Poll: Have you played Fallout 1, 2 & Tactics?

[TerribleAssassin]

I played the original, couldn't get pass the first five minuites because the controls confused me.


I loved Fallout 3 though, and that's why I intend to pick up New Vegas when possible.

 

[EnglishMuffin]

I have played fallout 1 and 2 and currently playing through tactics. I also played 3 and boy oh boy was that a boring pile of shit. I played fallout 2 first and fell in love with the combat, storytelling and characters. Then I played fallout 1 and the same thing happened except there were some engine age compared to the updated fallout 2. But I still loved it. Tactics is ok so far but no compelling characters and the story is eh.

Fallout 3 was a boring pile of shit. Oh my god was that bad. It has to be the most mindless game I have ever played. The story is not compelling and the characters are badly done. The combat is mediocre and nothing was even balanced. Most of the locations are pointless too. there are a few key places with actual purpose and quests but 90 percent of the landscape is fluff.

I want to get new vegas since it is done by the orignal team that did the first 2 fallout games. I know they improved upon the pile of shit bethesda made so I do want to give it a try and hope it is the fallout 3 I have been waiting for for over 10 years.

 

[Cowabungaa]

I bought them on Steam...

They've aged as badly as Baldur's Gate.

As in, I never made it through my first hour.

How come?

BECAUSE IT BORES ME.

Hell, even Planescape: Torment bored me off of GoG.

Well I got that, no need to be hostile about it, was just curious about the details.

Sure the combat isn't that exciting, but at least it has the huge roleplaying part. I wonder why that's so much more limited in modern RPG's ala Mass Effect and Fallout 3. It's not like you can't have awesome combat and awesome roleplaying freedom at the same time, right?

 

[EnglishMuffin]

I played the original, couldn't get pass the first five minuites because the controls confused me.


I loved Fallout 3 though, and that's why I intend to pick up New Vegas when possible.

The controls confused you? How can you not operate a mouse? It has a left button and a right button. You can operate a control pad but not a mouse????

 

[TerribleAssassin]

I played the original, couldn't get pass the first five minuites because the controls confused me.


I loved Fallout 3 though, and that's why I intend to pick up New Vegas when possible.

The controls confused you? How can you not operate a mouse? It has a left button and a right button. You can operate a control pad but not a mouse????

Because I was expecting to operate the Vault Dweller via WASD controls, which moved the camera, I was then attacked by a Radscorpion, and didn't know how to fight back.

 

[PurplePlatypus]

I bought them on Steam...

They've aged as badly as Baldur's Gate.

As in, I never made it through my first hour.

How come?

BECAUSE IT BORES ME.

Hell, even Planescape: Torment bored me off of GoG.

I believe the question was asking for a little bit more detail. You don?t need to shout, people understand it bores you.

Is the pacing to slow for you, do you not like how the combat worked or are just not keen enough on the story for it to keep your attention?

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I bought them on Steam...

They've aged as badly as Baldur's Gate.

As in, I never made it through my first hour.

How come?

BECAUSE IT BORES ME.

Hell, even Planescape: Torment bored me off of GoG.

Well I got that, no need to be hostile about it, was just curious about the details.

Sure the combat isn't that exciting, but at least it has the huge roleplaying part. I wonder why that's so much more limited in modern RPG's ala Mass Effect and Fallout 3. It's not like you can't have awesome combat and awesome roleplaying freedom at the same time, right?

I'm not into role-playing in my RPGs. I play them for their combat systems. I liked Dragon Age, and had to force myself through Mass Effect 2, as it's really lax on the RPG elements. Not even lax. It's just not even an RPG.

I prefer my RPGs as stuff like Borderlands and Torchlight.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Is the pacing to slow for you, do you not like how the combat worked or are just not keen enough on the story for it to keep your attention?

Didn't like the combat. ^ points to above post ^

 

[Mr.Petey]

Fallout 2 has to be my favourite one. I hated it how you had to be careful with Dogmeat in the first one as during combat he'd run off and get slaughtered, prompting many a reload of the saved game. K9 in Fallout 2 rectified this by being pretty powerful and actually obeying commands...sometimes to a fault.

Even though the first few areas can be harrowing to gain experience and defend yourself, it just takes some good scavenging and flogging of items really, a tactic I picked up in Fallout 3 to make a barrel load of bottle caps

 

[chiefohara]

I played all three.

I Utterly loved Fallout 1...... played it to death with all the variations of characters. What i really liked is when i made a dumb character how all the coversations with the characters including the final boss changed to suit that. I even played a character that killed everything left in the game and the game mechanics and characters reacted accordingly.... a common thing now but back then it was to me at least very very new. That game has a special place in my heart.

I Really enjoyed Fallout 2.... unfortunately it came out when interplay was going out of business so it wasn't a complete game, buggy and glitchy as hell, and places like San francisco seemed really rushed to me. That said ... as soon as i got the bug fixing patch and the children patch on it i spent many a happy hour playing it and found i played it, more than i did fallout 1..... Sadly the games buggyness continues as most PC's are too fast for it these days which means that the game's random encounter mechanic never kicks in and you can never really level up properly anymore

Fallout Tactics.... to be honest i really enjoyed it. I didn't foam at the mouth in fury like the people at No Mutants allowed forums did about it, but i can understand how a beloved universe to them may have seemed hijacked. I played the game through a few times but its no way near as replayable or as versatile as Fallout 1&2

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.... Played it, took it for what it was and enjoyed it because it was a fallout Universe game. Most fans Loath it though, because it was an even more dumbed down version of what the Fallout universe used to be, and a cameo from the character in the first game annoyed the cannon purists to no end i think. I enjoyed it, but for a while saying you enjoyed it was enough to be considered trolling in the No Mutant allowed forums.

Fallout 3.... Loved it, just utterly loved it.

Fallout New Vegas.... Loving it.... You can tell its got the same guys from Fallout 2 working on it, and the references to everything in the original games is making my day everytime i come across a new one

Im finishing up this post right now so i can go back to it

 

[Cowabungaa]

I'm not into role-playing in my RPGs. I play them for their combat systems. I liked Dragon Age, and had to force myself through Mass Effect 2, as it's really lax on the RPG elements. Not even lax. It's just not even an RPG.

I prefer my RPGs as stuff like Borderlands and Torchlight.

Heh, not liking role-playing in role-playing games, that's a good one. A bit like not liking shooting things in an FPS. (ps: Just fooling around here m'kay?)

But fair enough, it's true that the combat in the earlier Fallouts and similar games (especially Planescape, it almost put me off that game as well) haven't stood the test of time. The Dragon Age and KotOR-like style can be seen as the descendant of that, combining both the tactical aspect of the ye olde combat styles and the action and excitement of real-time fighting.

I find it quite odd that you even though you so want the combat systems to be so good you're so much into Oblivion. It has a pretty big batch of flaws and silly things, swords being more like rubber bats than actual swords, and your average guard looking like a pincushion when you're using a bow. Silly game that can be.

 

[Woodsey]

I bought them on Steam...

They've aged as badly as Baldur's Gate.

As in, I never made it through my first hour.

How come?

BECAUSE IT BORES ME.

Hell, even Planescape: Torment bored me off of GoG.

Well I got that, no need to be hostile about it, was just curious about the details.

Sure the combat isn't that exciting, but at least it has the huge roleplaying part. I wonder why that's so much more limited in modern RPG's ala Mass Effect and Fallout 3. It's not like you can't have awesome combat and awesome roleplaying freedom at the same time, right?

I'm not into role-playing in my RPGs. I play them for their combat systems. I liked Dragon Age, and had to force myself through Mass Effect 2, as it's really lax on the RPG elements. Not even lax. It's just not even an RPG.

I prefer my RPGs as stuff like Borderlands and Torchlight.

You can't discount ME2 as an RPG simply because you don't like role-playing.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I'm not into role-playing in my RPGs. I play them for their combat systems. I liked Dragon Age, and had to force myself through Mass Effect 2, as it's really lax on the RPG elements. Not even lax. It's just not even an RPG.

I prefer my RPGs as stuff like Borderlands and Torchlight.

Heh, not liking role-playing in role-playing games, that's a good one. A bit like not liking shooting things in an FPS. (ps: Just fooling around here m'kay?)

But fair enough, it's true that the combat in the earlier Fallouts and similar games (especially Planescape, it almost put me off that game as well) haven't stood the test of time. The Dragon Age and KotOR-like style can be seen as the descendant of that, combining both the tactical aspect of the ye olde combat styles and the action and excitement of real-time fighting.

I find it quite odd that you even though you so want the combat systems to be so good you're so much into Oblivion. It has a pretty big batch of flaws and silly things, swords being more like rubber bats than actual swords, and your average guard looking like a pincushion when you're using a bow. Silly game that can be.

Okay...I'm fine with HAVING role-playing in RPGs. I just don't need it. I'm fine with linear RPGs like FF13, too. Ones that YOU probably don't consider RPGs.

And with Oblivion, most of my love comes from the tons and tons and tons and tons of different playstyles you can utilize. The core combat is far from perfect. But the myriad ways to play keep me coming back. Combining that with the loot generation and enemy scaling does something to me...The enemy scaling allows me to quickly know whether or not my character is going to be effective in the long run, and the loot generation. Well, it's loot.

Hell, you can actually play a mind controlling Illusionist effectively. In fact, it's the best build for high level and high difficulty play. Because your enemies are tougher, and fighting each other means that your weakened stat doesn't matter. And don't get me started on how much I love the "get better as you do it" system.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

You can't discount ME2 as an RPG simply because you don't like role-playing.

^ points above for clarification ^

I don't hate ROLE PLAYING, exactly.

 

[Furious Styles]

I was too young to play them when they were out originally

 

[Arachon]

I loved Fallout 1 & 2, never got far into tactics, it was something about it that made it extremely difficult to play...

Did not like Fallout 3, not at all, it was depressing to see the series being dumbed down to suit the instant-gratification standards of today's games...

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

You can't discount ME2 as an RPG simply because you don't like role-playing.

No. I discount it for being a shooter.

When people say "RPG elements", they DO NOT mean that the game suddenly had moral choices shoved into it. They mean that stats, and stat management, were introduced.

Mass Effect 2 basically had a handful of skill points. And about 6 abilities to put them into. You didn't even have a fucking damage stat for weapons.

 

[Woodsey]

You can't discount ME2 as an RPG simply because you don't like role-playing.

No. I discount it for being a shooter.

When people say "RPG elements", they DO NOT mean that the game suddenly had moral choices shoved into it. They mean that stats, and stat management, were introduced.

Mass Effect 2 basically had a handful of skill points. And about 6 abilities to put them into. You didn't even have a fucking damage stat for weapons.

Ah yes, God-forbid genres evolve in any way.

Moral choices are not "shoved" into the game, they're a gameplay element (along with the conversation system) in their own right.

Christ, it's not like calling GTA IV an RPG for having 2 whole choices stuffed into the tail-end.

 

[Cowabungaa]

Okay...I'm fine with HAVING role-playing in RPGs. I just don't need it. I'm fine with linear RPGs like FF13, too. Ones that YOU probably don't consider RPGs.

And with Oblivion, most of my love comes from the tons and tons and tons and tons of different playstyles you can utilize. The core combat is far from perfect. But the myriad ways to play keep me coming back. Combining that with the loot generation and enemy scaling does something to me...The enemy scaling allows me to quickly know whether or not my character is going to be effective in the long run, and the loot generation. Well, it's loot.

Hell, you can actually play a mind controlling Illusionist effectively. In fact, it's the best build for high level and high difficulty play. Because your enemies are tougher, and fighting each other means that your weakened stat doesn't matter. And don't get me started on how much I love the "get better as you do it" system.

I do, but they're a very different breed, that's for sure. I hate the label role-playing game anyway, as you do that in pretty much every game out there; play a role, whether you're shooting things or hacking monsters to pieces or whatever. You're in the seat of a character, controlling what he does. You do that in FF13, every Fallout game, hell in games like BF1942 or whatever as well.

But even with the more traditional useage of the RPG laebel I'd call ME2 an RPG, simply because it has a certain degree of decisionmaking and characterbuilding.

As for Oblivion, that I can wholeheartedly understand. It's just not something I've really noticed myself, as I'm sadly not very creative with character creation. I wonder how my smug Breton Spellsword is going to turn out though.