Poll: GM food.... wait.... what?

[Jellly]

My uncle worked there. 2-3 Years of work gone in one night :/

 

[Ghengis John]

because this argument ha enough retards on all sides without me trowing my hat in the ring i would just like to say one thing: GM food is not the same as selective breeding which farmers have done for thousands of years, doesn't mean it's bad but i still would prefer if not everyone buys monsanto seeds that are only good for one season.

This is an excellent post and I approve. A tip of the hat, good sir.

 

[OrenjiJusu]

Even if i did care about GM crops, or greenpeace, they would still be in the wrong here.
They broke into a research lab and destroyed the crop growing in there. Breaking and enetering, destruction of private property. Its not about ethics, they broke the law here.

Yes? Do you dive a nail with a screwdriver or a screw with a hammer? No. A nail is not a screw. A screw is not a nail. Anyone who tells you so is woefully misinformed.

Ever heard the term "Birmingham screwdriver"?

 

[rossatdi]

g'day!

So, I ask you: Was Greenpeace in the right to destroy the crop?

Absolutely wrong - what they've done is attack research they don't agree with because it might disprove their stance. If they had any faith in their 'facts' they wouldn't have done it. Pathetic action that undermines their cause.

 

[Ghengis John]

Ever heard the term "Birmingham screwdriver"?

I'm not from England so no, but considering the internet tells me it's a phrase that's supposed to imply or be synonymous with stupidity or doing something stupid I'll just take it as an extra layer of support. I'll also ask, what's wrong with Birmingham?

 

[FateOrFatality]

To be honest I'm surprised you thought many people on the Escapist would agree with that.

 

[OrenjiJusu]

Ever heard the term "Birmingham screwdriver"?

I'm not from England so no, but considering the internet tells me it's a phrase that's supposed to imply or be synonymous with stupidity or doing something stupid I'll just take it as an extra layer of support. I'll also ask, what's wrong with Birmingham?

its a slang for hammer, somewhere along the line people from birmingham were considered...shall we say luddite-ish. Instead of screwing in a screw they'd say, "Sod it, get me a hammer".

It was more of a direct response to the analogy you used.

 

[Ghengis John]

its a slang for hammer, somewhere along the line people from birmingham were considered...shall we say luddite-ish. Instead of screwing in a screw they'd say, "Sod it, get me a hammer".

It was more of a direct response to the analogy you used.

I gathered. Colloquialisms aside I think my analogy will be fine. It's only conceivable weakness will be walking stereotypes from Birmingham, and their ability to access this site sounds dubious at best.

 

[BlackStar42]

People need to learn more about GM crops. Seriously, some of the arguments are that eating GM food will mutate your DNA, I shit you not.

 

[Brandon237]

Sorry, they broke into a building and destroyed someone else's property, and your father can't see a problem with it?

Anyway, GM foods aren't half as bad as people make them out to be. Hell, the practice has (indirectly) been going on as long as farming, with people selecting the traits they want in future generations of crops/animals, and using samples that show those traits to reproduce. Why is it suddenly a problem when we skip a few generations by making that process more direct?

Given a choice between 'we can have more wheat by constantly only reproducing the bigger, faster growing plants over years' or 'we can have more wheat by making the wheat bigger and faster growing RIGHT NOW', I'll take the latter. It won't suddenly turn you into a horrible carcinogenic blob, I assure you.

This on every point.

This action is... blatantly wrong and illegal at best, and also shows that they are very uneducated[footnote]GM foods = more crop per smaller and less fertile area, thus less farmland and chemicals needed... [/footnote] about their target and that they lack any common decency. Anyone who actually knows what happens with GM foods will realise that it is not some diabolical conspiracy to give everyone thalidomide poisoning from your pea-soup. I wish these people would find within themselves a modicum of common sense and decency damnit!

GM foods are actually healthier and more convenient, they grow better, can be made to suffer less from disease, drought et cetera and give a bigger bang for your buck. To say they are bad or evil is idiotic.

 

[Whateveralot]

Genetically engineered food might not be what they want, but that does not give them the rights to deny the majority of the people to get what they want (and more importantly, NEED. If humanity eventually solves food problems, growing crops will eventually be better for the environment, be more space-efficient, etc. while solving humanity's problems with food as a whole. Look at Somalia now. 20 million people struggling to survive because it didn't rain enough. It might not be fixed entirely, but every step along the way of finding a crop that is eadible and that grows under dry conditions is progress. Progress is what we need.

 

[Temah]

It doesn't matter what they hoped to achieve or why they did it, they have no right to break into a facility and vandalise it, end of story.

 

[Hugga_Bear]

Sorry, they broke into a building and destroyed someone else's property, and your father can't see a problem with it?

Anyway, GM foods aren't half as bad as people make them out to be. Hell, the practice has (indirectly) been going on as long as farming, with people selecting the traits they want in future generations of crops/animals, and using samples that show those traits to reproduce. Why is it suddenly a problem when we skip a few generations by making that process more direct?

Given a choice between 'we can have more wheat by constantly only reproducing the bigger, faster growing plants over years' or 'we can have more wheat by making the wheat bigger and faster growing RIGHT NOW', I'll take the latter. It won't suddenly turn you into a horrible carcinogenic blob, I assure you.

This, the bullshit surrounding GM food is hard to cut through but if you actually care to look all the evidence is there, Greenpeace are being fucking morons.

Apart from anything else, this is their best target? The facility which is testing whether or not GM food has any effect on animals?

Why not, I dunno, the ones where they test cosmetics on animals, or maybe go beat up an oil company, no one likes them. Attacking a facility which is about safety is fucking moronic, even for them.

 

[RagTagBand]

Greenpeace are nothing more than a bunch privileged, self-righteous, hypocritical cunts. Half of their half-baked "Arguments" against GM crops center around "Not knowing what it will do to the environment derp derp!", yet here they are destroying research into exactly that; I guess it would be harder to spout their speculative fear mongering if we actually know its perfectly safe.

GM Crops are, right now, saving lives, millions upon millions of lives, in countries and continents where "Organic" farming has failed them.

A shower of morons, the lot of them.

 

[Gardenia]

GM foods require less resources to cultivate and yields greater harvests.
Cheaper, grows faster, it can even be more nutritious.
It is literally the solution to world hunger.
Yet people do this shit.
It's fucking stupid.

The whole hippie/organic/"green" movement is a religion. Nothing more.
I am not surprised by the actions of Greenpeace, but I am still saddened by them. I think I will have to consume some whale meat this week.

No it's not. It's something different altogether. They may both attain the goal of change in a plant or animal but the process makes all the difference. Think of it this way: A nail and a screw are both fasteners. Yes? A screw is more advanced than a nail. Yes? Do you dive a nail with a screwdriver or a screw with a hammer? No. A nail is not a screw. A screw is not a nail. Anyone who tells you so is woefully misinformed.

Let me translate your reply for you: "It is against God's/Nature's will!"
I'm sorry, science doesn't have room for that sort of thinking.

 

[aashell13]

Let me get this straight: greenpeace broke into a government facility, destroyed a valuable scientific experiment, and you're asking me if they were RIGHT?! Heavens no. they're ecoterrorist freaks who'd put us all back in the stone age if they had their way.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

100% in the wrong.

I've nothing but distain for eco-terrorists, or terrorists of any sort.

 

[Jakub324]

nice one guys, we might relying on GM crops in the future. Thanks for setting us back... retards.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Took me a while to get that GM meant genetically modified. Might I make a suggestion to use the full term first, THEN the abreviation from then on?

OT: Greenpeace was in the wrong. Honestly, I don't see how they can possibly construe this as legal to do.