Poll: Homosexuality
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Do I "support homosexuality"?
Odd phrasing. It sounds like I'd be fund-raising for a gay nightclub on every street.
I'm indifferent to homosexuality. I've flirted with bisexuality in the past, but it's not really my thing, as it turns out.
I support gay rights, certainly.
Odd phrasing. It sounds like I'd be fund-raising for a gay nightclub on every street.
I'm indifferent to homosexuality. I've flirted with bisexuality in the past, but it's not really my thing, as it turns out.
I support gay rights, certainly.
You do realize your taking the position of attacking my beliefs right? At this point I'd rather not keep typing religion and just put out there that I'm Christian. If Christianity is to be believed then everything God has said (and by extension everything in the Bible) is law. I personally don't see why He chose to make this particular thing wrong, but I do understand the reasoning for it. Also, don't go into "Well what if it is wrong?" your word is as good as mine and thats an entirely different topic.Woodsey said:
I'm with the OP here in supporting homosexuality. Let the masses love whichever gender they chose so long as everyone involved is aware of all the implications and consenting. The only things I'd object to about it would be making moves, verbal or physical, on people who don't want it and make it clear.
Supporting, I guess, in that I don't really care what anyone's sexuality is. At all. It doesn't affect my interactions with them, so it makes no difference to me.
Our dog is either lesbian or bisexual looking at her behaviour towards the other ladydog that sometimes visits so I don't see why it should be any less natural in humans.
The only rational criticism of homosexuality I can think of is that homosexuals cannot produce children by mating with partners of the same gender as themselves but the same is true for people who mate with sterile people so there's hardly any moral argument to be made from that.
The only rational criticism of homosexuality I can think of is that homosexuals cannot produce children by mating with partners of the same gender as themselves but the same is true for people who mate with sterile people so there's hardly any moral argument to be made from that.
As I've said before there are many people who think Jesus was gay, and from other sources I've been told that the whole part of being gay was wrong was added much much later in Roman times when Christianity needed more followers (It's common belief that many Romans had openly gay relationships) and this was added to stop this and also encourage heterosexual relationships, so there would be more Christians.Russirishican said:
Again, I have nothing against your religious beliefs and actually I wish more Christians took your view of not having a problem with gays.
What.. not again..
Just for once can we have a poll about whether we support kissing on the mouth or oral sex or fingering. Are we still so obsessed with tallying up the precise numbers of people who support or have a problem with what is ultimately a silly and largely meaningless permutation within the incredibly diverse spectrum of human sexuality.
Sarpedon, thank you. Thank you so much for being supportive of gay and bisexual people. It means a huge amount to me, and probably even more so for the people you meet. But this thread is going to end with the same minority of people rearing their ugly heads to say blistering offensive things and then whining that they aren't being allowed to voice their 'opinion', which I do excessive credit by even describing in such terms.
Because, and note here I am attacking your beliefs, not your faith, I do not see how you can make that claim.
I do respect your attitude overall though. Thank you for being so relatively open minded.
Just for once can we have a poll about whether we support kissing on the mouth or oral sex or fingering. Are we still so obsessed with tallying up the precise numbers of people who support or have a problem with what is ultimately a silly and largely meaningless permutation within the incredibly diverse spectrum of human sexuality.
Sarpedon, thank you. Thank you so much for being supportive of gay and bisexual people. It means a huge amount to me, and probably even more so for the people you meet. But this thread is going to end with the same minority of people rearing their ugly heads to say blistering offensive things and then whining that they aren't being allowed to voice their 'opinion', which I do excessive credit by even describing in such terms.
Where does He say this?Russirishican said:
Because, and note here I am attacking your beliefs, not your faith, I do not see how you can make that claim.
I do respect your attitude overall though. Thank you for being so relatively open minded.
Homosexuality is not a good thing, its a sexuality.
Homosexuality is not a bad thing, its a sexuality.
Before I dive into my little rant this isn't directed at anyone in particular.
For something to be good or bad (at least in my eyes) the actions it causes must either hinder or help lives or something in general. But sexuality is just a sexuality, the sky is blue and the grass green. Now peoples fear of homosexuality, thats a bad thing as that does nothing but hurt people just like most other irrational fears.
The sooner humanity gets over this concept the importance of being the same the better, we're all different get over it.
Homosexuality is not a bad thing, its a sexuality.
Before I dive into my little rant this isn't directed at anyone in particular.
For something to be good or bad (at least in my eyes) the actions it causes must either hinder or help lives or something in general. But sexuality is just a sexuality, the sky is blue and the grass green. Now peoples fear of homosexuality, thats a bad thing as that does nothing but hurt people just like most other irrational fears.
The sooner humanity gets over this concept the importance of being the same the better, we're all different get over it.
I support homosexuality because I have many friends that are gay and I know what kind of problems they face all the time. Also because I don't want to be the guy that looks back years from know, thinking to myself, "I can't believe I treated these people that way" or "I can't believe I just sat back wand watched this happen and didn't stand up for my friends". I guess it just seems like the right thing to do but I don't resent anybody who disagrees due to religious beliefs. It's really just the people who make a point of oppressing gays because they think gays are out to destroy our families. Last time I checked, there wasn't a band of gay bandits roaming the countryside, ruining our livelihoods.
Way to go, you missed the point. I didn't say they were good, in fact I don't like quite a few of their songs because they're too slow for my tastes. I said talented. Talented as in skilled. As in they play complicated rifts and have evidently put a lot of time and effort into their music. Good has nothing to do with it. Remember that part where I said they were talented "REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH YOU LIKED THEM." It's like Bach or Leonardo De Vinci; You don't have to like it, but it took skill to do (note: Led Zeppelin is not at the level of these artists this is an analogy). Furthermore one post is not a profile for my entire world view; I don't view everything too much in black and white, stop talking about me like you know me. I mentioned a few topics that had concrete right and wrong and I in no way white washed that over every topic ever. I was making points about certain cases and certain things, there is plenty of places where neutrality/gray area is fine (see: abortion, US involvement in the Libyan rebellion, video game preferences, age of consent etc.) my point is that homosexuality is not one of those.AndyFromMonday said:
Meh its peoples choice, what right do we have to say they cant do what they want? its consenting sex between 2 adults and should be treated as such.
But in saying that I never feel comfortable around gay people, and always get really grossed out whenever I see my gay friends getting off, and mincing queens (for want of a better phrase) really annoy me.
So I guess my stance is "do what you want, just don't do it in front of me"
But in saying that I never feel comfortable around gay people, and always get really grossed out whenever I see my gay friends getting off, and mincing queens (for want of a better phrase) really annoy me.
So I guess my stance is "do what you want, just don't do it in front of me"
I appreciate your respect of my views, thank you.AnkaraTheFallen said:
There are many denominations of Christians and if history is any evidence than some of those have deviated far from the original, so this topic could have been interpreted in any number of ways throughout the years. The Bible doesn't have a whole lot on the subject, it basically says "Don't do it with the same sex." It doesn't even say "Don't have a close relationship with the same sex." Just as long as its the right kind of relationship. I think its fine people of the same sex like each other outside of Christianity. But if a homosexual I knew said they were going to become dedicated to Christianity than, as bad as it sounds, I would tell them your gonna have to fight that urge.
The moment THIS very topic stops being a "big deal", homosexuality will REALLY become "normal" It's just love and sex between two members of the same gender, that's that.