I'm Soto/Zen Buddhist, which is a philosophy, not a faith or religion.....

However regardless of the flaws I may personally see in a faith, they still have every right to remain true to their design...that is to say forcing a faith or religion to embrace something because it's the new social " hot item" destroys the concept of what a religion or a faith is...

now there are various " spin off" faiths that would welcome such a change, such as Unitarian lineages, Some celt based ones, or many many others (and truth be told anyone who gets ordained through something like the Universal life church can legally marry anyone granted they register with their state)

bottom line is that my stance on who you can or can't marry is a choice that stands between the two individuals, No governing force, nor deity should have much say in the matter.

 

[mokes310]

I don't care really. As long as they don't show me the wedding slides.

I hate when ANY pretentious asshole feels the need to show you every slide, which just so happens to be the same picture taken from 100 different angles, three times over. Seriously, I didn't go to you wedding for a reason, what makes you think that I want to see you stuff cake in each other's faces...however, if they were two good lookin ladies, I might be a bit swayed.

In all seriousness, I'm for it. If anyone want's to get married, let them. If anyone argues that it "violates the sancity of marriage," I pose this little factoid to you: 50% of all marriages in the United States end with divorce. How very holy and sanctified indeed.

Seriously though, I would love to see wedding slides of two lovely ladies!

 

[Good morning blues]

I have yet to come across a single argument against gay marriage that I find compelling or valid. The vast majority are based on innocent ignorance at best and simple homophobia at worst.

I dont understand the point of it, why are the trying so hard to be Hetero? .

Is there a special benefit to being married or something??

because i dont get this craze for marriage.

They're not trying to be hetero, they're trying to gain equal rights. There are several benefits; from a legal standpoint, the most important difference is tax benefits of a marriage, although there are a number of other issues as well - for instance, in several states, even if a gay person leaves their estate to their partner in their will, since they're not married and thusly not legally a part of the family, the state can appropriate the estate and distribute it to the deceased's relatives.

Ok! only in America and for the money, hmm

Cos where i come from, when you get married, you are on your own

You could marry a lamppost, there are no benefits tied to being married

Everyone is treated the same, now hows that for Equal Rights!

*Single people should start protesting too*

Where is "where I come from?" Tax differences for married couples versus single people are not exactly a rare phenomenon.

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

Honestly, if it's not hurting anyone, and it makes them happy, I don't see the problem. I also don't really give a shit if they call it "marriage" or "domestic partnership". Because if both parties get the same rights, then you changing the name of the 'event' is just plain denial.

So long as they don't rub it in my face and try to make me follow them, they can do what they want.

Two questions:

1. When you say "don't rub it in my face", do you mean it like the same way when heterosexual married couples go off after the ceremony in their ribbon clad cars and beep at everyone who go by to 'express' their happiness?

2. How exactly can they get you to 'follow' them...? Are you afraid that with homosexuals getting the same rights as normal married couples they might somehow force you to become gay and then marry some other guy...? Your point is lost to me.

1. No. I'm saying when they go out of their way to show their orientation, as if doing something not usually acceptable by social norm gives them some form of special status.

2. In all truth, that was a stock response to anything particularly controversial, as that is my belief in most cases: Don't shove it under my nose, don't threaten me with a knife for believing otherwise, and you can do whatever you want. I'm not one to tell people what they can and cannot do unless it affects me directly.

 

[RebelRising]

Nearly all the straight married couples I know are miserable, divorced, or creepily uptight. I wouldn't want to wish the same misfortune on gays.

Anyways, denying "marriage" to homosexuals is discrimination, no matter how you look at it, but on the other hand, what's in a name but a name. It's just words. If a union yielded fiscal benefits (because face it, people, that's the only good reason to marry), then I wouldn't worry about the issue too much. Otherwise, it's just a situation determined by mob rule.

 

[Gamine]

I have yet to come across a single argument against gay marriage that I find compelling or valid. The vast majority are based on innocent ignorance at best and simple homophobia at worst.

I dont understand the point of it, why are the trying so hard to be Hetero? .

Is there a special benefit to being married or something??

because i dont get this craze for marriage.

They're not trying to be hetero, they're trying to gain equal rights. There are several benefits; from a legal standpoint, the most important difference is tax benefits of a marriage, although there are a number of other issues as well - for instance, in several states, even if a gay person leaves their estate to their partner in their will, since they're not married and thusly not legally a part of the family, the state can appropriate the estate and distribute it to the deceased's relatives.

Ok! only in America and for the money, hmm

Cos where i come from, when you get married, you are on your own

You could marry a lamppost, there are no benefits tied to being married

Everyone is treated the same, now hows that for Equal Rights!

*Single people should start protesting too*

Where is "where I come from?" Tax differences for married couples versus single people are not exactly a rare phenomenon.

Not everyone is American,Mr Dude.

Theres no Tax difference for Married and Single folks

And even if there is a difference, why should it be? Dont i have a right to be Single??

 

[Hawgh]

EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE FIGHT TO LOSE HALF THEIR SHIT!

on a side note, fucking 57% of all marriages in the united states end in epic failure so yeah let em have it

Lol, yeah. In Britain, the first ever gay marriage ended in the first ever gay divorce.

That's awesome, a two-fer.

 

[muffincakes]

my 2%:
If 2 people love each other, they have every right to get married.
The marriage between 2 gay people will not cause any bad consequences to any individual or society in general
Biblical arguments are irrelevant; separation of church and state means the church does not have control over the state, and vice versa
and if gay marriage somehow offends you: DON'T GET ONE.

I don't see how biblical arguments are irrelevant since marriage comes from religion and the bible. Separation of church and state means the state should have no control over marriage. Obviously it does though(at least over the rights it entails), so gays should be offered the same rights, but since marriage is a religious and biblical thing it should be left with those who are religious.

As a side note, telling heterosexual people not marry a person of their gender because gay marriage offends them seems somehow stupid and irrelevant, why did you say that?

 

[zoozilla]

I seriously have a hard time understanding how people could be so strongly oppose two people getting married just because of their sexual orientation.

Especially in America, the "home of the free".

 

[MisterAnarchist]

Anyway, isn't Jesus already dead?

No, God is dead (so says Nietzsche) unless you're counting Jesus and God as one in the same, but I really don't want to get into that.

Also is anyone thinking about the religious gays who want it to still be called marriage? Calling it something different would force a separation which would cause one group to think they're better which leads to prejudice.

 

[Kogarian]

I said indifferent. I don't see why they can't get married, but at the same time I don't really see the joy of getting married. Most straight people I know have been divorced (several times).

 

[Remleiz]

Hey if gay people wanna get married and be miserable like everyone else let them

but seriously though, yeah i reckon they should be allowed to get married. Lesbians too

 

[arcainia]

Honestly, if it's not hurting anyone, and it makes them happy, I don't see the problem. I also don't really give a shit if they call it "marriage" or "domestic partnership". Because if both parties get the same rights, then you changing the name of the 'event' is just plain denial.

So long as they don't rub it in my face and try to make me follow them, they can do what they want.

Two questions:

1. When you say "don't rub it in my face", do you mean it like the same way when heterosexual married couples go off after the ceremony in their ribbon clad cars and beep at everyone who go by to 'express' their happiness?

2. How exactly can they get you to 'follow' them...? Are you afraid that with homosexuals getting the same rights as normal married couples they might somehow force you to become gay and then marry some other guy...? Your point is lost to me.

1. No. I'm saying when they go out of their way to show their orientation, as if doing something not usually acceptable by social norm gives them some form of special status.

2. In all truth, that was a stock response to anything particularly controversial, as that is my belief in most cases: Don't shove it under my nose, don't threaten me with a knife for believing otherwise, and you can do whatever you want. I'm not one to tell people what they can and cannot do unless it affects me directly.

Well that I can understand. But for every gay person who goes around flaunting their sexuality and wearing rainbow colored everything, there are 10 other gay people who look and act just the same as you do(not 'you' in particular, but you know what I mean).
It's how the media likes to portray gays as. It's provocative, and it catches the most attention. So who cares if it's true, right?

Even I think that the type of gays who go around being all fabulous is annoying, and I think that gay parades are kinda pointless. It's annoying, but, it's understandable. When society is trying to pretend you don't exist, you try to stand out as much as you can. If gay people had the same rights as any other person, they probably wouldn't feel the need to promote themselves like that. I'm not saying that all fabulous gays would disappear because they would have no more need for attention. There's always going to be an attention whore out there, gay or not.

Not everyone is American,Mr Dude.

Theres no Tax difference for Married and Single folks

And even if there is a difference, why should it be? Dont i have a right to be Single??

I kinda get the feeling that you have no idea what you're talking about. If you actually told us where you live then maybe we'd understand how in your country single people and married people have the same rights.

Also thanks, but I already have a brain. Nice back-argument though.

 

[Maze1125]

So long as they don't rub it in my face and try to make me follow them, they can do what they want.

Yet, we all know that that is likely to happend, like when the atheists tried to take the word god of the the "pledge of allegiance".

Yeah, let's ignore the fact it was added to the pledge during the cold war to show that America was counter to the 'godless' communists.

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

just don't raise children

Why?

because a young child's mind is more impressionable than you can possibly imagine. if a child is raise in an environment where there are nothing but flamboyant men, for example, they are going to truly believe that not only is gay marriage a universally acceptable practice, but even the RIGHT practice. If they are exposed to nothing but homosexuality from a very young age, they will grow to believe that heterosexuality is incorrect