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jackpackage200 said:
I wholeheartedly agree. But remember everyone is different. Confidence is very important. Also the fear of rejection is something guys need to get over. "you miss 100% of the shots you do not take."
But here's the thing, nobody thinks less of you for missing the shots you don't take. Everything thinks you're pathetic if you miss the shot that everyone else got.

Honestly, I'm sick to death of being called a coward for being afraid of rejection. Rejection is a great amount of shame, not to mention mental "pain" for want of a less emo term. Rejection means that yet again, I fail at simply being human.

And y'know what? I'm sick to death of being told to get more self confidence by the same world that spent the first part of my life telling me I'm worthless.

But most of all? I'm sick to death of people thinking there's an answer. The only answers are yes or no. Some of get one, some of us get the other, and some of us will always get the latter. I really wish I could do something about it, but I can't magic myself into something worthy of the title, "human" can I? So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
 

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CrazyGirl17 said:
I'm a girl, and I hate assholes... though I suppose there are (stupid) women who do...
But you're crazy, I mean it's in your name, that you are the 17th model of the insane female!
Hey, I may be crazy, but I do have standards...
 

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Doclector said:
Honestly, I'm sick to death of being called a coward for being afraid of rejection. Rejection is a great amount of shame, not to mention mental "pain" for want of a less emo term. Rejection means that yet again, I fail at simply being human.

And y'know what? I'm sick to death of being told to get more self confidence by the same world that spent the first part of my life telling me I'm worthless.

But most of all? I'm sick to death of people thinking there's an answer. The only answers are yes or no. Some of get one, some of us get the other, and some of us will always get the latter. I really wish I could do something about it, but I can't magic myself into something worthy of the title, "human" can I? So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
Can I call you an Eeyore? You're being an Eeyore. I'm almost certain we've had this exact discussion before, and I called you an Eeyore then too. Possibly it was some other Eeyore. Eeyore is fairly awesome so you needn't take it as an insult, but it does mean you are the author of much of your own unhappiness.

You need to accept that "the world" is not speaking to you with one voice. If being confident were easy, or if life always broke in such a way as to flood us with confidence, no one would have your problem. Instead, almost everyone has your problem, including people who seemingly have absolutely no business having it. Everyone is wracked by self doubt. THAT is a fundamental part of the human experience, not "confidence".

You don't need to be all "Dude, I got this" before parkouring up the side of a building every time a girl walks by. You just need to work on keeping your seething storm of loathing and doubt to a dull roar. A little bit of vulnerability and need can be charming. An overwhelming cascade of it is stressful and alarming. People have enough stress and alarm as it is without having to deal with more from you.

HOWEVER. It sounds like you've heard all this before so you're probably going "yada yada yada" in your head and making rude gestures in my general direction so I'll stop trying to help now. Say hi to Christopher Robin for me.
 

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I think you're wrong here. Lots of women date "guys like us". It's just that the sort of person to make a big deal over the question tends not be actually one of the "guys like us", even if they like to pretend they are, they are more usually another kind of arsehole.
Quoting this for truth.

In any case: It works both ways. Guys don't like girls who act like assholes either. (Carefully phrased sentence here.) Idiots are present in both genders, and people who like idiots are likely to be just that themselves.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Don't worry, the doctor is here. Head over to the next apothecary and get yourself a good dose of "don't give a fuckery". It helps. Probably.
I will try not not give a fuck about what could happen, but I don't know if it will work.Still, thanks for the blunt advice!


BloatedGuppy said:
And I would like to say thanks to you for also giving helpful advice. I'm not sure if I will remember this next time I will try, but I will do my best to calm the storm to a dull and annoying itch.
 

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I just wanna jump in here in support of muffins. When are we going to start talking about the REAL issues?

Cranberry vs. blueberry?

Honestly, I could go with either.
 

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Ok...Allow me to step onto this soap box.

I was never a confident young lad, and my god was I shy as all hell. I'm still shy now, but I'm a bit more confident of myself. Being the professional faker I am, I pretend I'm happy exactly how I am, even if I'm not. I could name a lot of things I hate about me, personality wise and physical being. But yet, I still manage to keep that "I'm sexy and I know it." vibe, or something similar. I can carry conversations, and I've been told I'm a situational guy when it comes to humor. I can be very rude at times, but it's a playful rude, and I have tone that makes others aware of it.

As far as girls go, I have mixed responses based off of how well they know me. I mentioned I can be rude, and when meeting a large group of people that know a friend of mine, I will be very rude as a defense mechanism, I believe. I don't know why I do it, but I do. The people that actually have looked past that and gotten to know me better say that I'm only a jerk when it's meant to be funny. Over all, I'm a nice a guy.

With today's generation, I don't think it's "All girls are bitches." I think it's "All guys are just picking the wrong girls." I have a rule, to be honest. If it looks used, I won't use it. Other guys...not so much. I'd rather find a sweet girl who has no experience than a slut who's had every guy stuff her at one point or another. I learned that the hard way.
 

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itsthesheppy said:
I just wanna jump in here in support of muffins. When are we going to start talking about the REAL issues?

Cranberry vs. blueberry?

Honestly, I could go with either.
This man knows the real issues, too bad it's so easily solvable. Blueberry muffins are the greatest baked good in the history of everything.
 

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Panzer_God said:
itsthesheppy said:
I just wanna jump in here in support of muffins. When are we going to start talking about the REAL issues?

Cranberry vs. blueberry?

Honestly, I could go with either.
This man knows the real issues, too bad it's so easily solvable. Blueberry muffins are the greatest baked good in the history of everything.
You are WRONG and because you are wrong on the internet, it is my mission from the Great and Powerful Atheisto to destroy you.

Here it comes:

You're stupid and your face and you suck.

Cranberry muffins are like blueberry muffins but with added zing, and since everyone likes zing, you are provably wrong.
 

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itsthesheppy said:
Panzer_God said:
itsthesheppy said:
I just wanna jump in here in support of muffins. When are we going to start talking about the REAL issues?

Cranberry vs. blueberry?

Honestly, I could go with either.
This man knows the real issues, too bad it's so easily solvable. Blueberry muffins are the greatest baked good in the history of everything.
You are WRONG and because you are wrong on the internet, it is my mission from the Great and Powerful Atheisto to destroy you.

Here it comes:

You're stupid and your face and you suck.

Cranberry muffins are like blueberry muffins but with added zing, and since everyone likes zing, you are provably wrong.
LIES! Blueberry muffins have plenty of ZING. They are the most delicious things in all of deliciousness!

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Allthingsspectacular said:
Women don't like assholes, they're drawn to them. A subtle but meaningful difference.
3) Women like mother - ah, he's a bad boy but I can make him good and yet retain all the bad boy stuff about him somehow
Women want a bad boy who is sweet only for them.

Guys want a good girl who is naughty only for them.

Doclector said:
But here's the thing, nobody thinks less of you for missing the shots you don't take. Everything thinks you're pathetic if you miss the shot that everyone else got.

Honestly, I'm sick to death of being called a coward for being afraid of rejection. Rejection is a great amount of shame, not to mention mental "pain" for want of a less emo term. Rejection means that yet again, I fail at simply being human.

And y'know what? I'm sick to death of being told to get more self confidence by the same world that spent the first part of my life telling me I'm worthless.

But most of all? I'm sick to death of people thinking there's an answer. The only answers are yes or no. Some of get one, some of us get the other, and some of us will always get the latter. I really wish I could do something about it, but I can't magic myself into something worthy of the title, "human" can I? So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
Can I call you an Eeyore? You're being an Eeyore. I'm almost certain we've had this exact discussion before, and I called you an Eeyore then too. Possibly it was some other Eeyore. Eeyore is fairly awesome so you needn't take it as an insult, but it does mean you are the author of much of your own unhappiness.

You need to accept that "the world" is not speaking to you with one voice. If being confident were easy, or if life always broke in such a way as to flood us with confidence, no one would have your problem. Instead, almost everyone has your problem, including people who seemingly have absolutely no business having it. Everyone is wracked by self doubt. THAT is a fundamental part of the human experience, not "confidence".

You don't need to be all "Dude, I got this" before parkouring up the side of a building every time a girl walks by. You just need to work on keeping your seething storm of loathing and doubt to a dull roar. A little bit of vulnerability and need can be charming. An overwhelming cascade of it is stressful and alarming. People have enough stress and alarm as it is without having to deal with more from you.

HOWEVER. It sounds like you've heard all this before so you're probably going "yada yada yada" in your head and making rude gestures in my general direction so I'll stop trying to help now. Say hi to Christopher Robin for me.[/quote]

I was going to say something to you, but this guy kinda beat me to it. All I'm going to add is a counter to this line.

doclector said:
So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
You're funny. You think I'm like this because I got the happy ending? You think the reason I get so pissed at the people I call cowards is because I can't sympathize? I didn't get the storybook ending, I didn't get the girl. I've been rejected, over and over again. I've been cheated on, I've been cheated with, I've had girls ask me out and then stand me up because they thought it was funny, I've had guys beat me up because their girlfriends made up some story about me creeping them, I almost went to prison when the only girl I've ever had sex with told everyone I raped her. I've asked out ten girls and a few guys since the start of the year, every single one of them has said no. What I can't stand, what makes me think that I'm just so much better than the guy you're describing is that I didn't turn into a ***** over it. I admit, I had rough patches, times where I thought that I didn't deserve to be human, where I thought about ending it. I got over them. From elementary school on upwards, I was bullied. I'm not talking mean words and cliques either, I'm talking the police getting called, hospital trips and broken bones. There hasn't been a single fucking person in my life that tried to make it easy for me, save my grandmama. My confidence comes from the fact that I made it anyway, because I've hit rock bottom and then I got the fuck over it. I'm not going to pretend it's easy, and I don't blame the people that hit bottom. I blame the people that don't try to get over it, the ones that think that it'll never get better. If you'd prefer to sit in the dark room telling yourself that you aren't human because girls don't like you, then fuck off. I've got real problems to face.
 

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You're funny. You think I'm like this because I got the happy ending? You think the reason I get so pissed at the people I call cowards is because I can't sympathize? I didn't get the storybook ending, I didn't get the girl. I've been rejected, over and over again. I've been cheated on, I've been cheated with, I've had girls ask me out and then stand me up because they thought it was funny, I've had guys beat me up because their girlfriends made up some story about me creeping them, I almost went to prison when the only girl I've ever had sex with told everyone I raped her. I've asked out ten girls and a few guys since the start of the year, every single one of them has said no. What I can't stand, what makes me think that I'm just so much better than the guy you're describing is that I didn't turn into a ***** over it. I admit, I had rough patches, times where I thought that I didn't deserve to be human, where I thought about ending it. I got over them. From elementary school on upwards, I was bullied. I'm not talking mean words and cliques either, I'm talking the police getting called, hospital trips and broken bones. There hasn't been a single fucking person in my life that tried to make it easy for me, save my grandmama. My confidence comes from the fact that I made it anyway, because I've hit rock bottom and then I got the fuck over it. I'm not going to pretend it's easy, and I don't blame the people that hit bottom. I blame the people that don't try to get over it, the ones that think that it'll never get better. If you'd prefer to sit in the dark room telling yourself that you aren't human because girls don't like you, then fuck off. I've got real problems to face.

Keep your chin up buddy. Your perseverance is admirable as fuck. Don't cheat though. Bad karma.
 

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Panzer_God said:
itsthesheppy said:
Panzer_God said:
itsthesheppy said:
I just wanna jump in here in support of muffins. When are we going to start talking about the REAL issues?

Cranberry vs. blueberry?

Honestly, I could go with either.
This man knows the real issues, too bad it's so easily solvable. Blueberry muffins are the greatest baked good in the history of everything.
You are WRONG and because you are wrong on the internet, it is my mission from the Great and Powerful Atheisto to destroy you.

Here it comes:

You're stupid and your face and you suck.

Cranberry muffins are like blueberry muffins but with added zing, and since everyone likes zing, you are provably wrong.
LIES! Blueberry muffins have plenty of ZING. They are the most delicious things in all of deliciousness!

Kendarik said:
Allthingsspectacular said:
Women don't like assholes, they're drawn to them. A subtle but meaningful difference.
3) Women like mother - ah, he's a bad boy but I can make him good and yet retain all the bad boy stuff about him somehow
Women want a bad boy who is sweet only for them.

Guys want a good girl who is naughty only for them.

Doclector said:
jackpackage200 said:
But here's the thing, nobody thinks less of you for missing the shots you don't take. Everything thinks you're pathetic if you miss the shot that everyone else got.

Honestly, I'm sick to death of being called a coward for being afraid of rejection. Rejection is a great amount of shame, not to mention mental "pain" for want of a less emo term. Rejection means that yet again, I fail at simply being human.

And y'know what? I'm sick to death of being told to get more self confidence by the same world that spent the first part of my life telling me I'm worthless.

But most of all? I'm sick to death of people thinking there's an answer. The only answers are yes or no. Some of get one, some of us get the other, and some of us will always get the latter. I really wish I could do something about it, but I can't magic myself into something worthy of the title, "human" can I? So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
Can I call you an Eeyore? You're being an Eeyore. I'm almost certain we've had this exact discussion before, and I called you an Eeyore then too. Possibly it was some other Eeyore. Eeyore is fairly awesome so you needn't take it as an insult, but it does mean you are the author of much of your own unhappiness.

You need to accept that "the world" is not speaking to you with one voice. If being confident were easy, or if life always broke in such a way as to flood us with confidence, no one would have your problem. Instead, almost everyone has your problem, including people who seemingly have absolutely no business having it. Everyone is wracked by self doubt. THAT is a fundamental part of the human experience, not "confidence".

You don't need to be all "Dude, I got this" before parkouring up the side of a building every time a girl walks by. You just need to work on keeping your seething storm of loathing and doubt to a dull roar. A little bit of vulnerability and need can be charming. An overwhelming cascade of it is stressful and alarming. People have enough stress and alarm as it is without having to deal with more from you.

HOWEVER. It sounds like you've heard all this before so you're probably going "yada yada yada" in your head and making rude gestures in my general direction so I'll stop trying to help now. Say hi to Christopher Robin for me.
I was going to say something to you, but this guy kinda beat me to it. All I'm going to add is a counter to this line.

jackpackage200 said:
So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
You're funny. You think I'm like this because I got the happy ending? You think the reason I get so pissed at the people I call cowards is because I can't sympathize? I didn't get the storybook ending, I didn't get the girl. I've been rejected, over and over again. I've been cheated on, I've been cheated with, I've had girls ask me out and then stand me up because they thought it was funny, I've had guys beat me up because their girlfriends made up some story about me creeping them, I almost went to prison when the only girl I've ever had sex with told everyone I raped her. I've asked out ten girls and a few guys since the start of the year, every single one of them has said no. What I can't stand, what makes me think that I'm just so much better than the guy you're describing is that I didn't turn into a ***** over it. I admit, I had rough patches, times where I thought that I didn't deserve to be human, where I thought about ending it. I got over them. From elementary school on upwards, I was bullied. I'm not talking mean words and cliques either, I'm talking the police getting called, hospital trips and broken bones. There hasn't been a single fucking person in my life that tried to make it easy for me, save my grandmama. My confidence comes from the fact that I made it anyway, because I've hit rock bottom and then I got the fuck over it. I'm not going to pretend it's easy, and I don't blame the people that hit bottom. I blame the people that don't try to get over it, the ones that think that it'll never get better. If you'd prefer to sit in the dark room telling yourself that you aren't human because girls don't like you, then fuck off. I've got real problems to face.
dude, I never said that. Doclector did. Please do not misquote
 

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Let me just lay this down, I'm a man who used to be "Nice" women "liked" being around me but wouldn't ever sleep with me, I couldn't figure it out for the longest time I just thought that women all just liked assholes, and in my bitterness I turned into a real asshole, not one of these douchey punk assholes, I was a glare hatefully at everyone, treat others like they are dirt and essencially lord my superiority over people, kinda assholes. Then after awhile I saw that I had turned into a raging asshole who was hurting himself and everyone around him with his arrogant hateful selfrighteous bullshit.

So yeah, I took some time figuring a ton of stuff out, one was to look back at the behavioural patterns of all the guys I knew who were good with women, and the behavioural patterns of all the women I'd known in a ton of different situations socially. And I figured out something, it's not that women love assholes, it's that women don't like overly nice guys, because it appears to them that by being that nice all you're doing is wimpily asskissing to try and con sex out of them, even if you aren't, that's how it's percieved.

I was watching, douchey and non douchey guys alike, the ones who get the women have the same qualities, Confidence, a good sense of situational humour, and they don't suck up to women at all, in fact most of them actively ignore most if not all of the female's advances so as to pick the right moment to take control and accept the woman on his terms so that he doesn't look like he's chasing her, it seems at least from observation and experimentation at least the women where I live, love the chase, not to be chased, and they only chase guys who look like they'd be worth the effort, not for money, some of these guys are poorer than me, and I'm broke.

Trick is, if you act a pussy, women won't want you, cuz guess what, they already have one of those, but also don't be an outright dick, love in itself isn't some kinda given thing, or some kinda magical thing, it's the science of subconscious reactions in social situations at it's purest, if you get along then that opens up oppertunities for this science to occur, but if both parts can't play the game the whole thing may as well be nonexistant to start with, for instance, as a guy when I'm acting cocky, and cracking wise a ton, and generally just playin everything as a casual thing where I'm on top, women flock to me, and compete for my attention, as soon as I get unsure in my actions, or let myself think man these women are hot I am out of my league, then it falls apart, why? Because I'm no longer projecting an attractive man, I'm projecting a wussy boy.

For the most part it's posture, articulation, scent, and presentation.

Standing straight and tall works wonders, so does leaning back away from her while conversing(not like really far away, just a slight lean) is enough in most cases to at the very least avoid looking like a desperate wuss.
Take the tempo down a notch, relax, take it slow, rushing things is a turn off, also when you take it slow it's less likely that you'll fumble a word or an action, giving you the look of competence.

Pick a good scent for you, and wear it. This can be anything from cologne to body spray, doesn't matter as long as the scent fits you, this can be a tricky one, but as long as you don't overdo it, almost any scent will be better than none, but yeah with cologne less is more, you don't need a lot of it, because that shit is strong, way stronger than you'll realize, and women prefer scent that draws them in not one that pushes them away, also some people have allergies to strong scents, and it just wouldn't be courteous to cause widespread discomfort just because you're a twat who doesn't know how to apply cologne, the correct way is to dot some on your inner wrist, rub that shit between wrists and rub the inner wrist of each hand onto the neck below the ear, gives you a bit of pervailant scent everywhere that will be close to the woman's face in said situation, after all when you brush her hair asside before a kiss, your wrist is RIGHT THERE, see what I'm saying scent placement is vital, the neck stuff is for obvious reasons, especially if there is any sort of dancing on your evening schedule, yeah classy stuff right?

Last but definately not least, presentation, dress in a way that's both classy and casual, good example, would be in most situations, some comfortable slacks a button up shirt, some nice leather shoes, and a matching belt, this part is key match your belt to your shoes, I know to a lot of men this seems like an unimportant detail, but trust me when I tell you a brown belt with black leather shoes makes you look like an idiot, now if it's chilly add a blazer/dinner jacket if it's really hot out wear a polo shirt or something similiar, no need to be uncomfortable, and it all fits.

This shit is pretty well researched by me, at least here, I hope it helps you guys fix your problems so you can all be awesome, and show women that you are indeed worth a second glance, after all, we are better than the average asshole, they're just better at showing off than we are.

Humour is key too, practise jokes and shit, get humour down, being funny, as long as your repertoir isn't self depreciating at it's core, then you should be fine, women find funny guys more attractive than serious ones. On a scientific level it's because she'll link the endorphin rush she experiences while laughing at your humour to your face in her mind, and you can take it from me, that that link is stronger than any link that could be created by "He's so handsome"(when relating to pure looks), wits and charm trump looks, just remember that, also taking care of personal hygene is a MUST, if you don't clean yourself enough, or keep your teeth brushed, you'll be fucked here, because that's a huuuuuuge thing, which is why I put scent as a vital point.

Anyhow I'm not so good at structured lecturing or whatever, but I know my stuff, I went from guy who couldn't get a date if his life depended on it, to can attract women, and now I'm looking for a woman that I can truly love, which is hard, I'm not too picky, but I have standards, hard to find people around here who fit well with me.

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Doclector said:
But here's the thing, nobody thinks less of you for missing the shots you don't take. Everything thinks you're pathetic if you miss the shot that everyone else got.
How old are you? *checks profile* Ok, so you're my age. That being the case, it really shouldn't be that way any more. If the people you're spending time with still think that way, you need to find new friends dude. Or maybe you just haven't giving the whole dating thing a shot since you were younger, at a time when these things did hold true? Pure speculation of course, and I could be totally wrong.

Honestly, I'm sick to death of being called a coward for being afraid of rejection. Rejection is a great amount of shame, not to mention mental "pain" for want of a less emo term.
Only if you let it be, or if you have unrealistic expectations, say, only approaching girls you think are "prefect" or you have a massive crush on, thereby allowing the stakes to get way too high. As for the pain thing, yes it hurts, yes it's a bit embarrassing, yes it gets easier with experience. Trust me. I may be a girl, but I figured out a long time ago that waiting for a guy to make the first move is just a waste of your time. Also, I'm bi and there are obviously no "rules" when it comes to asking out someone of your own gender. My point being, I've been rejected before. Many, many times. So have most people, even the ones who seem really confident. It's getting used to it and not letting it upset you too much that are key.

Rejection means that yet again, I fail at simply being human.
Ok, now you're just being silly. It doesn't mean that at all. That you think that way indicates that you have some serious problems with your self worth, and you do imply that you've had some bad experiences so maybe it's perfectly understandable. My advice (not that you're asking), again from personal experience, would be that you need to work on liking yourself before you start looking for other people to like you romantically.

And y'know what? I'm sick to death of being told to get more self confidence by the same world that spent the first part of my life telling me I'm worthless.
The world isn't a homogeneous thing that's out to get you. I appreciate that you may have had some shitty experiences in your life so far, but that most certainly doesn't mean that everyone thinks you're "worthless" or that things will never change. Hard to believe, I know, but at the moment you've got a pretty unhealthy way of thinking going on.

But most of all? I'm sick to death of people thinking there's an answer. The only answers are yes or no. Some of get one, some of us get the other, and some of us will always get the latter. I really wish I could do something about it, but I can't magic myself into something worthy of the title, "human" can I? So kindly stop calling me a coward, or an emo, just for realising some kind of reality outside of cliches and rom coms.
Come now, this really is over dramatic. You are "human" and you know it. Once again, you can't dismiss all future experiences based on the ones you've had so far, even if they've been awful. That's no way to live your life. You can get help if you want it, you can change your outlook. It might be difficult, but it can be done.

Sorry if I'm being intrusive, just trying to help.
 

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omega 616 said:
EeveeElectro said:
Panzer_God said:
And it's not like we want a man to be dripping in confidence. We just don't want the sort of guy that sits quietly in the corner with his head down low and not speaking with a right face on.
That's the thing I don't get though, that isn't confidence ... that is mood. Also what does that have to do with how date-able that guy is? Maybe he is one of those brood thoughtful types, just 'cos he is sat "quietly in the corner with his head down low and not speaking with a right face on" doesn't mean he lacks confidence, just a bad day
But someone who is constantly like that, it is to do with his confidence. like I was explaining earlier, I've had bad days where if I'm in a social situation I just sit quietly with my head down.
When my confidence used to be at rock bottom, I'd act like that constantly because I was too scared to speak up. No I only act like that when I'm feeling vulnerable or in a shitty mood.

There's a difference between dark and broody and just plain miserable all the time. Miserable people just bring me down, where I'd probably try to get to know quiet and thoughtful types.
The thing is, I am that kind of person. I sit with my head down (sometimes people watching) quietly thinking or whatever.

I wouldn't say I lack confidence or anything, just like to keep myself to myself. If somebody starts a conversation with me, I'll be cool and talk to them but I wont put myself out there.

Anyway, say the guy is what you described, why would that be unattractive? Wouldn't it be better to go out with that guy or even just talk to him? Whether he has just had a bad day or never had a good one, it would cheer him up and he might be a better partner 'cos he will be more grateful or whatever.

You know the old saying about judging books.
 

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Eamar said:
How old are you? *checks profile* Ok, so you're my age.
Good grief, you guys were both born 2 years before I graduated.

This site makes me feel so bloody old.

Actually being old is making me feel bloody old too.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Eamar said:
How old are you? *checks profile* Ok, so you're my age.
Good grief, you guys were both born 2 years before I graduated.

This site makes me feel so bloody old.

Actually being old is making me feel bloody old too.
Wow, you must be ancient...

I jest, I jest.

Actually, I think this is a pretty cool thing about the internet- you often end up speaking to people you wouldn't normally move in the circles as :)