Poll: how much to you like/dislike made up pokemon

[nuba km]

I like more made up pokemon than I don't like, though many of them look more like Digimon or Monster Rancher monsters than a good ol' Poke.
Still, after Pantslizard, I just can't defend the designs any more....

Spoiler: Anyone who hasn't seen pantslizard, prepare for your blue version to roll over in its gameboy

As for the stats 'n fighting stuff, most made up pokemon are terrible. Smogon has done some great madeup pokemon and retypings, however. So many people who make made-up pokemanz want theirs to be the Kyogre of the 3rd generation, or if they're modest, the skarmory or tyranitar of the 2nd gen.

I actually like zuruzukin (pantslizard) and those pants is it's shed skin that is elastic and it is one of the more popular pokemons of the 5th generation (just search zuruzukin) he is based of gang culture. also what to you think of my pokemon? average stat for each would be 70 and below 40 would be terrible and above 100 is very good but most steel have at least 130 defence and most poisons have at least 100 for each defensive stat. his slow speed means he is one of the slowest pokemons there is drawing with one ore two others and his attack is kinda crappy. post 5 is my reasoning to my pokemon I didn't just make it up to have an awesome pokemon. also I agree most people give there pokemon a total of 600(maximum of any pokemon) or above just so they can kill anything and even though my type mix is awsome my reason for making the pokemon made me make that pokemon those types then I checked it and it turned out to be an awesome type mix. I also agree that some made up pokemons don't look like pokemon but I actually made a sprite for a pokemon(not the one in my original post this is psychic/rock:

Spoiler

there were others but they sucked.

 

[Wondermint13]

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this is my response for every one who says that modern pokemons aren't creative or look stupid.

Fun, friendly, simple designs. Yep, thats what I liked about the original pokemon. The newest pokemon ARE over-designed and end up being a big mess of something that cant stick to one bloody type. And now they insult the original pokemon with all these crap new super evolutions and babies. In the old games, when a pokemon jumps out at me I think.. "Ah a horse, obviously fast. It has flames. Perfect! A fire type, just what I need!" In the new games I see a pokemon and think "Holy shit! What the hell is the fuzzy looking mess with that super cool glare and glowing red feet....."
Pokemon had limits and were therefore Pokemon, now they can be just about any random mesh of body parts =(

 

[nuba km]

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this is my response for every one who says that modern pokemons aren't creative or look stupid.

Fun, friendly, simple designs. Yep, thats what I liked about the original pokemon. The newest pokemon ARE over-designed and end up being a big mess of something that cant stick to one bloody type. And now they insult the original pokemon with all these crap new super evolutions and babies. In the old games, when a pokemon jumps out at me I think.. "Ah a horse, obviously fast. It has flames. Perfect! A fire type, just what I need!" In the new games I see a pokemon and think "Holy shit! What the hell is the fuzzy looking mess with that super cool glare and glowing red feet....."
Pokemon had limits and were therefore Pokemon, now they can be just about any random mesh of body parts =(

ryhorn over designed and how the hell is jinx a bloody water type(now ice) (first gene had multi type pokemons). also a plant covered in shiney grey spikes what type is it? yellow spider what type is that? bright red mothe what type is that? a muscular huminiod pokemon what type is that? a swan what type is that? a eagle what type is that? all of these answers are obvious grass steel, electric bug, fire bug, fighting, water flying, normal flying (there is no non legendary pure flying type) there are more that have obvious type mixes also the type mixes add strategy and are just good and the fact is modern pokemon are family friendly just made to go with more modern styles of things being very smooth or jacked with no in between(apart from desukaan because he eats people and gold) there are only one or two confusing pokemons in every generation.

 

[Erana]

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this is my response for every one who says that modern pokemons aren't creative or look stupid.

Fun, friendly, simple designs. Yep, thats what I liked about the original pokemon. The newest pokemon ARE over-designed and end up being a big mess of something that cant stick to one bloody type. And now they insult the original pokemon with all these crap new super evolutions and babies. In the old games, when a pokemon jumps out at me I think.. "Ah a horse, obviously fast. It has flames. Perfect! A fire type, just what I need!" In the new games I see a pokemon and think "Holy shit! What the hell is the fuzzy looking mess with that super cool glare and glowing red feet....."
Pokemon had limits and were therefore Pokemon, now they can be just about any random mesh of body parts =(

Pokemon has always taken the art style of contemporary Japanese Mascot characters, which is why say,
Ponyta has detailed knees and hair,(1990's) while Blitzle here has an unrealistic snout and crazy eyes. (2010's)

You could still look at that and go, "Ah a horse,zebra, obviously fast. It has flamesLightning bolts. Perfect! A fire typeAn electric type, just what I need!"

And not to mention, pokemon was just going to have more freedom in designing pokemon when it went to GBA 'cause of the full-color possibilities. It was bound to be more wild.

But pokemon like Lepardas [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lepardas],Pendra [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pendoraa_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29] or Drilbur [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Drilbur_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29] aren't inheriently worse than, say, Persian, Pinsir and diglett, necessarily.

And need I remind you about pokemon like Jinx, Victreebel, lickatung, or Tangela? RBY had its fare share of bad designs, too...
But that's just going to happen. Especially when we're talking Japan here, a culture that can be veeeeery different from Western culture.
I'm not kidding when I say that there were keychains for an, "Algae erection" mascot character on top of Tokyo tower right beside Harajuku and Shibuya Hello Kitty.

/defending bad pokemanz design rant

 

[spiffleh]

I know it's shallow, but I pretty much always judge pokemon first and foremost by appearance. Thus if design one that looks nifty than I'll probably like it. Give it decent typing, stats and abilities then I would potentially use it assuming it were in a game.

 

[nuba km]

[Image located on the original post]
this is my response for every one who says that modern pokemons aren't creative or look stupid.

Fun, friendly, simple designs. Yep, thats what I liked about the original pokemon. The newest pokemon ARE over-designed and end up being a big mess of something that cant stick to one bloody type. And now they insult the original pokemon with all these crap new super evolutions and babies. In the old games, when a pokemon jumps out at me I think.. "Ah a horse, obviously fast. It has flames. Perfect! A fire type, just what I need!" In the new games I see a pokemon and think "Holy shit! What the hell is the fuzzy looking mess with that super cool glare and glowing red feet....."
Pokemon had limits and were therefore Pokemon, now they can be just about any random mesh of body parts =(

Pokemon has always taken the art style of contemporary Japanese Mascot characters, which is why say,
Ponyta has detailed knees and hair,(1990's) while Blitzle here has an unrealistic snout and crazy eyes. (2010's)

You could still look at that and go, "Ah a horse,zebra, obviously fast. It has flamesLightning bolts. Perfect! A fire typeAn electric type, just what I need!"

And not to mention, pokemon was just going to have more freedom in designing pokemon when it went to GBA 'cause of the full-color possibilities. It was bound to be more wild.

But pokemon like Lepardas [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lepardas],Pendra [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pendoraa_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29] or Drilbur [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Drilbur_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29] aren't inheriently worse than, say, Persian, Pinsir and diglett, necessarily.

And need I remind you about pokemon like Jinx, Victreebel, lickatung, or Tangela? RBY had its fare share of bad designs, too...

/defending pokemanz design rant

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also hypno is an obscure animal (aardvark) but yea I hate it when some one goes 'the first 151/251 were the only good one' because they are not for example:
bachuru

and any weird pokemon like zuruzukin can be explained:

but he can be explained by the fact he is based of gang culture giving him baggy trousers and a hoody and a Mohawk, as well as a 'high' face. the gang culture gives him his fighting type but the emo nature of a lot of gangs gives him his dark type and they travel in groups yet again another reflection of gang culture and the pre evolution attacks anything it sees like a 12 year old trying to be a gangster.

some pokemons are obvious but they always had some pokemons with a lot of thought behind them like hypno makes pokemon sleep because aardvarks sleep a lot and are very droze and slump around like they are hypnotised and they wanted to reverse it so that's why we have a psychic aardvark.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I think it depends on the pokemon image itself. I've most only seen artwork, never full stats or details. But most of the ones I've seen were eeveelutions, and they looked oka I suppose.

 

[Jeronus]

If you didn't believe they scraping the bottom of the barrel, this will definitely destroy any faith you had in the creators.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yabukuron_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

It is not even technically a pokemon. It is a trash bag that managed to gain life through contact with chemicals. It sounds more like a mutated freak than a pokemon.

 

[nuba km]

If you didn't believe they scraping the bottom of the barrel, this will definitely destroy any faith you had in the creators.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yabukuron_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

It is not even technically a pokemon. It is a trash bag that managed to gain life through contact with chemicals. It sounds more like a mutated freak than a pokemon.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dunsparce_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
they had worse and this is a second gen pokemon and they had bad pokemon in every generation as well as good and creative pokemons.

 

[Ken Sapp]

Aren't all pokemon "made-up"

yes but I mean like fan made pokemons

The problem with most fan-made anything is that they typically lack any semblance of balance. If that bar is overcome then I have little problem with it. Not really a pokemon fan myself though

I balance my pokemons this one is slightly below average in both attacks and is extremely slow meaning it will always attack second and in post 5 I explain my thought pattern for this pokemon so they type mixture being good is just lucky because I thought of the type mixture and checked how it was.

I said most, not everything made by fans is crap and I refuse to make any judgements on your pokemon design since I don't play the games and therefore have no basis on which to measure it.

 

[sora91111]

Fan made things can be good, but only if A. It doesn't break the game and or plot. and B.Isn't just a bad idea. look at fanmade levels in Littlebigplanet, some of those are good.

 

[Ken Sapp]

Aren't all pokemon "made-up"

Thats very closed-minded of you. There have been several sightings as well as tracks of Primeape in north america as well as pokemon sightings such as a Lapras in lake Loche Ness, a Crobat in certain regions of mexico and even Dragonite fossils found in China.

My pet Chupacabra says you are pulling my leg.

 

[nuba km]

Aren't all pokemon "made-up"

yes but I mean like fan made pokemons

The problem with most fan-made anything is that they typically lack any semblance of balance. If that bar is overcome then I have little problem with it. Not really a pokemon fan myself though

I balance my pokemons this one is slightly below average in both attacks and is extremely slow meaning it will always attack second and in post 5 I explain my thought pattern for this pokemon so they type mixture being good is just lucky because I thought of the type mixture and checked how it was.

I said most, not everything made by fans is crap and I refuse to make any judgements on your pokemon design since I don't play the games and therefore have no basis on which to measure it.

seems reasonable and sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

[DarkRyter]

Most fan-made pokemon suck, but as do 90 percent of real pokemon. (That's all gens. Hell, first gen especially has some pretty shitty stuff.)

It takes alot of time, effort, and knowledge to create a pokemon worth using. Smogon's CAP program is extensive and involves the efforts of a rather wide userbase, just to make a few, well designed, competitively useful and balanced pokemon.

From what I've seen of fan work, it's mostly shit, as most fan made things are *cough cough* Idealized self projection fanfics *cough cough*.

But still, I remember seeing some good ones. Like a panda with giant bamboo claws. It was some guy's idea for a grass starter. Best grass starter I've ever seen, real or not.

 

[nuba km]

Fan made things can be good, but only if A. It doesn't break the game and or plot. and B.Isn't just a bad idea. look at fanmade levels in Littlebigplanet, some of those are good.

and what is your judgement on my pokemon (and it is true that anythingwith a mpa editore has crap and great in it).

 

[The Shade]

I won't even look at any Pokemon that aren't in the original 151 set.

So no - I don't like fan-made Pokemon. I don't even like official second-gen Pokemon.

Bulbasaur - Mew's all I need, t'anks ver' much.

 

[Ken Sapp]

I said most, not everything made by fans is crap and I refuse to make any judgements on your pokemon design since I don't play the games and therefore have no basis on which to measure it.

seems reasonable and sorry for the misunderstanding.

No problem.

From what I've seen of fan work, it's mostly shit, as most fan made things are *cough cough* Idealized self projection fanfics *cough cough*.

I agree.

 

[nuba km]

Most fan-made pokemon suck, but as do 90 percent of real pokemon. (That's all gens. Hell, first gen especially has some pretty shitty stuff.)

It takes alot of time, effort, and knowledge to create a pokemon worth using. Smogon's CAP program is extensive and involves the efforts of a rather wide userbase, just to make a few, well designed, competitively useful and balanced pokemon.

From what I've seen of fan work, it's mostly shit, as most fan made things are *cough cough* Idealized self projection fanfics *cough cough*.

But still, I remember seeing some good ones. Like a panda with giant bamboo claws. It was some guy's idea for a grass starter. Best grass starter I've ever seen, real or not.

I think I saw his idea of a grass starter it was awesome also think most pokemons are good but there are only a handful of great pokemons and I ask this to every reasonable smart reply to this threat what to you think of my pokemon? also I don't mind criticism I just want the truth of peoples opinion and I like it when I get a very negative marking person because then i know all that I could to to make my project better.

 

[2xDouble]

I always wondered why they never gave Octillery an evolution (that I made up), a Water/Fire type Krakannon (something like that, maybe. portmanteau of kraken/krakatoa and cannon). (why not? Octillery can learn flamethrower and fire blast already). Basically looks like Octillery, but with slightly improved stats (naturally), and it looks meaner with thick strips of flames on its head, face (where eyebrows would be), and arms.

I'd also like to give my buddy Lanturn a new evolution. Perhaps modeled after those clear-head fish, or a little more anglerfish-like (big teeth and whatnot). Hell, slightly subpar stats is the only thing that keeps Lanturn out of OU (and mine still kicks ass) so it wouldn't be unbalanced.

Needless to say, I like making fan-made pokemon. Some are ill-concieved, and some are downright dumb, but they're almost always worth looking at.

If you didn't believe they scraping the bottom of the barrel, this will definitely destroy any faith you had in the creators.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yabukuron_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29

It is not even technically a pokemon. It is a trash bag that managed to gain life through contact with chemicals. It sounds more like a mutated freak than a pokemon.

...as opposed to this [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Grimer] piece of sh*t (literally)?

 

[Wondermint13]

and any weird pokemon like zuruzukin can be explained:

Oh what the F*** is the point of that thing.. Mohawk! wow... must have!! What is it supposed to be??? Could be Fire, Ground or Water by the looks of it. Or normal, considering it doesnt have any -real features- Even the names have gotten ridiculous.. Zuruzukin? And who gives a plum about Gang Culture when you're supposed to be having fun and collecting pokemon?
Its Barrel Scraping. I cant believe people are turning against the first 150 when they were the ones that made pokemon what it is. Just take another look at the excuses for pokemon we are being given now. Even comparing Ponyta with that thing that -looks like- a horse or any other generic four legged creature.

Long Live Pokemon! But for gods sake dont offend it by saying that after 150-250 designs they actually got better!