Poll: How much will you pay to live?

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Miumaru

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Pfft, Id say go bankrupt. Its not selfish to want to live. And you wonder why games always have either just really good or really bad. This is either a really noble, or not really noble situation, not a good or bad one. Besides, you only get one life, but you can have any amount of money.
The trouble is that it's not your money, so the family will be eating bread crusts and sleeping in a box for a while.
Either the family is loving and good, the kind youd want to sacrifice your life for, or they are not. So either they would not mind since they love you like a good family should, or they dont give a crap anyways, why should you?
Because I care about their well-being, and saving my own life is not worth potentially ruining all of theirs. Them not minding doesn't factor in.
Well they should also care about yours.
Irrelevant. My life is not worth every asset that my entire family owns. Yes, you can make more money, but losing a house, savings, and retirement means years and years and years of misery that it is entirely possible to never escape from.
And dying means you are dead. Thats it. No chance to earn the money back, no chance to find happiness, no chance to experience new things. You are dead and gone.
This is acceptable.
Well fine, you go be dead. I however will prefer to live. Does not make me a bad person. (Which was my argument to begin with)
SlowShootinPete said:
Forcing your entire family into bankruptcy to save yourself would be selfish and cowardly.
There are more important things than one's own life.
And the circle is complete. My whole first comment was in response to that comment specifically. Would I die for the sake of another? Maybe. Anyone right now I would die for? No. My family I would not die for, not in that situation. I am not a coward for it, I am human. Life is more important than material goods.
Material goods are closely tied to health and success, which is why Mexicans keep trying to hop the US border.

Out of curiousity, what is it about your family that would give you reason to not die for them?
So as long as your family does well, you will be too healthy to be dead eh?
People don't do well when they have absolutely no money. Saving up for retirement, the most critical asset that would be lost, takes a long time. Assuming they have decently paying jobs, short-term they might bounce back, but the old timers have probably just lost their futures.

Miumaru said:
Though not going to say my family is some monstrous one, they have not shown me the love that is worth dying for. I do hope they love me enough though that they would not be sour about it. If they were though, that would then make me feel they are horrible and thus I would feel no shame.
This is understandable, I suppose.

JimmyBassatti said:
SlowShootinPete said:
Forcing your entire family into bankruptcy to save yourself would be selfish and cowardly.

I'd go out and cook meth instead.
Breaking Bad is one of the greatest TV shows.
It's like a gift from heaven.

Pretty depressing, though. Especially the season 2 finale.
So I, as a young 19 year old should die for the sake of older people? What of my OWN future? If I was really old and dying and my choices were die or bankrupt my family, I would be more inclined to die, but I am not.
 

SlowShootinPete

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Miumaru said:
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Pfft, Id say go bankrupt. Its not selfish to want to live. And you wonder why games always have either just really good or really bad. This is either a really noble, or not really noble situation, not a good or bad one. Besides, you only get one life, but you can have any amount of money.
The trouble is that it's not your money, so the family will be eating bread crusts and sleeping in a box for a while.
Either the family is loving and good, the kind youd want to sacrifice your life for, or they are not. So either they would not mind since they love you like a good family should, or they dont give a crap anyways, why should you?
Because I care about their well-being, and saving my own life is not worth potentially ruining all of theirs. Them not minding doesn't factor in.
Well they should also care about yours.
Irrelevant. My life is not worth every asset that my entire family owns. Yes, you can make more money, but losing a house, savings, and retirement means years and years and years of misery that it is entirely possible to never escape from.
And dying means you are dead. Thats it. No chance to earn the money back, no chance to find happiness, no chance to experience new things. You are dead and gone.
This is acceptable.
Well fine, you go be dead. I however will prefer to live. Does not make me a bad person. (Which was my argument to begin with)
SlowShootinPete said:
Forcing your entire family into bankruptcy to save yourself would be selfish and cowardly.
There are more important things than one's own life.
And the circle is complete. My whole first comment was in response to that comment specifically. Would I die for the sake of another? Maybe. Anyone right now I would die for? No. My family I would not die for, not in that situation. I am not a coward for it, I am human. Life is more important than material goods.
Material goods are closely tied to health and success, which is why Mexicans keep trying to hop the US border.

Out of curiousity, what is it about your family that would give you reason to not die for them?
So as long as your family does well, you will be too healthy to be dead eh?
People don't do well when they have absolutely no money. Saving up for retirement, the most critical asset that would be lost, takes a long time. Assuming they have decently paying jobs, short-term they might bounce back, but the old timers have probably just lost their futures.

Miumaru said:
Though not going to say my family is some monstrous one, they have not shown me the love that is worth dying for. I do hope they love me enough though that they would not be sour about it. If they were though, that would then make me feel they are horrible and thus I would feel no shame.
This is understandable, I suppose.

JimmyBassatti said:
SlowShootinPete said:
Forcing your entire family into bankruptcy to save yourself would be selfish and cowardly.

I'd go out and cook meth instead.
Breaking Bad is one of the greatest TV shows.
It's like a gift from heaven.

Pretty depressing, though. Especially the season 2 finale.
So I, as a young 19 year old should die for the sake of older people? What of my OWN future? If I was really old and dying and my choices were die or bankrupt my family, I would be more inclined to die, but I am not.
... Yeah, you have me there. I shouldn't have been so absolute with my first post. It's still selfish, and doesn't seem right to me, but I can't fault you for feeling that way.

JimmyBassatti said:
I swear, each episode of Lost, they'd just throw darts with words like "Aliens", "Time Traveling", "Alien Time Travelers", and "Lots of Pot", and go from their.
They get all their ideas from crazy hobos, I'll bet.
 

kurupt87

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Fortunately I live in a country that doesn't entirely base human value on available funds.

If I did though, I suppose I would find some way to get the money through legally nefarious means, hopefully at the expense of (a)company/ies as opposed to an individual or private/smalltime/independent business.

Edit - More OT: Confined to the idea of paying or not paying, and that this money has to come from and at expense to my family, I give the following answer.

I would say no, but not for any of the reasons given, my reason would be that it is not my right to decide how to use money that belongs to someone else. I would leave the decision to my family in other words, of course I really would hope that they choose to use the money to save me, but the decision is not mine to make.
 

Miumaru

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SlowShootinPete said:
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Pfft, Id say go bankrupt. Its not selfish to want to live. And you wonder why games always have either just really good or really bad. This is either a really noble, or not really noble situation, not a good or bad one. Besides, you only get one life, but you can have any amount of money.
The trouble is that it's not your money, so the family will be eating bread crusts and sleeping in a box for a while.
Either the family is loving and good, the kind youd want to sacrifice your life for, or they are not. So either they would not mind since they love you like a good family should, or they dont give a crap anyways, why should you?
Because I care about their well-being, and saving my own life is not worth potentially ruining all of theirs. Them not minding doesn't factor in.
Well they should also care about yours.
Irrelevant. My life is not worth every asset that my entire family owns. Yes, you can make more money, but losing a house, savings, and retirement means years and years and years of misery that it is entirely possible to never escape from.
And dying means you are dead. Thats it. No chance to earn the money back, no chance to find happiness, no chance to experience new things. You are dead and gone.
This is acceptable.
Well fine, you go be dead. I however will prefer to live. Does not make me a bad person. (Which was my argument to begin with)
SlowShootinPete said:
Forcing your entire family into bankruptcy to save yourself would be selfish and cowardly.
There are more important things than one's own life.
And the circle is complete. My whole first comment was in response to that comment specifically. Would I die for the sake of another? Maybe. Anyone right now I would die for? No. My family I would not die for, not in that situation. I am not a coward for it, I am human. Life is more important than material goods.
Material goods are closely tied to health and success, which is why Mexicans keep trying to hop the US border.

Out of curiousity, what is it about your family that would give you reason to not die for them?
So as long as your family does well, you will be too healthy to be dead eh?
People don't do well when they have absolutely no money. Saving up for retirement, the most critical asset that would be lost, takes a long time. Assuming they have decently paying jobs, short-term they might bounce back, but the old timers have probably just lost their futures.

Miumaru said:
Though not going to say my family is some monstrous one, they have not shown me the love that is worth dying for. I do hope they love me enough though that they would not be sour about it. If they were though, that would then make me feel they are horrible and thus I would feel no shame.
This is understandable, I suppose.

JimmyBassatti said:
SlowShootinPete said:
Forcing your entire family into bankruptcy to save yourself would be selfish and cowardly.

I'd go out and cook meth instead.
Breaking Bad is one of the greatest TV shows.
It's like a gift from heaven.

Pretty depressing, though. Especially the season 2 finale.
So I, as a young 19 year old should die for the sake of older people? What of my OWN future? If I was really old and dying and my choices were die or bankrupt my family, I would be more inclined to die, but I am not.
... Yeah, you have me there. I shouldn't have been so absolute with my first post. It's still selfish, and doesn't seem right to me, but I can't fault you for feeling that way.

JimmyBassatti said:
I swear, each episode of Lost, they'd just throw darts with words like "Aliens", "Time Traveling", "Alien Time Travelers", and "Lots of Pot", and go from their.
They get all their ideas from crazy hobos, I'll bet.
Im not saying choosing to die is not noble, but choosing to live is not unnoble.
 

child of lileth

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lmao. My family wouldn't pay for anyone's anything. Besides, why would I even expect someone else to pay for an injury that happened to me? I would chose to just let whatever happens from it happen, it would be my fault to begin with anyway.
 

CrashBang

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I don't get drunk, but if that did happen my parents would do anything to save me regardless. So yeah I'd do it, I'd like to think spending the life savings of a few people is equal to a life. I'd do it for my parents, my friends (well, one or two of them) and my girlfriend and hope they'd do it for me