Poll: Girls Don't Like Assholes.

[Conn1496]

>Girls don't like assholes
>Nobody likes assholes
>Keyword: Assholes

Stop stating the bloody obvious... and stop complaining about girls, that won't get you anywhere for starters. All these threads about women are infuriating. Maybe, just maybe you can't get a girlfriend because you're trying too hard. I also assume you're going to revoke your statement about "One of the traits of internet guys like us is low self-confidence", because that's just plain out prejudice. I happen to have confidence, and I'm a common internet lurker... and most importantly, stop talking about the "friendzone". If she doesn't want to go out with you, deal with it...

Jeez, anyone would think it was impossible to get a girlfriend...

 

[Panzer_God]

>Girls don't like assholes
>Nobody likes assholes
>Keyword: Assholes

Stop stating the bloody obvious... and stop complaining about girls, that won't get you anywhere for starters. All these threads about women are infuriating. Maybe, just maybe you can't get a girlfriend because you're trying too hard. I also assume you're going to revoke your statement about "One of the traits of internet guys like us is low self-confidence", because that's just plain out prejudice. I happen to have confidence, and I'm a common internet lurker... and most importantly, stop talking about the "friendzone". If she doesn't want to go out with you, deal with it...

Jeez, anyone would think it was impossible to get a girlfriend...

You... you have no idea that you just agreed with almost everything I said, do you?

 

[Conn1496]

>Girls don't like assholes
>Nobody likes assholes
>Keyword: Assholes

Stop stating the bloody obvious... and stop complaining about girls, that won't get you anywhere for starters. All these threads about women are infuriating. Maybe, just maybe you can't get a girlfriend because you're trying too hard. I also assume you're going to revoke your statement about "One of the traits of internet guys like us is low self-confidence", because that's just plain out prejudice. I happen to have confidence, and I'm a common internet lurker... and most importantly, stop talking about the "friendzone". If she doesn't want to go out with you, deal with it...

Jeez, anyone would think it was impossible to get a girlfriend...

You... you have no idea that you just agreed with almost everything I said, do you?

How on earth did I just agree with you? I'm pretty sure I was plain out telling you to stop complaining about women.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Overall I think the OP is right confidence is a big factor in having a relationship. However,
as a girl I have this heart breaking ability to fall for guys who aren't attracted to me whatsoever but yet they want to spend all their time with me :/ I have made it pretty clear to these guys that I like them but I guess I must not be pretty enough to be a girlfriend but apparently fun enough to spend loads of time around. At one point one of these guys asked a girl out who had out right insulted him in public...

If guys are in a situation like that I can see how it can be frustrating and they end up calling it 'the friend-zone' I'm not whining but it is depressing. I have sometimes felt like I'm being 'used' for my personality lol.

So while I recognise the need for self improvement I also recognise that it isn't all as straight forward as that. I guess relationships can be difficult at times.

 

[LetalisK]

>Girls don't like assholes
>Nobody likes assholes
>Keyword: Assholes

Stop stating the bloody obvious... and stop complaining about girls, that won't get you anywhere for starters. All these threads about women are infuriating. Maybe, just maybe you can't get a girlfriend because you're trying too hard. I also assume you're going to revoke your statement about "One of the traits of internet guys like us is low self-confidence", because that's just plain out prejudice. I happen to have confidence, and I'm a common internet lurker... and most importantly, stop talking about the "friendzone". If she doesn't want to go out with you, deal with it...

Jeez, anyone would think it was impossible to get a girlfriend...

You... you have no idea that you just agreed with almost everything I said, do you?

I would have thought by now you would have learned that few people actually read the OP, much less the whole thread.

Because of this thread, your last thread, and your new avatar, I think you're my new favorite person here.

 

[Blow_Pop]

Now you might ask, what does that mean? It means don't listen to the medical profession if they say you are overweight for your height. It means BMI means jack shit(that one has actually been debunked that your BMI can determine if you are overweight). It means that everybody is different and what might be healthy for one person may be underweight for another or overweight for another.

Sadly, some of us are slaves to the BMI system just the same, as retarded as it may be. Forget professional medical opinions - it's potential employers that hold the cards. For example, if I exceed a certain BMI (in many cases it's 25, as things stand today) I won't be able to apply for tenure once I start my teaching career.
Not to say that this is a completely bad thing. Coming to terms with the harsh reality this standard imposes made me get my act together and get in shape; I've still got a small way to go (about 25lbs to my goal), but so far I've shed roughly 100lbs over the past 19 weeks and I feel much better now. And yeah, looking in the mirror and thinking, "Who's this guy?" with a self-satisfied smirk on my face is certainly a confidence booster.

Military too. It's why I'll never be able to join the US military. Going by my BMI because I was a VERY ACTIVE child/teenager (played sports, walked/rode my bike/rollerbladed everywhere even to school, hiked and backpacked a lot, etc) I've been overweight since about 6th grade and back then minus the muscle on my legs I was a stick figure and up until I graduated high school because I was so thin everyone thought I had an eating disorder. Well everyone meaning everyone I went to school with. So since about then I've stopped believing in BMI. And then the military told me that I didn't have "enough muscle" to prove that I wasn't overweight simply because I have no upper body strength. And that I would have to lose weight to be eligible to join. Of course that was before they medically disqualified me because I had been on medication for my ADD 4 years prior and had been off of it for 4 years. Which was retarded but whatever.

Now you might ask, what does that mean? It means don't listen to the medical profession if they say you are overweight for your height. It means BMI means jack shit(that one has actually been debunked that your BMI can determine if you are overweight). It means that everybody is different and what might be healthy for one person may be underweight for another or overweight for another.

...Because doctors take the BMI system deadly serious.

The BMI index gives an idea on what your ideal weight should be. The doctor has to take into account the person's physic and lifestyle (I.e is he a rugby player or athlete) in-order to understand whether the inconsistent result is explained. In such case, they also may measure your waist.

Having a high or low BMI doesn't mean life or death but it does comes down to why is it high/low. Such as it's perfectly acceptable for a small build male to have a low BMI. (although you will still fail a medical if you were joining the army or giving blood.)

But know this, people don't gain muscle sitting on their arse and they often rationalise their own health.

My doctor has told me that according to my BMI I've been overweight for 16 years. Which is more than half my life. However I've only actually been overweight for my build(not just my height but how my body is built) for about 6 of those years. Maybe 7. Because that's when work started getting in the way of me going camping and backpacking and hiking. Though honestly, I'm really not that overweight.

Spoiler

job interviews so naturally i looked nicer than normal but you get the idea. Those were about 2 weeks ago and I still look about like that

IF I dropped down to what my BMI says I should be it wouldn't look right on me. And people would go back to presuming that I have an eating disorder such as bulimia or anorexia. And it wasn't fun the first time I had to go through the criticism and unsolicited advice about something that isn't even true and I'd care not to go through it again. I'd have to drop over 30 lbs to be at what my weight SHOULD be for my height. Not happening. I'd like to drop 10 lbs and turn it into muscle instead of fat but that will take time and dedication and I'm working on it in between looking for work. So, I re-iterate my point of BMI doesn't mean shit. And I don't give a rats ass what the medical profession says. You can't say that anyone who is this height should only be between this weight and that and have it apply to everyone. I'm mostly legs. So my weight vs someone who was mostly torso will look differently on us. (and I'm saying that from my own study of my friends who are same height as me and weight since I have a few and they're different body types.)

 

[The White Hunter]

Muffins are indeed delicious though I should point otu that English muffins are superior.

 

[RoyalWelsh]

Yep, I totally agree with you OP, however, on a more serious note, muffins ARE delicious. They just are.

 

[Panzer_God]

>Girls don't like assholes
>Nobody likes assholes
>Keyword: Assholes

Stop stating the bloody obvious... and stop complaining about girls, that won't get you anywhere for starters. All these threads about women are infuriating. Maybe, just maybe you can't get a girlfriend because you're trying too hard. I also assume you're going to revoke your statement about "One of the traits of internet guys like us is low self-confidence", because that's just plain out prejudice. I happen to have confidence, and I'm a common internet lurker... and most importantly, stop talking about the "friendzone". If she doesn't want to go out with you, deal with it...

Jeez, anyone would think it was impossible to get a girlfriend...

You... you have no idea that you just agreed with almost everything I said, do you?

How on earth did I just agree with you? I'm pretty sure I was plain out telling you to stop complaining about women.

Ok, do me a favor. Actually read what I wrote, okay? You don't even have to read all of it, I repeat myself a lot, but literally the entire OP, and most of my posts since then have revolved around telling people not to complain about women. My only comment about the friend zone is to yell at people who use it. Really, you're embarrassing yourself.

I would have thought by now you would have learned that few people actually read the OP, much less the whole thread.

Because of this thread, your last thread, and your new avatar, I think you're my new favorite person here.

I am realizing it, but that doesn't mean I can't be disappoint by people who try to insult you but end up agreeing with you because they have no idea what you said.

Also, I'm glad. Hopefully I'll be around more now, I went for almost a year with like no posts and it made me sad.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Yep, I totally agree with you OP, however, on a more serious note, muffins ARE delicious. They just are.

I had a cat that would steal muffins and then run away like a velociraptor while holding them in it's front paws. :|

 

[Smeatza]

You're funny. You think I'm like this because I got the happy ending? You think the reason I get so pissed at the people I call cowards is because I can't sympathize? I didn't get the storybook ending, I didn't get the girl. I've been rejected, over and over again. I've been cheated on, I've been cheated with, I've had girls ask me out and then stand me up because they thought it was funny, I've had guys beat me up because their girlfriends made up some story about me creeping them, I almost went to prison when the only girl I've ever had sex with told everyone I raped her. I've asked out ten girls and a few guys since the start of the year, every single one of them has said no. What I can't stand, what makes me think that I'm just so much better than the guy you're describing is that I didn't turn into a ***** over it. I admit, I had rough patches, times where I thought that I didn't deserve to be human, where I thought about ending it. I got over them. From elementary school on upwards, I was bullied. I'm not talking mean words and cliques either, I'm talking the police getting called, hospital trips and broken bones. There hasn't been a single fucking person in my life that tried to make it easy for me, save my grandmama. My confidence comes from the fact that I made it anyway, because I've hit rock bottom and then I got the fuck over it. I'm not going to pretend it's easy, and I don't blame the people that hit bottom. I blame the people that don't try to get over it, the ones that think that it'll never get better. If you'd prefer to sit in the dark room telling yourself that you aren't human because girls don't like you, then fuck off. I've got real problems to face.

"There hasn't been a single fucking person in my life that tried to make it easy for me, save my grandmama."
And so you've chosen to act like all the people who never tried to help you, and not like your Grandma.
So basically "people were a dick to me when I was in your situation so I have the right to be a dick to you."

You say it yourself "I've hit rock bottom then I got the fuck over it." You had to reach rock bottom before you changed your outlook and did something about it. So why be so callous and cruel towards those who are still on their way to rock bottom.

 

[Eamar]

How on earth did I just agree with you? I'm pretty sure I was plain out telling you to stop complaining about women.

You didn't read the whole post did you? OP was also telling people to stop complaining about girls and putting the complainers straight on things like the "friend zone". Of course, the net result in terms of the nature of the thread is the same, but still.

Overall I think the OP is right confidence is a big factor in having a relationship. However,
as a girl I have this heart breaking ability to fall for guys who aren't attracted to me whatsoever but yet they want to spend all their time with me :/ I have made it pretty clear to these guys that I like them but I guess I must not be pretty enough to be a girlfriend but apparently fun enough to spend loads of time around. At one point one of these guys asked a girl out who had out right insulted him in public...

If guys are in a situation like that I can see how it can be frustrating and they end up calling it 'the friend-zone' I'm not whining but it is depressing. I have sometimes felt like I'm being 'used' for my personality lol.

So while I recognise the need for self improvement I also recognise that it isn't all as straight forward as that.

Don't take it personally, it's purely just a case of these guys not being attracted to you in "that" way. I'm sure there are plenty of nice, perfectly "attractive" guys that you've met who you just "haven't felt that way" about. It's a chemical thing, not that you're "not pretty enough" and there's really nothing you can do about it.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

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I know it can just get a little bit upsetting I feel like I'm cursed sometimes lol.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

And so you've chosen to act like all the people who never tried to help you, and not like your Grandma.

So basically "people were a dick to me when I was in your situation so I have the right to be a dick to you."

You say it yourself "I've hit rock bottom then I got the fuck over it." You had to reach rock bottom before you changed your outlook and did something about it. So why be so callous and cruel towards those who are still on their way to rock bottom.

He didn't say anything of the sort. He's actually attempting to HELP the person he's talking to. That person, BTW, is taking the "OH WOE IS ME DON'T TELL ME THERE ARE SOLUTIONS I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP ME FUCK THE WORLD" tack, and merits a dose of tough reality. There's nothing remotely callous or cruel about it.

When I was in my early 20's and mired deep in my self-pitying, misanthropic/misogynistic streak, I would have been well served by a few more people telling me to get the fuck over myself. It wasn't until a few actually did that I started cluing in to the reality that a significant percentage of the problem was stemming from me and my shitty outlook.

 

[Eamar]

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I know it can just get a little bit upsetting I feel like I'm cursed sometimes lol.

Oh I know that feel, bro (sis, I guess?) It'll get better

 

[EeveeElectro]

-snip-

What I'm trying to get at, I don't mind guys like you. Guys who are cool with me when I try talk but usually keep themselves to themselves.

I'm not judging anyone by looks. But when I try talk/cheer up a miserable looking guy and he just constantly grunts and mumbles it seems like he's just throwing my hospitality back in my face. Just people who are always in a miserable mood are unattractive to me. Especially those who are miserable when they have so much to be grateful for.

 

[Panzer_God]

"There hasn't been a single fucking person in my life that tried to make it easy for me, save my grandmama."

And so you've chosen to act like all the people who never tried to help you, and not like your Grandma.
So basically "people were a dick to me when I was in your situation so I have the right to be a dick to you."

You say it yourself "I've hit rock bottom then I got the fuck over it." You had to reach rock bottom before you changed your outlook and did something about it. So why be so callous and cruel towards those who are still on their way to rock bottom.

You ever heard the story about the man who falls into the hole?

Spoiler

This guy is walking down the street when he falls in a hole. The walls are so steep he can't get out. A doctor passes by and the guy shouts up, 'Hey you. Can you help me out?' The doctor writes a prescription, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a priest comes along and the guy shouts up, 'Father, I'm down in this hole can you help me out?' The priest writes out a prayer, throws it down in the hole and moves on. Then a friend walks by, 'Hey, Joe, it's me can you help me out?' And the friend jumps in the hole. Our guy says, 'Are you stupid? Now we're both down here.' The friend says, 'Yeah, but I've been down here before and I know the way out.'

I've fallen in the hole, I know what keeps you down there, and what gets you out. Whining, worrying and moping keep you down there, telling yourself that you aren't worth it keeps you down there. Hiding from everything because you're afraid of rejection keeps you down there.

I'm callous because I know how they feel, I'm mean because it gets my point across. If someone says "Hey, I'm stuck, can you help?" I'll give them everything I can. When people would rather stay in the hole, then I say fuck 'em and walk away. Maybe I could talk to them and politely explain the way out of the hole, but I don't have the time to help people that don't want help. I'd rather help the people that need it.

 

[Panzer_God]

He didn't say anything of the sort. He's actually attempting to HELP the person he's talking to. That person, BTW, is taking the "OH WOE IS ME DON'T TELL ME THERE ARE SOLUTIONS I'M TIRED OF PEOPLE TRYING TO HELP ME FUCK THE WORLD" tack, and merits a dose of tough reality. There's nothing remotely callous or cruel about it.

When I was in my early 20's and mired deep in my self-pitying, misanthropic/misogynistic streak, I would have been well served by a few more people telling me to get the fuck over myself. It wasn't until a few actually did that I started cluing in to the reality that a significant percentage of the problem was stemming from me and my shitty outlook.

You didn't read the whole post did you? OP was also telling people to stop complaining about girls and putting the complainers straight on things like the "friend zone". Of course, the net result in terms of the nature of the thread is the same, but still.

These people. They rock.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

No, you're right, they much prefer urethras.

...

Okay, I don't feel good about that joke at all. But basically, it varies. Some women like being treated like crap, others prefer a more equal approach, others yet like to be the assholes in their relationships. Same with dudes. It's amazing what people find attractive in a partner. Or a master/whipping post.

Women are a hivemind again?

Nice.

Now I can get them all to make me a sandwich at the same time by using my fiancee as my communicator.

Joking aside, nobody knows what women want, because women are individuals too.

Cheap answer, I know.

But it's the right one

There you go, being rational again. Don't you know the internet hates that? It's like our Kryptonite.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

No, you're right, they much prefer urethras.

...

Okay, I don't feel good about that joke at all. But basically, it varies. Some women like being treated like crap, others prefer a more equal approach, others yet like to be the assholes in their relationships. Same with dudes. It's amazing what people find attractive in a partner. Or a master/whipping post.

Women are a hivemind again?

Nice.

Now I can get them all to make me a sandwich at the same time by using my fiancee as my communicator.

Joking aside, nobody knows what women want, because women are individuals too.

Cheap answer, I know.

But it's the right one

There you go, being rational again. Don't you know the internet hates that? It's like our Kryptonite.

I'm sorry.

I'll be sure to froth at the mouth with unnecessary rage next time