Poll: Glenn Beck has hitler tourette's
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sad really, the republicans want businesses to have more rights over the workers. In America you could be fired for no reason at all, basically say "you don't have the right attitude" Or "you don't fit here". The bosses can search your bags, keep you in interrogation rooms if your under suspicion of forming a union or anything like that. No health care, because the system is made to extort money from those they cover an drop them if they get sick. Collage is getting way out of reach unless you want a steep dept that you may or may not able to pay off.
was hoping for a real change. I dunno if we may be able to.
was hoping for a real change. I dunno if we may be able to.
Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment ? that which they cannot anticipate. -Sun Tsu
Being that it's been 30 minutes... I declare the debate, and thread hijack over. Discussion over Lewis Black's awesomeness may resume.... now.
By the way, did you hear about that 85 year old woman that Glenn Beck allegedly raped and murdered back in 1990? The assailant was unidentified, but apparently was in tears at the time and kept repeating that he was doing it "because he loved his country so much." It probably wasn't him, but he still adamantly refuses to deny the allegations.
Being that it's been 30 minutes... I declare the debate, and thread hijack over. Discussion over Lewis Black's awesomeness may resume.... now.
By the way, did you hear about that 85 year old woman that Glenn Beck allegedly raped and murdered back in 1990? The assailant was unidentified, but apparently was in tears at the time and kept repeating that he was doing it "because he loved his country so much." It probably wasn't him, but he still adamantly refuses to deny the allegations.
i doubt it though, if he didn't read it before why would he read it now? if he IS......then EPIC WIN.Theseus32 said:
holy shit, someone did there homework in civics, lol, congrats Theseus32 for the fine read!!!Theseus32 said:
edit: or would this count as a debate??
While your right in how socalism develops, its still not going to happen in America any time soon. No single group of people is anywhere near complete, the massive struggle to get the health bill passed is a good example of that. What ever happens it has to get past the sentate and the media, the government wont suddenly become socialist just because a few people want to.Sonic Doctor said:
And then term limits mean that few people will be around long enough to allow for the evolution of a socailist agenda over time, whihc is the only way it would develop.
The Russians were trying to become socialists, and never managed, for a multi tude of reasons, the main one being that a soclist government requires 100% support and co-operation, and Fox news is a great reason of why that wont happen in america
Thank you, Theseus, for joining in order to verbally kick the crap out of that other guy. It was entertaining as hell.Theseus32 said:
Anyway, my favorite Lewis Black joke was the one where he was talking about when Bush went and told a bunch of amputee soldiers that he got a splinter from a tree, but eventually managed to defeat it. The tree. Amputees. Hilarious.
I hate people who defend Glenn Beck and the rest of Fox news, in general Fox news reports stories, but usually just bits of the stories which makes them look right then ignore the ones that quite glaringly make its commentary by pundits completely retarded, its like they just read a headline then made a essay of what to say based on that.
If you want to scare the shit out of people to follow you follow Glenn Beck's example, find one thing someone has in common with a Communist or Fascist, put him in a zone of Fascism and Communism, done that person is then demonized for every stupid reason.
If you want to scare the shit out of people to follow you follow Glenn Beck's example, find one thing someone has in common with a Communist or Fascist, put him in a zone of Fascism and Communism, done that person is then demonized for every stupid reason.
On your problem #1: The problem with your response is that, yes that is the mentality that this country was built on, but not everybody has the desire to do the work to get their. And since they don't want to do the work, they deserve nothing else except basic freedoms. Those freedoms don't include the government handing them things, like free health care.Theseus32 said:
Answer to problem #2: Your head is in the clouds. You can't just magically make health care free to kids. If kids don't have to be paid for, that is lost revenue for the doctors and hospitals, a very large chunk of revenue. In the end someone will have to pay and compensate for that, whether it be adults because the hospitals and medical offices have to raise costs to make up for the lost money so they can pay for the equipment that is used to freely treat the kids. If the compensation doesn't come from that, it will come from cut pay for the medical staff and medical office workers, most like job layoffs. You just can't make stuff free, in the end someone has to pay one way or another.
On government health care, of course the government will be paying for peoples health care. That is what the government is trying to do, it wants to set up a plan so that everybody is insured, but it can't do that because the government doesn't have the right to force insurance companies to lower costs, because insurance companies are businesses, they are part of a private sector industry. Because of that the government has to form its own health insurance company. Then of course this new company has to have money. Where does the government get this money? Well it can't barrow the money because at this point no country is going to lend us money. So the only other place that the government can get the money is from the tax payer.
Your problem #3: George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Alexander Hamilton, John Adams, James Madison, plus one more, I don't remember his name cause he isn't talked about as much, starts with a "J" though. I laugh at your number of ten, because of all the men that helped this country, their were only seven that were the main Founders that helped form this country into what it stands for.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin--
Your problem #4: Your argument fails right off because the your quote definition comes straight from Wikipedia. I would like to see you try and use that in a college paper, mainly because the use of Wikipedia as a source of information is banded in colleges and universities. Depending on the professor, your paper would be an automatic fail or two letter grades off. The reason being, information from Wikipedia can't be trusted, it can be changed by anyone, plus the sources used to write the Wikipedia definition/page can easily be flawed or wrong, and in the case of your quote, extremely flawed. I would recommend picking up a book called "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning" by Jonah Goldberg. In his book he gives the facts of how fascism can be both left or right wing, but in the case of the "American Left" in America it is mostly from the left wing. I'm not basing my argument entirely on his book, but also the sources he used and the hidden histories that the left doesn't want us to know about. Until you read that book and at least some of its sources, I can't take you serious on your argument about fascism. Especially read the chapter "Adolf Hitler: Man of the Left" http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
On problem #5: Yes, yes it is. On of the goals of socialism is to control industries and companies, so it can spread the wealth from them to other people. Socialism can't control industries and companies because they are mostly privately owned. It is an economic freedom that people don't have to worry about the government coming in and tell them where their profits have to go or how they have to be spent. A socialist government will take away money from what should be the private sector and give it to others.
On problem #6: The problem Marx didn't realize was that his plan couldn't work. It is not the companies and industries that were the problem, it was the government. With his plan the government takes money away from the companies and industries and gives it to the people. But in order to do the government has to harm other people. It isn't the companies and industries that are depriving you of money, it is the government.
On problem #7: Already explain, see above.
On problem #8: My point is that exactly that those programs shouldn't be their to help me. People are to live their lives, some will succeed and some will fail, there are no free rides in life. The government may give you free health care or some kind of protection, but in the end some one else has to be pay or be harmed. It's balance/order of life kind of thing.
Also I will add that I don't live in low income housing and I have never collected unemployment. There is a thing called savings, you don't spend all your money just because you have it, you save it for times when you don't have a job. Until I find a job, I live in my brother's apartment and in exchange, I do all of the chores and cleaning. It also doesn't hurt that my dad has to pay 127 dollars in child support to me every month until I graduate college. Even if I didn't have that money I would still have enough money in savings to live off of. It isn't hard conserve and save money especially when I have a job, when concerning eating, I can live off of 40 dollars for two weeks and still eat the things I want to eat. The rest of the money gets save for if I need extra gas money or need car repairs. It just has to be managed properly.
As for your history lesson, it proves nothing. Come back with something real and more substantial. You can't use socialist countries as examples because they have failed or it the long run in the future they will fail.
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alrihgt, break it up, but i would like to say somthing..... sonic. your gettin pwned!!!! by more than one person, so its a pwnedge gang bang, only with logic. LOGIC FTW!!!!!!SinisterSpade|LH| said:
EDIT: and i think im goin to norway now!!!!
EDIT2: lets not bring jesus into this, he's a pretty cool guy, and probably dosent want to get pulled into a forum argument on the internet, he may have better things to do.... maybe