Poll: Gay Marriage

[Xanadu84]

One of the founding point of United States government is the separation of church and state. Banning gay marriage clearly shows a Christian influence on the Legislative branch.

Correction, it shows an influence by a specific group of Christians, specifically a slowly dying demographic within Christianity. It is Theocracy at it's worst.

 

[Ashtovo]

Only thing I feel like saying to be honest is "The Fall of Rome."

I'm tired of this, Rome didn't fall because of homosexuality. If anything Rome's fall actually had more to do with its adopting Christianity*. A pacifist religion is hardly the best choice for a militarist state... though today we seem to have worked through that by ignoring the pacifist part.

*According to The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon

Oh, you're tired of it? I'm sorry. I didn't realize. Did I credit it the entire Fall of Rome to gays? No. No, I did not. Besides, Christianity is hardly pacifist. Just because we focus on the whole Jesus part, doesn't mean there aren't chapters of war in our book.

Sum of its parts. Thats what lead to the downfall, being gay was one of them.

so was having retarded leaders

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Yeah. Perez Hilton is pretty annoying

Well 'duh', that goes without saying Paris Hilton too, of course.

Of course.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

I believe that in a free country the majority should not be able to vote down the rights of a minority. That's how the oppression of racial minorities and women happened.

Interesting. Because I believe that in a free country, the will of the people is sacrosanct and inviolable. I would much rather be oppressed by the majority than by a small group of people who think they know what's best for me.

Noones trying to tell you what's best for YOU. They're trying to supply equal rights for everyone.

If ONE person in a society is treated unfairly or oppressed- nobody is free. When gay rights is over and they look for another scape goat, it may well be a group you're a part of. In fact, I think there's a good chance gamers will be the next group they go after.

 

[Xvito]

*looks at poll results*

I really don't know what to say... There are actually people that believe gay people aren't human beings. That's pretty bad.

I guess some people really are stupid.

I just hope that I never ever meet you in person. I would probably throw up.

 

['Stache]

I believe that in a free country the majority should not be able to vote down the rights of a minority. That's how the oppression of racial minorities and women happened.

Interesting. Because I believe that in a free country, the will of the people is sacrosanct and inviolable. I would much rather be oppressed by the majority than by a small group of people who think they know what's best for me.

Noones trying to tell you what's best for YOU. They're trying to supply equal rights for everyone.

Except voters, apparently.
What part of "inviolable" do you not understand?

 

[Aanorith]

It's just depressing that gay marriage is still an issue. Now I personally don't understand why homosexuells would want to get married in chruch to begin with considering how badly they have bin treated by christianity.

The old testament said many fun things, you could have slaves, had to stone people working on the sabbath. Fun times, why homosexuallity got to stay as a hot topic with the rest adjusting gradually as society progressed is just a mystery to me.

I'm all for it. Be it two brides dressed in white, or two strapping lads in suits walking down the aile, ill be the first one to be clapping and throwing rice.

I think they might kick you out if you just randomly turn up mate

It may be creepy but I have good intention

 

[Skutch]

It's just depressing that gay marriage is still an issue. Now I personally don't understand why homosexuells would want to get married in chruch to begin with considering how badly they have bin treated by christianity.

The old testament said many fun things, you could have slaves, had to stone people working on the sabbath. Fun times, why homosexuallity got to stay as a hot topic with the rest adjusting gradually as society progressed is just a mystery to me.

I'm all for it. Be it two brides dressed in white, or two strapping lads in suits walking down the aile, ill be the first one to be clapping and throwing rice.

I think they might kick you out if you just randomly turn up mate

It may be creepy but I have good intention

How about two strapping lads in white wedding dresses?

 

[hippo24]

I might hazard to say that the words "gay", "abortion", "halo", and "WOW" take up 80% of the escapist forums...

Why can't we be like other sites and argue about weather or not the pyro will get a movie update for 30 pages.
I like my Internet to be as far from reality as I can manage.

 

[cobra_ky]

I believe that in a free country the majority should not be able to vote down the rights of a minority. That's how the oppression of racial minorities and women happened.

Interesting. Because I believe that in a free country, the will of the people is sacrosanct and inviolable. I would much rather be oppressed by the majority than by a small group of people who think they know what's best for me.

really? it's much, much easier to defend yourself from a small group.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

I believe that in a free country the majority should not be able to vote down the rights of a minority. That's how the oppression of racial minorities and women happened.

Interesting. Because I believe that in a free country, the will of the people is sacrosanct and inviolable. I would much rather be oppressed by the majority than by a small group of people who think they know what's best for me.

Noones trying to tell you what's best for YOU. They're trying to supply equal rights for everyone.

Except voters, apparently.
What part of "inviolable" do you not understand?

The part where the will of the people became so damn sarcosanct. There's nothing sacred about a majority. They're just a bunch of people who happen to agree with each other on one issue. Liberty, Equality and Fraternity - the foundations of any free state - are not built on the invioable will of some amphormous mass. They are built on the rights of each and every damn individual, by god, and if you cannot see the injustice in this I truly despair.

 

[Xx7 elevenxX]

Let them do what they want. My aunt is a lesbian and im fine with it. I don't see why people care so much ABOUT OTHERS LIVES!

 

[scotth266]

One of the founding point of United States government is the separation of church and state. Banning gay marriage clearly shows a Christian influence on the Legislative branch.

Yeah, because being anti-gay is solely a religious attribute.

In case you couldn't tell, HEAVY SARCASM IS HEAVY.

*looks at poll results*

I really don't know what to say... There are actually people that believe gay people aren't human beings. That's pretty bad.

I fail to see where it says that on the poll.

I probably should just ignore this thread, because I know a good deal of it will be pissing me off, and posting in it just keeps it floating up on the top of the page...

 

[joystickjunki3]

I think that communities should be able to make their own laws. So I voted for the states option.

But other than that, I have no problem w/ gay marriage.

 

[Xvito]

One of the founding point of United States government is the separation of church and state. Banning gay marriage clearly shows a Christian influence on the Legislative branch.

Yeah, because being anti-gay is solely a religious attribute.

In case you couldn't tell, HEAVY SARCASM IS HEAVY.

*looks at poll results*

I really don't know what to say... There are actually people that believe gay people aren't human beings. That's pretty bad.

I fail to see where it says that on the poll.

I probably should just ignore this thread, because I know a good deal of it will be pissing me off, and posting in it just keeps it floating up on the top of the page...

By taking away someones human rights (human rights = the right to freedom) you are effectively saying that they're not human.

 

[C.O.C]

Yeah I'm not flaming or anything but did we have gay couples hundreds of years ago and in my opinion I come from an area full of posers (which is also the reason i wont join any social sites like facebook for every one cool person you meet there theres at least 20 people pretending to be something they arent) so perhaps its like a fad but im not against gay marriage just pointing out that its pretty recent isnt it?

 

[WolfmanNougat]

I'm not fond of the idea of "marriage" in general. If two people love eacother, great, let them be together; is there really any need to make it "official"? I'm not saying people shouldn't do it if they do want to, for whatever reason, be it through belief or tradition or whatnot; I just don't see the point of it myself.
That's all I'm saying.

 

[scotth266]

By taking away someones human rights (human rights = the right to freedom) you are effectively saying that they're not human.

Some people are okay with the concept of gay marriage: they just want it to be called something else because of the traditional idea of marriage being a man/woman deal. Hence they vote the other way.

 

[Aries_Split]

The fact that it is still illegal ANYWHERE is absolutely fucking awful!
The church insists that homosexuality is wrong. Well as OP said gays are born gay and they are no different from heteros. Same species and same DNA isn't it? The church is a terrible terrible thing (well, all religion is).
I fight for gay rights entirely and believe there should be nothing to stop 2 men or 2 women from expressing their eternal love for one another

Okay, this I couldn't let go.

People are not born gay. There is no basis for it in evolutionary theory (in development centered around reproduction for continuation of a species, why would homosexuality, which produces no offspring, be mutated into someone?), and if you believe in creation, to Bible speaks out against homosexuality, so it would not be something created by God, but something corrupted by Satan. Either way, homosexuality is not biological: it is a choice.

And you are being completely intolerant of religion, and no offense, but usually when people are, it is out of ignorance. Some religions are horrible, yes, but not religion as a whole. Not at all.

Of course. I'm sure 800 million people just woke up one day and said "I think I'll be hated by 3 billion people and I'll feel isolated and alienated from everyone and have a 15% higher chance of getting depression and killing myself."

You fucking tosser.