Poll: Hats : Wearing Indoors. Rude?

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Defective_Detective

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Eh being one of those kids of today who apparently has "no respect." I fail to see why its such a big deal. I personally love Fedoras and Cowboy hats, and when I want to wear one I don't want to have to keep taking it off just to hold it funny.. In this day and age you hardly find a Hatstand, much less would you want to put your hat there in fear of someone stealing it.. This isn't the 30s, we are far less classy and far less respectful. IF you put something down, its bout to be stolen.. :/

If I may ask, where do you keep your overcoat or jacket when indoors, such as a restaurant? Presumably either at a coat stand or hanging off the back of your chair, unless you wear that too. It's the same with your hat. Hang it with the coat, put it on a table, or underneath your chair. You don't need to keep it in your hands.
 

NotAPie

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Personally I don't see a problem with it, then again I always wear a hat indoors (ya know, unless you count me having to take it off in school). I've never heard about it being rude though, that is new to me.
 

Wadders

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I dispise wearing hats, they jsut dont feel right on my head, so I've never had this dilmena.

I guess if I did like wearing them, I'd take them off inside. I have had old fasioned manners instilled in me, and I wouldnt want to appear rude.

Plus, you dont really need to wear hats inside anyways.
 

Fishtie

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Well what should be considered is the reason for the action.

Originally hats were not worn to be stylish, they were practical clothing to provide protection from the elements. A hat could protect you from the sun, rain, bird droppings and so on. However, when you enter a building owned by someone you become a guest of that person and they are your host. (a lot of other hospitality conventions are also being lost, but that's another rant)

Now among the responsibilities of the host is to protect their guests. In removing a hat the guest is setting aside their own protection in deference to the host's. The guest says "I trust you and have confidence in your abilities as a host so I will put myself in your hands with good faith."

A person who does not remove their hat says "I do not trust you or I do not trust your competence, so I will protect myself." Although I suppose these days they could be saying, "I have no idea how to properly wear a hat."... Or both, that's an option too.

I say that not only is such an action rude; it is a deadly insult and if I see any of you not removing your hats in my home then expect a proper response.
 

F'Angus

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Impolite maybe for tradition... I have a habit of forgetting I'm wearing a hat (which is most of the time)... Still I'll take my hat off if asked, generally tend to ignore the impoliteness.
 

JLML

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Defective_Detective said:
As a part of my personal fashion, I enjoy wearing hats. I think they can lend an old-fashioned charm and/or a certain dapperness to an outfit. I enjoy perusing and wearing a variety of hats, from vintage trilbys, fedoras and derbys to the more modern military-style baseball caps, and others.

I like the fact that hats are making a come back in the modern fashion arena, in particular the modernized versions of classic vintage hats like the trilby and fedora. I'm sure there are others on this forum who would agree it's a promising and welcome trend. These hats have seen a particular rise in popularity thanks to their adoption by certain internet and RL celebrities. Prime internet examples would be the trilby-wearing Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation fame, and the fedora-inclined Linkara from Atop the Fourth Wall.

However, even as these classic-era hats have regained popularity, the social rules of hats have fallen by the wayside, it seems.

Typically in the old days, the social convention (at least for men) was that hats were to be worn outside, and inside if it were a open area (such as a train station, hotel lobby or post office) but not inside closed areas (such as a house, in a church, or restaurant). You tipped your hat by slightly lifting it, or touching your fingers to the brim as a sign of respect to passing ladies and other strangers, and took it off when amongst friends, for a funeral procession or when the national anthem plays. For ladies, it was acceptable to keep your hat on except in your own home, for the most part.

Nowadays when I see young men wearing hats, especially classics, these rules have been forgotten, and aren't exactly followed consistently. Whilst some do enjoy the "cool" gesture of tipping hats in polite gestures, they flout the need to take off the hat indoors. Personally, I think it looks quite pretentious, even before considering how rude it is. It makes someone look aloof and above all the uncovered heads. One first-year university student I met refused to take his trilby off when sitting down at a table in a bar to eat. That really irked me.

What does everyone else think? Do you wear a hat as part of your look? If so, what does it look like, and how do you wear it? Should we return to old etiquette?
You sir, you're awesome. Also, I agree with you on most points. I myself wear a hat most of the time, but never when in my home or when eating or anything like that. Also, I never forget the polite tip.

But to more directly answer your questions...

I wear a hat as part of my look (and because I like having something on my head) and it looks great. I wear it like... Wait, is there many ways to wear a hat? I thought you had it on your head... =S
Also, of course we should return to it in some areas, like wearing hats at the dinner table.

Lastly I want to add my own question...

What kind of hat do you wear/like the most? :D
 

Croix Sinistre

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While I'm all for vintage looks and I do harbor some old etiquettes, hat etiquette included, I don't see why someone can't be allowed to wear a hat indoors.

Usually I like to know why something is considered bad, or good in social etiquette, so how does wearing a hat indoors create a rude gesture?

Personally I think that its because a hat is basically a practical head covering. Most people wouldn't wear practical clothing for any reason but the need. Most people don't choose steel toe boots when they're looking to wear some kind of boot, or go for a waterproof trenchcoat when looking for a overgarment. Similarly you would take off your raincoat, or put away your umbrella, or mud covered wooden shoes when you don't need them. Hats also naturally seem to fall into this category.

EDIT: Also, I'd take someone coming to my dinner table wearing his coat, hat and backpack as ready to go somewhere soon. Why would you give someone who is your host the appearance that you don't want to be there or are ready to leave at a moments notice. I can see how someone might think thats rude.
 

Defective_Detective

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JLML said:
You sir, you're awesome. Also, I agree with you on most points. I myself wear a hat most of the time, but never when in my home or when eating or anything like that. Also, I never forget the polite tip.

But to more directly answer your questions...

I wear a hat as part of my look (and because I like having something on my head) and it looks great. I wear it like... Wait, is there many ways to wear a hat? I thought you had it on your head... =S
Also, of course we should return to it in some areas, like wearing hats at the dinner table.

Lastly I want to add my own question...

What kind of hat do you wear/like the most? :D

Question added!
 

DeASplode

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Shops seem to be selling Trilbys/Fedoras yet I hardly see anyone wearing them. Thinking back, only two people so far. One was a student who wore it with this really brightly coloured top, skinny jeans and huge green trainers. Looked quite daft to me.

The other, was a lady in her early twenties (guessing). Wore it with a sort of nice looking, yet not very formal office clothing. I fell in love that day...

Anyway, hats. YAY! I've actually got a Trilby hat, but it's a bit small and sort of cuts off the circulation to half of my head.
 

KeyMaster45

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I never understood the rule, but I was raised on the principle that it's considered polite to remove your hate when entering a building. That being said; the only time I ever really find myself wearing a hat is in the winter and I take it off when I go in buildings because because I don't like my head getting hot.

I'll have to ask my grandparents when I see them on Thursday now as to why hat removal inside is considered polite. Maybe it goes back to when people actually wore wide brimmed hats and taking it off showed that you weren't up to something shift cause people could actually see your eyes. (this is a very vague guess)
 

spartan231490

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It's a social convention, I don't really see why it should be rude. It's just wearing a hat, social conventions change.
 

PhunkyPhazon

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I say it absolutely is not rude to wear a hat indoors: period. I have never even come close to understanding why some of my teachers were so insistent that kids should take off their hat indoors. (Usually the older ones, with a couple exceptions) It's just an accessory for crying out loud, there doesn't seem to be any actual reason for this rule that makes any real sense to me or seems the least bit relevant to today's culture. Why the hell should anyone care if someone wears a hat indoors? How is wearing a hat indoors the least bit offensive? Judging from some of the answers to this topic, it sounds like there actually were some good reasons once...many decades ago. Times change. So really, why the hell shouldn't you wear a hat indoors?

Heck, from what I've seen most of the people who get uppity about it are waaaaaaay more impolite when asking someone to take the hat off then the person wearing the hat.
 

TheWwwizard

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From this moment on I'm considering it rude for people to wear shirts when people enter my home. Why? Why not?
 

Strain42

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I think it depends on what the "indoors" happens to be, and the company you're with. Obviously if you and three of your friends decide to grab a bite at Applebees nobody should care if you have a hat on or not.

But if you're going to Easter sunday brunch at your grandmothers house...yeah. Take off the damn hat, fold your napkin into your lap and make sure you pass the damn rolls when asked.
 

Johnny Reb

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well seeing is the only time i usually where hats is the summer blue garrison cover for my jrotc, and we'll drop you if we see without it one outside, and with it on inside.
 

nuqneh1

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I wear hats indoors and support their use. My usual hat is a replica of the USSCS Nostromo hat from Alien. Not as recognizable as some other hats but it's quite comfortable.