Poll: I need permission to watch the president!?

[Yoshemo]

At my school, the senior class students were going to watch Obama's speech he made on Wensday. But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it. These are 17-19 year old people that need to get mommy's permission to hear our leader talk. This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

Jesus H. Christ. What happened to freedom? To democracy? What state do you live in, good sir?

I'm going to guess Texas. I've read reports of stuff like this coming out of Texas in the last few weeks, still, its pretty f---ed up.

Actually, I live in Michigan. Buts its a redneck town so might as well be texas

 

[Sovvolf]

This happend at my school except we didn't have an option to watch it or not, it should be up to the school, I dont want to see the speech but my friends on a differnt team had to, one of which hates Obama like me, he told me he watched it so he could find all the bullshit that it was filled with. He found alot.

So you think that people should need permission to watch it simply because you don't like Obama??... I don't get your sense of logic... that's like me saying people should be given permission to play Two Worlds because I don't like the game.

 

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[Bat Vader]

At my school, the senior class students were going to watch Obama's speech he made on Wensday. But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it. These are 17-19 year old people that need to get mommy's permission to hear our leader talk. This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

Jesus H. Christ. What happened to freedom? To democracy? What state do you live in, good sir?

I'm going to guess Texas. I've read reports of stuff like this coming out of Texas in the last few weeks, still, its pretty f---ed up.

Actually, I live in Michigan. Buts its a redneck town so might as well be texas

What town? I live in Michigan as well.

My opinion on this is let the students choose whether they want to watch it or not.

 

[ZZ-Tops89]

...But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it...This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

First, Bush didn't rant. He didn't sound particularly good in his speeches, but he didn't spout off for several minutes angrily.

Second, there were protests about kids having to listen to Bush, it's just they never reached the national media. This was NOT (at least in my appraisal of it) due to any "media bias" (for any of you people looking for a way to rant at me about how I'm some stupid right-wing nut job (see, there's the correct usage). The big reason is that most of these took place in the days of 30% approval rating Bush, not during the first 2.5 years of his presidency, so nobody really found the criticisms out of place in any way. Also those protests were much less vocal and more on the fringes (like from the very far left - middle-leftists didn't seem to mind if I recall correctly).

Third, To be fair (/devil's advocate mode) there's a very fine line between "propoganda" and "encouraging kids to do well in school". When Bush Sr. gave televised speeches about the importance of not doing drugs, some criticized it as fear tactics. I'm in college, I never saw/heard the obama school address, so I'm not going to claim I know what's in it, but I think that there is at least a REASONABLE argument that he'd be political in it. That said, from what some of the higher-minded opposition said about it, it sounds like he actually was pretty good and just said the same old "stay in school..." thing

 

[QuirkyTambourine]

But he's brainwashing all of us!!!ONEONE11!1

Yeah this is rather embarrassing for your school man, there's some law about teachers not allowing to say their political affiliations, shame the same can't be said about parents.

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

No, because I always had to watch Bush's speeches in school without the option not to. Why should it be any different now? Just because there's a Democrat in office? That's ridiculous and a total double-standard. It's the president speaking, which anyone should be allowed to watch regardless of whether they agree with what he's saying.

That is exactly why.

 

[Yoshemo]

At my school, the senior class students were going to watch Obama's speech he made on Wensday. But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it. These are 17-19 year old people that need to get mommy's permission to hear our leader talk. This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

Jesus H. Christ. What happened to freedom? To democracy? What state do you live in, good sir?

I'm going to guess Texas. I've read reports of stuff like this coming out of Texas in the last few weeks, still, its pretty f---ed up.

Actually, I live in Michigan. Buts its a redneck town so might as well be texas

What town? I live in Michigan as well.

My opinion on this is let the students choose whether they want to watch it or not.

The school is in Potterville

 

[Starke]

At my school, the senior class students were going to watch Obama's speech he made on Wensday. But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it. These are 17-19 year old people that need to get mommy's permission to hear our leader talk. This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

Jesus H. Christ. What happened to freedom? To democracy? What state do you live in, good sir?

I'm going to guess Texas. I've read reports of stuff like this coming out of Texas in the last few weeks, still, its pretty f---ed up.

as a Texan, I cna tell you that a majority here believe in the whole Death Note Panel scare, though Insurance companies already use them. Texas mainly has Ant-Government healthcare [lolmedicare] and the TEA-baggers, if they still use that name.


as for me, I support President Obama, simply because those who voted for him turned their backs, typical of America though, get a president who actually does what he says he will do and people go batshit insane because of it.

American Politics have just turned really mean lately. I can kinda get why, but some of this is just baffling to me.

 

[leviathanmisha]

Can I just say, la bullshit! We weren't given the chance to watch it at my school, so I have no clue what he all said, but we wouldn't need permissions slips or anything like that if we did...but I do believe my school is a bunch of commies...so you never know...

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Crazy parents are the bane of most teachers. Rarely are their suggestions ever wise, but they have to be listened to because of the litigation culture.

Where there's blame...

 

[Bat Vader]

At my school, the senior class students were going to watch Obama's speech he made on Wensday. But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it. These are 17-19 year old people that need to get mommy's permission to hear our leader talk. This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

Jesus H. Christ. What happened to freedom? To democracy? What state do you live in, good sir?

I'm going to guess Texas. I've read reports of stuff like this coming out of Texas in the last few weeks, still, its pretty f---ed up.

Actually, I live in Michigan. Buts its a redneck town so might as well be texas

What town? I live in Michigan as well.

My opinion on this is let the students choose whether they want to watch it or not.

The school is in Potterville

Cool, I live in Petoskey.

 

[GyroCaptain]

At my school, the senior class students were going to watch Obama's speech he made on Wensday. But a bunch of crazy parents complained, saying its propoganda and is brainwashing the children. So instead of dealing with them, they made a permission slip that is needed to be signed in order to watch it. These are 17-19 year old people that need to get mommy's permission to hear our leader talk. This is really pathetic to me. We never needed permission to listen to Bush's idiotic rants

Jesus H. Christ. What happened to freedom? To democracy? What state do you live in, good sir?

I'm going to guess Texas. I've read reports of stuff like this coming out of Texas in the last few weeks, still, its pretty f---ed up.

Not knowing your parent's ideological leanings, I suspect that they wouldn't sign, but, lean on them to, if you want to see it.

My parents hate Obama, but they don't care if I watch him. I've seen it on tv anyway

Yeah, mine don't hate him, I believe they did vote for him on my argument (mostly that if McCain dies before 2012, we'd have had former Governor Palin as president (*Shudders*)). Though they are still wary of him. How they managed to remain aligned with the Republican party these last five years is something I'll never completely understand.

Still, the entire situation bothers me a bit. The point was dialog. In a democracy sometimes you win, sometimes you don't, but the debate should be the primary focus, not this whole, "the other guy won, so I'm going to hide my kids from it and pretend my guy won for the next 8 years," behavior I've been seeing. I know that's overly idealistic, but it still bothers me that we've gotten this far from it. As far as I know no one would have even considered shielding their children from a public address by Kennedy, or Johnson, or even Clinton.

Sorry, I'm rambling, but, this behavior disturbs me on a number of levels.

I'm of the opinion that the reaction is stone-cold insane, but what probably provoked this was the power-tripping bit of crazy the Obama mill ground out a short while ago with Hollywood celebrities pledging their support to Obama and specific favorite causes of his that aired in Utah or wherever. In other words, anyone paranoid in any sense about Obama has been given enough ammunition on this point prior to this to turn back the Mongol horde. Sure the administration will watch what they say NOW, but the previous DDR-esque propaganda for gradeschoolers means provoking Hatfields and McCoys together to fire from the hills no matter what he does in schools.

 

[Deleted]

Methinks some angry voters have SOMETHING to finally control.

 

[historybuff]

its dumb we already know socailism we take our parents money lol

OT:no free choice in our country for those of age, but then freedom ends in school or so im told.

ps scifidownbeat your avatair is amazinng

In America, we already have some socialized policies. All the crazies just seems to be ignoring them.

 

[Mcface]

I agree with the second post, give the kids an option.

It is a bit weird though, We never watched any bush speeches when I was in school.

And I can see why people would have a problem being forced to watch it.

 

[Jamash]

That's ridiculous, especially for the students aged 18 and above. It's absurd that they need to get their parent's permission to watch a speech by the man they (may have) voted for.

If you don't need your parent's permission to vote for a president, then you should need it to watch him on TV after the event.

If this was happening at the time of the presidential elections, and 18-19 year old students needed to get permission to watch a campaign speech, could the school's and parent's actions (if they denied permission) be construed as some sort of vote tampering or election rigging, some sort of obstruction to a fair and democratic election process?

 

[Jerious1154]

For some reason my highschool didn't watch it, although all of the middle and elementary schools that feed into it did. I'm not sure why that is, especially since I live in one of the most liberal areas of the country.