Not really anything original to say after somebody else takes the only reasonable response...So I quote ftw.DeadlyYellow said:
You actually ignored his qualifiers. He hasn't changed his argument, you're points are just outside of what he'd said. More so, he acknowledged some people are not responsible and further clarified that he meant only those he deemed 'responsible'.Jonabob87 said:
Every country is different, culture, legaility/cost of abortion and contraception and even the economy are all massive factors.
Also, the risks are fucking minuscule. A responsible woman who sleeps around will be on the pill, which if she's taking it correctly has a failure rate of 0.3%. A responsible man who sleeps around will insist on using condoms, which have a failure rate (if used properly) of around 2%[footnote]both estimates ate failure rate are based on 'the pill' and 'condom' wikipedia articles.[/footnote]. This means that, any two sensible people who have regular, random sex will have something in the region of a 0.006% chance of getting pregnant (I believe that's 6 people in 1 million). Of course, this number can be further reduced by the use of other less common contraceptives.
Don't take this as a dig at you, but don't make general arguments, particularly on an international forum, based on your own opinions. It makes you look very stupid when you claim something based on your own experience and have the exact opposite claimed in a source you provide. Only about 35% of single custodial parents have never been married (this is according to your own source), and it would be absurd to assume that the entire statistic (or even a large portion of that statistic) is made up of mothers who are not or where not (at the time of conception) in a relationship.
As for the STDs, assuming we're talking about responsible people then it's a non issue. A responsible person would be unlikely to contract an STD due to the use of condoms, however in the event that they did get infected with something, they would no doubt do the sensible thing and see a doctor and stop having casual sex with strangers. So, the only way a responsible person could infect another responsible person with an STD is if they didn't know they were infected, which seems like a fairly unlikely turn of events. Sure, it's possible, but given the already relatively low rates of sexually transmitted disease (which I can only assume is common to the entire western world). I just can't see it being a huge problem, especially with the deafening silence from the media (if it was even a remote problem with society the media would be crapping on about the dangers of sex rather than the dangers of binge drinking).
As demonstrated above, your numbers are way higher than they should be. You would in fact have to have sex over 160,000 to have an expected number of pregnancies of over 1[footnote]Again, this is based on the wikipedia statistics, it may vary by a few thousand off.[/footnote].
In what sense to promiscuous people behave irresponsibly or immaturely? I've never heard or seen anything to suggest that people who have sex outside of a long term relationship are any less responsible or mature than those who do it within and, unsurprisingly, sex is a huge part of most adults lives. In fact I've read, more than once that bad sex is the reason for most marriages breaking up. I'm not sure how obvious it is to the primarily younger demographics on internet forums, but love doesn't work like it does in a disney film.
