Poll: Gay marriage- your thoughts?

[BLOONINJA 503]

If a drunk man and a stoned woman can get married at the drop of a hat, why does it gross Americans out at the idea of having two people who love each other with the same genitalia get married?

If some white trash couple in Atlanta living in a trailer can pop out kids by the dozens, why can't the gays adopt kids, who have little future otherwise? Do you know how miserable some of those children are in the boarding homes? They'd gladly get adopted by the boogie man, let alone two dads.

America just needs to freakin' grow up already! It's hurting our image as a free country, the homeless children and above all, the gays. And if we just stopped thinking gays would screw in the streets if they got married for one second, we'd all see it would help all said things greatly, and it would hurt no one!

EDIT: If anyone says that it's the same as letting someone marry their pet, I swear I will find you and take your brain out with an ice cream scoop to give it to someone who will actually use it.

America's has never been a truly free country.... no country has ever.

life is a *****, but you already knew that.

 

[ghost02]

Well I am the 'extremeist' from the other thread, I will put this more kindly. I am agianst it, keep traditional marriage. If you want to know why, ask. Otherwise I will not say anymore.

 

[Aschenkatza]

that's under the impulse that the gays are INTENTIONALLY telling their children, "Johnny, straight people are bad. the right way to be is gay. If you are straight we will disown you. you better not be straight" that's nonsense!! of course that's not what i'm talking about, although a parent who says anything like that to their child at a young age should be taken out and beaten. But little Johnny seeing something as small as seeing Daddy and Daddy kissing is enough to make them think, "Well Daddy and Daddy love each other. I guess that's how it's supposed to be." This is prolonged behavior and exposure which takes a few years to manifest itself. And just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, giving how long ago that practice even became a debatable issue

I see what you mean, but you must take into consideration that this little boy[who I guess I'll call Johnny as well but we really should have talked about the name together] will have friends who have heterosexual parents; and then when he goes to school, sex education and anything to do with families will probably be about heterosexual couples. This will eventually confuse little Johnny and he will either talk to a member of the school or more likely his parents who will [in all hopes] set him up to understand both routes of sexuality are perfectly normal; and if he is unsure, to experiment before making sure.
There are situations where a child could be exposed to Homosexuality enough to believe it is the most common form of sexuality, and if it works for the child and they become openly homosexual then all the more power to that child. If this child, however, decided that it prefers heterosexual to homosexual he will probably research or ask around and discover heterosexuality.

The Only possible way for a child to falsely believe that Homosexuality is the ONLY form of relationship, is where a child is manipulate into it. Because after all, every child will eventually find out how babies are made... and if not then there is something extremely wrong and that is a situation where the authorities would be called into action.

Another side of the debate believe that being homosexual is the way they were born. In these areas, children of homosexual relationships who become homosexual are believes to have received the gene which brings about homosexual tendencies. I personal believe that homosexuality is a decision and until they bring about scientific proof, I will stick to my bias.

 

[redeemer09]

they beleive your born gay so yes they see them sevles as a race another bs made from liberal america

 

[arcainia]

just don't raise children

Why?

because a young child's mind is more impressionable than you can possibly imagine. if a child is raise in an environment where there are nothing but flamboyant men, for example, they are going to truly believe that not only is gay marriage a universally acceptable practice, but even the RIGHT practice. If they are exposed to nothing but homosexuality from a very young age, they will grow to believe that heterosexuality is incorrect

This is ridiculous. Yes children are impressionable, but your talking about extreme situations which have never happened to my knowledge. The parents would have to actively show the children that being anything other than homosexual is wrong; which is what some heterosexual parents do if they are homophobic, i.e. show their children that being homosexual is wrong. [AKA: No one takes children away from heterosexual parents based on their sexual preferences...]
To immediately suggest that a homosexual couple will manipulate their children to believing heterosexual activities are wrong shows an irrational fear. It's just stupid.

that's under the impulse that the gays are INTENTIONALLY telling their children, "Johnny, straight people are bad. the right way to be is gay. If you are straight we will disown you. you better not be straight" that's nonsense!! of course that's not what i'm talking about, although a parent who says anything like that to their child at a young age should be taken out and beaten. But little Johnny seeing something as small as seeing Daddy and Daddy kissing is enough to make them think, "Well Daddy and Daddy love each other. I guess that's how it's supposed to be." This is prolonged behavior and exposure which takes a few years to manifest itself. And just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, giving how long ago that practice even became a debatable issue

So um...what exactly is the bad point here? You're scared that the children might turn gay themselves? Or that they might grow up hating heterosexuals...?
If you can, I would like to see some statistics of children being raised by gay couples and its supposed affects. The whole 'it may have happened and we just don't know about it' isn't going to get my fear factor running.

gay ppl have so much rights it mind blowings.they make shows about them they have everything and they ***** you say one bad thing about them everybody has to love them or your called a raceist its bullshit i say

Lol, God I hope that was sarcasm.

 

[Jerious1154]

It's deplorable that a minority group in the United States even has to fight to have the same rights as the majority, and even more deplorable that as of right now they're losing that fight.

 

[BLOONINJA 503]

they beleive your born gay so yes they see them sevles as a race another bs made from liberal america

If you can produce a coherent sentence, I might be able to hear you out.

 

[Good morning blues]

I have yet to come across a single argument against gay marriage that I find compelling or valid. The vast majority are based on innocent ignorance at best and simple homophobia at worst.

I dont understand the point of it, why are the trying so hard to be Hetero? .

Is there a special benefit to being married or something??

because i dont get this craze for marriage.

They're not trying to be hetero, they're trying to gain equal rights. There are several benefits; from a legal standpoint, the most important difference is tax benefits of a marriage, although there are a number of other issues as well - for instance, in several states, even if a gay person leaves their estate to their partner in their will, since they're not married and thusly not legally a part of the family, the state can appropriate the estate and distribute it to the deceased's relatives.

Ok! only in America and for the money, hmm

Cos where i come from, when you get married, you are on your own

You could marry a lamppost, there are no benefits tied to being married

Everyone is treated the same, now hows that for Equal Rights!

*Single people should start protesting too*

Where is "where I come from?" Tax differences for married couples versus single people are not exactly a rare phenomenon.

Not everyone is American,Mr Dude.

Theres no Tax difference for Married and Single folks

And even if there is a difference, why should it be? Dont i have a right to be Single??

Are you misreading my post? I asked you where you come from, how is that suggesting that you live in the United States? Your previous post made it pretty clear that you don't. I am not aware of a single location in the world where there is not a difference between married couples and single people for tax purposes, without even considering the other legal distinctions.

The difference is partially there to make it easier for people to file their taxes as a household, and partially to encourage people to get hitched and reproduce, because that next generation of workers isn't going to birth themselves.

 

[Spacelord]

Why does this matter to people?

 

[santaandy]

Let them have their marriages. I bet gay weddings are more fun anyway. At least the people there can actually sing and dance.

Really though, marriage isn't exactly what it was hundreds or thousands of years ago or even less than 50. Marriage has evolved into a celebratory ceremony that has nothing to do with its own origin, so any argument against gay marriage is pointless. Marriage stopped being religious a while ago, marriage isn't up for claim, get over it.

 

[sheic99]

Anyway, isn't Jesus already dead?

No, God is dead (so says Nietzsche) unless you're counting Jesus and God as one in the same, but I really don't want to get into that.

Also is anyone thinking about the religious gays who want it to still be called marriage? Calling it something different would force a separation which would cause one group to think they're better which leads to prejudice.

Well, he said that his Grandpa says Jesus will be dead and I was kind of making a joke out of it. Anyway, I didn't think a non-living being could die.

 

[willgreg123]

...AND STOP FIRING THE GAYS FROM THE MILITARY, CUZ I'M CERTAINLY NOT GONNA FIGHT IN THE BLOODY WAR IF SOMEONE ELSE WAS PERFECTLY WILLING TO TAKE MY PLACE!

PS: CAPS ARE COOL

EDIT: It also helps that I'm a massive coward.

 

[Lt. Dragunov]

Are we as a nation STILL having this "problem." Is't there more important things to deal with rather than if two people love each other. We all know how this will end, we will debate on it for like another few years then its gonna get legalised, in this day and age no one really gives a damn anymore.

 

[BIGpanda]

wow by looking at the this i can tell you ppl are grade A kiss ass's

wonderful way to contribute, keep up the good work.

Well I am the 'extremeist' from the other thread, I will put this more kindly. I am agianst it, keep traditional marriage. If you want to know why, ask. Otherwise I will not say anymore.

....uhh...okay....I ask you ghost02, what is it that has you against gay marriage.

 

[arcainia]

they beleive your born gay so yes they see them sevles as a race another bs made from liberal america

For the love of God, learn how to spell.
Also uh, how does that make them a different race? I've never heard of a gay person proclaiming to be something other then a human being. Being gay is a sexual preference. You can be a gay african-american, or a gay caucasian, or a gay asian, that's it. It's not a different race.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

they beleive your born gay so yes they see them sevles as a race another bs made from liberal america

So by that logic white men are not the same race as white women because they are born a different gender? Just because one is born gay does not mean that he or she is a different race, it is just another trait that person has. Like if you have freckles- that doesn't make you a different race. I dare you to go up to a gay person and ask if he or she sees himself or herself as a different race. That person will probably respond negatively.

Please, check your facts (and your grammar).

 

[redeemer09]

just don't raise children

Why?

because a young child's mind is more impressionable than you can possibly imagine. if a child is raise in an environment where there are nothing but flamboyant men, for example, they are going to truly believe that not only is gay marriage a universally acceptable practice, but even the RIGHT practice. If they are exposed to nothing but homosexuality from a very young age, they will grow to believe that heterosexuality is incorrect

This is ridiculous. Yes children are impressionable, but your talking about extreme situations which have never happened to my knowledge. The parents would have to actively show the children that being anything other than homosexual is wrong; which is what some heterosexual parents do if they are homophobic, i.e. show their children that being homosexual is wrong. [AKA: No one takes children away from heterosexual parents based on their sexual preferences...]
To immediately suggest that a homosexual couple will manipulate their children to believing heterosexual activities are wrong shows an irrational fear. It's just stupid.

that's under the impulse that the gays are INTENTIONALLY telling their children, "Johnny, straight people are bad. the right way to be is gay. If you are straight we will disown you. you better not be straight" that's nonsense!! of course that's not what i'm talking about, although a parent who says anything like that to their child at a young age should be taken out and beaten. But little Johnny seeing something as small as seeing Daddy and Daddy kissing is enough to make them think, "Well Daddy and Daddy love each other. I guess that's how it's supposed to be." This is prolonged behavior and exposure which takes a few years to manifest itself. And just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, giving how long ago that practice even became a debatable issue

So um...what exactly is the bad point here? You're scared that the children might turn gay themselves? Or that they might grow up hating heterosexuals...?
If you can, I would like to see some statistics of children being raised by gay couples and its supposed affects. The whole 'it may have happened and we just don't know about it' isn't going to get my fear factor running.

gay ppl have so much rights it mind blowings.they make shows about them they have everything and they ***** you say one bad thing about them everybody has to love them or your called a raceist its bullshit i say

Lol, God I hope that was sarcasm.

nope , have you seen this show if you wonder what is is there was a parody on south park about it.now if you go off saying "well they dont have that much" then riddle me this, why the hell can they get any job they want or they can go to any restraunt become singers hell if thats being discriminated call me fabulous matt.

 

[confernal]

Isn't marriage a custom practiced by the chruch and as such it should be the chruch that decides on that issue... I mean if we forced the chruch to do this then wouldn't that count as imposing our belifs on others(ironic) and stop out more basic rights that the common people have?

 

[redeemer09]

for the love of god its a fuckin forum

 

[Jerious1154]

just don't raise children

Why?

because a young child's mind is more impressionable than you can possibly imagine. if a child is raise in an environment where there are nothing but flamboyant men, for example, they are going to truly believe that not only is gay marriage a universally acceptable practice, but even the RIGHT practice. If they are exposed to nothing but homosexuality from a very young age, they will grow to believe that heterosexuality is incorrect

This is ridiculous. Yes children are impressionable, but your talking about extreme situations which have never happened to my knowledge. The parents would have to actively show the children that being anything other than homosexual is wrong; which is what some heterosexual parents do if they are homophobic, i.e. show their children that being homosexual is wrong. [AKA: No one takes children away from heterosexual parents based on their sexual preferences...]
To immediately suggest that a homosexual couple will manipulate their children to believing heterosexual activities are wrong shows an irrational fear. It's just stupid.

that's under the impulse that the gays are INTENTIONALLY telling their children, "Johnny, straight people are bad. the right way to be is gay. If you are straight we will disown you. you better not be straight" that's nonsense!! of course that's not what i'm talking about, although a parent who says anything like that to their child at a young age should be taken out and beaten. But little Johnny seeing something as small as seeing Daddy and Daddy kissing is enough to make them think, "Well Daddy and Daddy love each other. I guess that's how it's supposed to be." This is prolonged behavior and exposure which takes a few years to manifest itself. And just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened, giving how long ago that practice even became a debatable issue

So um...what exactly is the bad point here? You're scared that the children might turn gay themselves? Or that they might grow up hating heterosexuals...?
If you can, I would like to see some statistics of children being raised by gay couples and its supposed affects. The whole 'it may have happened and we just don't know about it' isn't going to get my fear factor running.

gay ppl have so much rights it mind blowings.they make shows about them they have everything and they ***** you say one bad thing about them everybody has to love them or your called a raceist its bullshit i say

Lol, God I hope that was sarcasm.

nope , have you seen this show if you wonder what is is there was a parody on south park about it.now if you go off saying "well they dont have that much" then riddle me this, why the hell can they get any job they want or they can go to any restraunt become singers hell if thats being discriminated call me fabulous matt.

So your logic is that since homosexuals have many of the same rights as heterosexuals, they don't need to have all of the same rights?