As long as there is personal opinion there will always be "Heavier" music. People can think of the brutal style of death metal as heavy, a simple thrash anthem from Metallica or Slayer as heavy, an epic melodic power song by say Amon Amarth some would consider very heavy or just simply even earlier stuff like Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath and the like will be considered heavy. People will always cherish what they really love in their music. "Heavier" music is and always will be opinion differentiating from person to person.
Poll: 'Heavier' music,can it last?
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I too want rap to disappear ¬_¬zombiepandaman said:
but if 'heavier' music disappeared,as a guitarist,id be kinda bored and very disappointed...
Im not saying that there is anything wrong with learning or playing any classic rock songs or whatever,but they only go so far on the guitar,wheareas heavier music has broadened guitar playing vastly from where classic rock left off,which is just one more reason i love it =D
I really have no idea if today's 'heavier' music will become 'timeless'. I know I will be still listening to the music I grew up on till I can't anymore, if the masses wish to join me then fine.
It's like a memory, it can't die if you don't let it.
It's like a memory, it can't die if you don't let it.
Well, it's more that that kind of music has content that the FCC finds... undesirable.D3athBat said:Ah,well thanks for clearing that upand i accept that you dont particularly like it,many people dont,and you make a point about it being too heavy for the radio stations,but maybe the radio needs to broaden its horizons?or dedicate time for that music or whatever...
i personally think it is their best album. much better than that horrid "city of evil" abomination.Siuss said:
As a performer, writer, and passionate fan of "heavy" music, i personally believe it will last. Black Sabbath has been around for 30 years, and songs like "Paranoid" and "Iron Man" are timeless classics as far as i'm concerned. you also have to remember that music like Pink Floyd, The Who, and Led Zeppelin paved the road for "heavy" music. so as long as bands such as those are remembered, "heavy" music will continue to thrive. and, just because it's not on the radio, doesn't mean it is not good.
I laugh at people who say Classical music won't last much longer.
People have been listening to it for how many centuries now? Just because YOU don't know anyone who likes it doesn't mean everyone in the world lacks focus. Go drink another Red Bull.
Still, I have a hard time picturing current bands living up to the legend of bands like Pink Floyd (to which he listened as he wrote this), Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, and the rest.
That's not to say that modern rock bands are all bad. I'm not usually one for this pseudo-genre*, "Metal" that everyone keeps talking about, but there are some nice examples. (I don't know what you call Evanescence, but I love some of their stuff.)
Just bear this in mind: We hear all kinds of this music now, but barely any of it will survive in the coming decades. Back in the '60's and '70's, crap music was everywhere. But you just don't hear any of it anymore (except AC/DC**), because it was not deemed worthy of continuation.
*I prefer not to buy into this genre craze. Stop trying to categorize everything!
**Did I say that or just think it?
People have been listening to it for how many centuries now? Just because YOU don't know anyone who likes it doesn't mean everyone in the world lacks focus. Go drink another Red Bull.
Still, I have a hard time picturing current bands living up to the legend of bands like Pink Floyd (to which he listened as he wrote this), Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix, and the rest.
That's not to say that modern rock bands are all bad. I'm not usually one for this pseudo-genre*, "Metal" that everyone keeps talking about, but there are some nice examples. (I don't know what you call Evanescence, but I love some of their stuff.)
Just bear this in mind: We hear all kinds of this music now, but barely any of it will survive in the coming decades. Back in the '60's and '70's, crap music was everywhere. But you just don't hear any of it anymore (except AC/DC**), because it was not deemed worthy of continuation.
*I prefer not to buy into this genre craze. Stop trying to categorize everything!
**Did I say that or just think it?
So the FCC finds problems in heavy music that can have meaningful lyrics,even if theyre not 100% audible,but still lets Pop music get away with crap likeFlying-Emu said:Well, it's more that that kind of music has content that the FCC finds... undesirable.D3athBat said:Ah,well thanks for clearing that up
''guns dont kill people,rappers do''
''ill take my clothes off and it will be shameless,because everyone knows thats how you get famous''
''Ooooh you touch my ding ding dong''
''smack my ***** up''
''feet down,ass up,thats the way i like to fuck''...for the masses to hear?
total BS...
Or it could be that it has alone had the most lasting influences on art and cinema, by a long run. That's just the way I see it. The last three decades' worth of film scoring wouldn't have been the same without Stravinsky, Beethoven, Wagner, Saint-Saens, and Bach. It's penetrated Western culture to an insurmountable degree.Siuss said:
I wouldn't know a whole lot about rock, pop, and metal's impact, but I reckon it will rise and fall as Classical stands strong. The modern stuff is just kind of fad-defined. For the most part.
Id disagree with you that City Of Evil was 'horrid'...i mean i love STST too,but the guitar work on CoE was brilliant.However,i totally agree with your statement that 'just because its not on the radio, doesnt mean it is not good'...but even if the radio is failing 'heavier' music,at least we have some decent music channels on television these days that show some of this sort of stuff...though they are being flooded with shit like Fall Out Boy,Panic!At The Disco etc...DoExMetal said:
Duuuuude you are SO right...TheNecroswanson said:A-fucking-men brother.D3athBat said:So the FCC finds problems in heavy music that can have meaningful lyrics,even if theyre not 100% audible,but still lets Pop music get away with crap likeFlying-Emu said:Well, it's more that that kind of music has content that the FCC finds... undesirable.D3athBat said:Ah,well thanks for clearing that up
''guns dont kill people,rappers do''
''ill take my clothes off and it will be shameless,because everyone knows thats how you get famous''
''Ooooh you touch my ding ding dong''
''smack my ***** up''
''feet down,ass up,thats the way i like to fuck''...for the masses to hear?
total BS...
If you think harder metals won't last, look at all the whores* and "thugs" whom get record deals every day. if Snoop Dogg has lasted this long, I have no doubt Jedi Mind Trick will last.
And as such, if Pink Floyd still runs strong, Avenged Sevenfold will continue to whoop your ear lobes in the future.
*Yes. The Pussycat Dolls are a bunch of whores. It's undeniable.
I thought that this thread would fail,but ive heard from a lot of smart people....some arrogant dicks too...but hey,a first thread is a first thread =P
And The Pussycat Dolls remark made me lol xD
Well whether you see no good in it or not, if it weren't for those bands there would be no death metal. What do you think the best Death album is?Fatalis67 said:
All of that is too freaking true. A lot of these people don't have common sense at all.D3athBat said:So the FCC finds problems in heavy music that can have meaningful lyrics,even if theyre not 100% audible,but still lets Pop music get away with crap likeFlying-Emu said:Well, it's more that that kind of music has content that the FCC finds... undesirable.D3athBat said:Ah,well thanks for clearing that up
''guns dont kill people,rappers do''
''ill take my clothes off and it will be shameless,because everyone knows thats how you get famous''
''Ooooh you touch my ding ding dong''
''smack my ***** up''
''feet down,ass up,thats the way i like to fuck''...for the masses to hear?
total BS...
I laugh when I see people say how much they love metal and then they say a bands name like Black Dahlia Murder or Lamb of God. I guess most of you are just 13 year old kids who just discover "metal" and don't know anything but what the t-shirts say at Hot Topic. I've only been listen to metal for about 10 year and I try to listen to just about any metal band that I could find. Most of the best stuff was made in the early 80s and died in the late 80s early 90s. There are some good bands that are out today, but they are few and far between.
The reason heavy metal will always be around is because it is not part of the mainstream, pop culture (excluding some metal bands that have been hugging the spotlight). The majority of people who listen to "radio-friendly" music do not surround themselves with music all day, every day. But from my personal experiences with fellow metalheads, metal is a lifestyle. I'm not saying everybody who listens to metal has to have long hair and worship death, but they constantly envelop themselves in music and that will guarantee metal's survival.
Metal will always have its underground following that will never die.
And yes, the Pussycat Dolls are a bunch of whores.
Metal will always have its underground following that will never die.
And yes, the Pussycat Dolls are a bunch of whores.
It'll last, good example - Metallica, they've been going since the early eighties, and still have a strong fan base, slayer, megadeth, testament, there's loads of older bands that are heavy and are still going.
I noticed that most of the bands you posted where hardcore type bands, not really my cup of tea, I'd say heavy bands where things like Opeth, SYL etc.. and no offence, but most of those bands are pretty mainstream, they're are getting to be more and more pretenders (not accusing you) that don't seem to really "get" metal, I mean the aggression just isn't there anymore (or at least not like it used to be).
I noticed that most of the bands you posted where hardcore type bands, not really my cup of tea, I'd say heavy bands where things like Opeth, SYL etc.. and no offence, but most of those bands are pretty mainstream, they're are getting to be more and more pretenders (not accusing you) that don't seem to really "get" metal, I mean the aggression just isn't there anymore (or at least not like it used to be).