Poll: how many pc gamers hate the half life series?
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I tried a demo of Shogo around the time it came out and didn't think a whole lot of it. No One Live Forever 2, on the other hand, is one of the very best games hardly anyone played.Owyn_Merrilin said:
The original Unreal deserves a bit more praise then it gets too. In a way, it's quite similar to Metroid Prime in that it points you in a vague direction and lets you find the story in data pads if you feel like it (though it's happily linear rather then several big connected environments)
The demo probably wouldn't have given you a good idea of what the game had in store; it was their love letter to anime, and it hall a full fledged convoluted anime plot, which wouldn't be sufficiently in evidence from a demo. Interestingly enough about No One Lives Forever and Unreal; they're both games that I picked up earlier this year, and have yet to get around to playing. I'm honestly excited about both. Too bad that my copy of NoLF is the PS2 version, but I'm just glad I found one at all; Monolith no longer has the rights, so it'll take a miracle for the stupid thing to be released on Steam or Good old Games.WildFire15 said:
I enjoyed Shogo when it came out but it's a very different game to Half-Life. It has much more in common with Marathon, Unreal, Mech Warrior, Tribes, Halo, and BattleTanx. Due to this, the comparison sounds pretty bizarre, as if say I bemoaned the fact that Half-Life overshadowed Thief.Owyn_Merrilin said:
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You're just saying that because you're playing hard to get. I know how you people operate.
It's a story driven, voice acted FPS which came out at a time when most FPS games were "here's a gun, there's a bad guy." It told its story through cutscenes and the levels weren't contiguous, but it does fit a similar niche. Besides, my main gripe is that the hype behind Half Life killed it, moreso than Half Life itself. The games were released two months apart, and you can guess which game everyone bought. The Half Life fans need to shut up about Episode 3 already, because Monolith promised us more Shogo games back in 1998, and it sold so poorly that both expansions were cancelled, and the sequel was never more than a blip on the horizon. The closest thing we've managed to get is F.E.A.R., which is pretty clearly set in the same universe as Shogo, about the same amount of time apart as Alien and Aliens Vs. Predator.The Youth Counselor said:
Never played the first one (though I did watch freemans mind, so I have a good idea), but HL2 (and it's episodes) is my favorite FPS to date.
I am curious why the Half Life series is so popular to bash here. There are plenty of other games that would start bigger flame wars (Ocarina of Time comes to mind).
I am curious why the Half Life series is so popular to bash here. There are plenty of other games that would start bigger flame wars (Ocarina of Time comes to mind).
The majority of Escapist posters are PC gamers. Most of them also tend to be very vocal about their love of Valve. So if you want to be contrarian and be different from as many people as possible then you say something about a Valve game.Yomomma20 said:
Now not all PC gamers on this site obssess over Valve, and not all people who dislike Valve games are being contrarians, but more often than not that's the case.
No i'm not a Valve fanboy, no I don't hate Valve.
i've tried the first one and the 2nd one so many damn times...but every single time i either fall asleep or am extremely bored.
i don't hate the games, not one bit, but good god do i find them utterly boring
i don't hate the games, not one bit, but good god do i find them utterly boring
Hell yes it does. Unreal's still one of my favourite games because of the way it wove the story (told entirely through native books, ancient inscriptions, computers & logs) and the gorgeous environments together. The soundtrack kicked ass, too. Combat was it's biggest flaw.WildFire15 said:
This is like the most trite reoccurring thread on this forums.
The half-life games are both great games, that's not an opinion it's a fact. Whether you like them or not is your opinion. However, both changed the FPS gaming genre irrevocably, and both to this day, are studied by game designers as examples of how to make great games. You didn't have to be alive at the time to appreciate them today for what they are, just as you didn't have to be alive in the 70s to recognize the Star Wars movies were great.
I believe most people claim to not like the half-life games either because they are just incapable of recognizing good games for what they are due to some hang up on dated graphics, or they've never played them and feel its cool to hate popular games because it makes you edgy and e-cool.
The half-life games are both great games, that's not an opinion it's a fact. Whether you like them or not is your opinion. However, both changed the FPS gaming genre irrevocably, and both to this day, are studied by game designers as examples of how to make great games. You didn't have to be alive at the time to appreciate them today for what they are, just as you didn't have to be alive in the 70s to recognize the Star Wars movies were great.
I believe most people claim to not like the half-life games either because they are just incapable of recognizing good games for what they are due to some hang up on dated graphics, or they've never played them and feel its cool to hate popular games because it makes you edgy and e-cool.
I'm a big fan of the Half Life series, even if it's showing its age. For me though, I think a lot of it might rest with the 'nostalgia factor'. I fondly remember late nights of Counter-Strike, The Specialists, Sven Co-op and Day of Defeat with a close group of buddies back in the early 2000s. Then in 2004, my best friend and I went to go pick up our copy of HL2 on the opening day and I just loved the story's new direction, gameplay and action. Add in TF2, CS:S, DoD:S, Battlegrounds 2 and Pirates, Viking and Knights 2 and I was having just an awesome all around gaming experience.
Is the HL series the best FPS series ever? That's hard for me to say with any complete objectivity. Is it my favorite FPS series ever? I'd have to say yes.
Is the HL series the best FPS series ever? That's hard for me to say with any complete objectivity. Is it my favorite FPS series ever? I'd have to say yes.
Half-Life 2 in particular has some interesting level design going for it; paradoxically, said level design can also end up being boring and samey as hell.
By that, I mean that Half Life 2 (and its smaller ilk Ep 1 and Ep 2) have this annoying habit of reusing a ton of material. Plot-wise, HL2 and Ep 2 end in painfully tacked-on Deus Ex Machina (and I finally finished Ep 2 for the first time last night), but have individually decent stories to them.
They're very well-polished titles, but hardly worth the hype. They are light years ahead of Halo overall though (barring multiplayer, obviously); I'll give them that much.
By that, I mean that Half Life 2 (and its smaller ilk Ep 1 and Ep 2) have this annoying habit of reusing a ton of material. Plot-wise, HL2 and Ep 2 end in painfully tacked-on Deus Ex Machina (and I finally finished Ep 2 for the first time last night), but have individually decent stories to them.
They're very well-polished titles, but hardly worth the hype. They are light years ahead of Halo overall though (barring multiplayer, obviously); I'll give them that much.
I feel the same, but it is the No One Lives Forever games, that I feel deserve more recognition. NOLF came out just after Half Life, but it was a far better game. It did however, have cutscenes that broke the first person perspective.Owyn_Merrilin said:
OT: I like Half Life and it sure did change story teling in FPSs, but it isn't the alpha and omega of PC gaming.