Poll: Homosexuality

[Dr. Pepper Unlimited]

I support it 100%. I see no problem with it.

 

[TheGuiggleMonster]

Personally I don't believe that it is genetic or whatever. There must be some psychological trigger to it, and when something is psychological you can never be 100% certain that is voluntary or not. I mean, in families with multiple boys, the younger boys are statistically more likely to turn out homosexual, so I very much doubt it's genetic, and frankly I wouldn't see the point in an allele which made it far less likely for the carrier to reproduce or why it's so common.

Actually, the very fact that the younger males of families with multiple male children are more likely to be gay is evidence to support a genetic influence in determining sexual orientation. I stumbled across a humorous video on youtube, I and think it explains it pretty well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMjXucTFaM.

Lol... That is not genetics. In science, it would be considered an environmental factor. The genetics are determined at meiosis and fertilisation which happen before pregnancy, and after the embryo is formed, there is no genetic change. Your video also provides no explanation as to why antibodies are more likely to make the fetus turn homosexual.

 

[Evil Moo]

I say I'm indifferent, though with the same reasoning that most people here say they support it. Everyone should have the right to live how they wish and I don't care as long as no one is being hurt.

The only reason I'm not saying I support it is because the wording of that makes it sound to me like I'm driving around shouting at strangers to mix things up a bit sexuality wise, all hail the homosexual revolution and all that, and that would be absurd...

 

[Raeil]

I actively support equality for all who are encompassed by the LGBT banner. Admittedly, I'm under it, but until I started coming out I didn't realize just how much inequality there still is for those who don't identify as straight. Should LGBT people have more rights than heterosexuals? Absolutely not! However, we should have the same rights, and until we're there, I see no reason to stop activism.

 

[AnkaraTheFallen]

Well I am gay so I'd be a bit of a hypocrite if I was against it.

Saying that I was brought up as a strong believing christian and told that being gay was a sin for most of my young life, so that really messed me up when I found out I was gay. >.<

same.

living with religious fanatics so.....not leaving ma closet anytime soon

Sadly I know the feeling, I'm not in any hurry to tell my parents.
Makes having a relationship with my girlfriend very difficult at times, but thankfully her family are far more open minded.

 

[tigermilk]

Homophobia is gay, that is all.

 

[Jack T Robyn]

Indifferent, as Dennis Miller put it best:

"There is nothing more of interest to me than my orgasm, and nothing less of interest to me than your orgasm."

That said, I do strongly oppose the oppression of homosexuals, or of anyone based on adult consentual sexual preference.

 

[WorldCritic]

I'm pretty indifferent about it. I have friends who are gay and I've gone to a couple support homosexuality events before simply because a friend asked me to go with them, but I usually don't pay much attention there and just kind of stay on the sidelines.

 

[Zay-el]

As long as they don't want me to join in, I'm not bothered.

 

[Woodsey]

Surely its more a matter of not supporting discrimination, as opposed to supporting homosexuality? What is there to support about it? People don't choose, and its not right to discriminate against them for something so irrelevant.

I'm indifferent, I don't support it, because I think its wrong. But honestly, I couldn't care less. I'm certainly not going to persecute gay people, I treat them the same as anyone else.

Why do you think it's wrong? I'm just curious.

My religion, although personally I don't see what is wrong with it, I put my religion before my own agenda. However my religion doesn't say, "Hate homosexuals with a fiery passion." like most members of my denomination would have you believe. So I don't. Basically I'm completely fine with gay people I just wouldn't make a choice to be one myself.

So you actively choose to not think for yourself? Remarkable. And people don't choose, do we honestly need to go over the (lack of) logic regarding that?

Knew there would be hate coming for this.

I do think for myself, I wouldn't believe in something I knew nothing about, I know why my religion says its wrong, and I made my decision to follow that. Besides, why is it any of your concern, because I've made it pretty clear that I'm not going to go around shoving my religion down your collective throats.

You said yourself you don't see a problem with it, yet you will put forward that opinion it is "wrong" just because your religion says so. And I quote: "I put my religion before my own agenda." Its not even an agenda, you're just absorbing someone else's (several 1000 years old and completely irrelevant to today) opinion... just because.

And it bothers me because its that sort of stupidity that means we have to have threads about supporting homosexuality in the first place.

You do realize your taking the position of attacking my beliefs right? At this point I'd rather not keep typing religion and just put out there that I'm Christian. If Christianity is to be believed then everything God has said (and by extension everything in the Bible) is law. I personally don't see why He chose to make this particular thing wrong, but I do understand the reasoning for it. Also, don't go into "Well what if it is wrong?" your word is as good as mine and thats an entirely different topic.

That's because the personal belief of "I don't like gays because other people tell me so" is fucking stupid. Considering you DO get to choose your religion, I don't really see why you've chosen one that means you have to ignore what you really think.

I know what it is I believe, I'm just not quite sure how to put it into words, not that I have to explain it to you anyway, but I will for the sake of discussion. You seem to be doubling back on my own words though. I said I thought that it was wrong, not that I don't like gay people.

OK. That's because the personal belief of "being gay is wrong because other people tell me so" is fucking stupid. And actually, you said you had no problem with it, but you'd ignore your own opinion because your religion tells you to.

I am against homosexuality. Part of the reason is because I am christian and in the Bible it clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord.(in Leviticus)
I by no means hate gay people at all I see no reason for it at all, and God tells to only hate the sin but love the sinner
It also is definately is not gentic because I know a pair identical twins, one is gay and the other is not. If it was genetic they would BOTH be gay . Homosexuality is a choice, you chose to be gay.

Just because it is more likely for identical twins to have highly similar personalities does not make it a definite.

Why would anyone choose to be gay?

You can't have kids, you're unfairly treated in law even in western cultures, you're discriminated against, and you get people of various religions telling you you're a sinner.

 

[Kaitlin Taylor]

I am definitely Pro-gays in a more gay boys always. Gay and lesbian couples are adorable and Boys love anime is hot.

 

[Russirishican]

Personally I don't believe that it is genetic or whatever. There must be some psychological trigger to it, and when something is psychological you can never be 100% certain that is voluntary or not. I mean, in families with multiple boys, the younger boys are statistically more likely to turn out homosexual, so I very much doubt it's genetic, and frankly I wouldn't see the point in an allele which made it far less likely for the carrier to reproduce or why it's so common.

Actually, the very fact that the younger males of families with multiple male children are more likely to be gay is evidence to support a genetic influence in determining sexual orientation. I stumbled across a humorous video on youtube, I and think it explains it pretty well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMjXucTFaM.

Lol... That is not genetics. In science, it would be considered an environmental factor. The genetics are determined at meiosis and fertilisation which happen before pregnancy, and after the embryo is formed, there is no genetic change. Your video also provides no explanation as to why antibodies are more likely to make the fetus turn homosexual.

I believe that it is purely environmental factors that determine someone's sexuality. I hate to say it because it always stirs up trouble, but I think being straight is the 'default' way humans are wired. That doesn't make being gay any less right though, unless you have a reason to believe otherwise. Any number of environmental factors can contribute to change someones sexuality, you can even make a conscious choice to change it yourself over time, sort of like changing a habit.

 

[ace_of_something]

I am against homosexuality. Part of the reason is because I am christian and in the Bible it clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord.(in Leviticus)
I by no means hate gay people at all I see no reason for it at all, and God tells to only hate the sin but love the sinner
It also is definately is not gentic because I know a pair identical twins, one is gay and the other is not. If it was genetic they would BOTH be gay . Homosexuality is a choice, you chose to be gay.

Identical twins can still have different genetics, I've seen a pair where one has a serious learning difficulty from birth (sorry I can't remember the conditions name) and the other doesn't, but they are identical in every other way. A more basic example would be DNA, identical twins still have different DNA just like any siblings do.
And as someone who is gay, I've never though of it as a choice, if it was I would choose to be straight most probably after all the issues I've had at home over it.

Speaking as someone who is and has an identical twin. True Idents are much rarer than most people think. Second our DNA is close enough that we can easily be mistaken for each other should something come up we're both deputies/cops so our DNA is on file and I know when mine was being filed in the NDIS it showed that I was him at first. We both have lupus and are dyslexic. Our fingerprints are different though because that occurs in the womb or something and since about age 8 we always made it a point to cut our hair differently. Different tattoos too. Also, we have magical powers.

To Relaver:
Because someone says it's 'not a choice' doesn't mean they're saying it's genetic. It means they're saying it's an integral part of their being. You can't change it.

 

[Bakuryukun]

I'm indifferent, I don't support it, because I think its wrong. But honestly, I couldn't care less. I'm certainly not going to persecute gay people, I treat them the same as anyone else.

Why do you think it's wrong? I'm just curious.

My religion, although personally I don't see what is wrong with it, I put my religion before my own agenda. However my religion doesn't say, "Hate homosexuals with a fiery passion." like most members of my denomination would have you believe. So I don't. Basically I'm completely fine with gay people I just wouldn't make a choice to be one myself.

hooray for dogma over personal thought? Sorry if that was rude, but I just really don't understand that way of thinking, if you don't personally think it's wrong you shouldn't be swayed by pressure of your faith. But that is of course just my opinion, and to each their own I suppose.

As for me I have no problem with it at all, I'm not really a fan of when people act flaming about it, but I don't like it when anyone falls face first into a stereotype only to complain about stereotyping later, if your gay you don't have to let that one trait about you define you completely. I have gay friends who pretty much say the same thing.

 

[Iznat]

I support homosexuality. I see no issue with it, and cannot fathom why it is actually a huge deal in some places. Yes, it is true that same-sex couples cannot reproduce, but if anything, that may be a good thing. Too many unplanned babies are about.

I have no issue with gay lifestyles (hey, a man who'll come clothes shopping with me) or culture, or anything. Hell, even dolphins have been known to partake in homosexual acts, and straight, white conservatives LOVE dolphins

 

[A-Heart-Of-Gold]

I support homosexuality, but in honest truth I don't care what people are!

If you are bi then be bi, if your gay be gay, if your straight be straight!

I honestly don't see why we have to label everyone can't we all be free to love someone with out someone putting a label on people?!

 

[Rascarin]

I am against homosexuality. Part of the reason is because I am christian and in the Bible it clearly states that homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord.(in Leviticus)
I by no means hate gay people at all I see no reason for it at all, and God tells to only hate the sin but love the sinner
It also is definately is not gentic because I know a pair identical twins, one is gay and the other is not. If it was genetic they would BOTH be gay . Homosexuality is a choice, you chose to be gay.

Right.

1. Homosexuality is NOT a choice. I'm a lesbian, I battled with my sexuality for years, trying to convince myself that I was straight, hadn't met the right man, etc. Fact is, men repulse me. Women turn me on. I don't choose the way my body reacts to other people. I was very religious, but I could not force myself to be straight, because I am not.

2. As for Leviticus, it also demands animal sacrifice (1:9), no contact with menstruating women (12:19-24), advocates slavery (25:44), calls shellfish an abomination (11:10), forbids cutting the hair around the temples (19:27), touching the skin of a dead pig (11:6-8) and wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (19:19).

What do you have to say about those?

 

[Rockchimp69]

The question is simple. Don't forget to add WHY you feel the way you do.

For my own vote, I'm a strong supporter of homosexuality, though I'm by no means gay myself. I firmly believe that, as long as it's not hurting anyone else, people should be able to live their lives however they damn well please. This includes being able to love and marry whomever they please.

So, escapists, How do YOU feel? And remember, tell us why you feel that way.

EDIT: Just so people will stop spouting it off, I realize that this is rather poorly phrased. I think most of you can glean my meaning though, without needing to point out that I could have worded this differently.

What if someone's intolerance meant that someone else being gay hurt them? They didn't CHOOSE to hate gays, they just do?

So many questions, so little answers ):