Poll: If a friend/acquaintance of yours committed a victimless crime would you report him to the police?

[mike1921]

Do you think the parents of that girl would not be hurt a little bit if they found out? victims!

Yea, that's just you being a dick about it. Also you're assuming that the girl is young or has idiot parents (anyone who cares if their 35 year old daughter gives their husband a blowjob is an idiot, although they probably don't want to hear about it), her parents are alive, and her parents will find out.

Lets say you have a friend who committed a victimless crime such as: used an illegal drug, owned/carried a weapon illegaly(not including explosives/WMD's)or had sex with a prostitute. I wouldn't turn them in and hope you wouldn't either.

I wouldn't report my worst enemy for a victimless crime. Maybe prostitution, but only if it was prostitution the prostitute had no choice in since that's rape.

And before anyone asks, my opinion on drugs is that there is always a victim, whether it is the user and their family/friends or just the user, someone will be a victim, whether they agree or not. Kinda like statutory rape victims, they might not consider themselves a victim but personally I don't consider anyone under 16 (if not 18) able to competently decide whether sex is a good idea or not.

The user's family and friends are outsiders and pretty irrelevent if you ask me.

How is statuary rape comparable to a crime that only hurts the victim's families? With statuary rape, the person who actually had sex with the criminal is the victim. With a crime that hurts someone's friends/family indirectly they didn't necisarily do anything.

I agree about people under 16 not being able to decide on sex, but I think there's no good way to punish two 15 year olds for having sex (if you punish them both you're punishing the victim, if you're gonna send the oldest to jail you're deciding who the victim is with nitpicking, if you send the male to jail you're sexist) so I think it's best we keep the age of consent laws to stop pedophiles.

 

[Kogarian]

Now why the hell would I make the government's job of being a overbearing asshole even easier? I'm not sure about you guys, but I'm tired of American states making certain sex positions illegal, I'm tired of them saying how bad pot is but that alcohols okay, and I'm tired of them actually trying to out-law evolution being taught.

 

[sky14kemea]

no, i'd try to get them to stop, but i'd never rat them out XD

 

[0thello]

No, why would I want my friend put in a rape room because he had the wrong vegetation in his pocket only for himself?

I'm for the most part an anarchist so no I ain't snitching for that.

 

[mike1921]

Lets say you have a friend who committed a victimless crime such as: used an illegal drug, owned/carried a weapon illegaly(not including explosives/WMD's)or had sex with a prostitute. I wouldn't turn them in and hope you wouldn't either.

Prostitution is not a victimless crime. Those women are abused and forced into their profession by men who subject them to drug addiction and rape. They aren't there for you to have a jolly good time with, you're a disgusting person.

.....While I'm positive that happens a lot, there are probably some prostitutes that do it out of their own free will.

Also, he's not a disgusting person for not knowing about prostitution.

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

My actual friends? No. Never unless it factors into being for the good. (Like if they were on drugs and going crazy I would.)

Aquanitices? When it in my best interest.

 

[mike1921]

Lets say you have a friend who committed a victimless crime such as: used an illegal drug, owned/carried a weapon illegaly(not including explosives/WMD's)or had sex with a prostitute. I wouldn't turn them in and hope you wouldn't either.

Prostitution is not a victimless crime. Those women are abused and forced into their profession by men who subject them to drug addiction and rape. They aren't there for you to have a jolly good time with, you're a disgusting person.

.....While I'm positive that happens a lot, there are probably some prostitutes that do it out of their own free will.

Also, he's not a disgusting person for not knowing about prostitution.

Yes because all women will whore them selves out for 20 dollars. I don't know what misogynistic view you hold but women don't love to just lay themselves down for you to have your way with them just because you have money.

The one's who do it "willingly", as you say, do it because it's that or die in the street, and even then you are contributing to the problem by abusing them like so.

how presumptuous. I never said that all women would whore them selves out for 20$. Also, while I agree about women in general not being willing to (If it's a job, than your expectation shouldn't be loving it, it should be willing to do it), that doesn't mean that there aren't any who'd be willing to.

and you think it'd be better to allow them to die in the street? I know you're gonna call me misogynistic for this but I don't care, I'd rather a woman be a prostitute than dead. The problem is that there are people dieing on the streets, them resorting to prostitution is a measure of how bad the problem is.

 

[DisturbiaWolf13]

Um... Crimes can't be victimless... That's why crimes are crimes, because there are victims...

what about illegal grugs? can you be a victim of your own crime?

 

[Xvito]

Um... Crimes can't be victimless... That's why crimes are crimes, because there are victims...

what about illegal grugs? can you be a victim of your own crime?

By my definition: if there is no victim there is no crime, I ain't saying the establishment agrees with me.

 

[mike1921]

Lets say you have a friend who committed a victimless crime such as: used an illegal drug, owned/carried a weapon illegaly(not including explosives/WMD's)or had sex with a prostitute. I wouldn't turn them in and hope you wouldn't either.

Prostitution is not a victimless crime. Those women are abused and forced into their profession by men who subject them to drug addiction and rape. They aren't there for you to have a jolly good time with, you're a disgusting person.

.....While I'm positive that happens a lot, there are probably some prostitutes that do it out of their own free will.

Also, he's not a disgusting person for not knowing about prostitution.

Yes because all women will whore them selves out for 20 dollars. I don't know what misogynistic view you hold but women don't love to just lay themselves down for you to have your way with them just because you have money.

The one's who do it "willingly", as you say, do it because it's that or die in the street, and even then you are contributing to the problem by abusing them like so.

how presumptuous. I never said that all women would whore them selves out for 20$. Also, while I agree about women in general not being willing to (If it's a job, than your expectation shouldn't be loving it, it should be willing to do it), that doesn't mean that there aren't any who'd be willing to.

and you think it'd be better to allow them to die in the street? The problem is that there are people dieing on the streets, them resorting to prostitution is a measure of how bad the problem is.

Better or not, that's up to the person to decide for themselves. But the simple fact is that these women are being violated. They don't cry tears of happiness because your gods gift to us women and lordy how kind of you to pay us for what is rightfully yours, they cry because you're degrading and humiliating them. You violate their very body, but it's ok right?

Cause your such a sex machine that they like, no really that one hooker even gave the money back as a thanks.

EDIT: Also fuck your "They don't have to like their "job" they just have to do it"

....wtf, you act as if I said every man alive is entitled to a prostitute. Also, if you're crying about it you're in the wrong profession. Maybe this is just a guy thing but there are very few things that I wouldn't do for money just for being degrading and humiliating.

Hey, I never said anyone has to be a prostitute.

 

[mike1921]

Lets say you have a friend who committed a victimless crime such as: used an illegal drug, owned/carried a weapon illegaly(not including explosives/WMD's)or had sex with a prostitute. I wouldn't turn them in and hope you wouldn't either.

Prostitution is not a victimless crime. Those women are abused and forced into their profession by men who subject them to drug addiction and rape. They aren't there for you to have a jolly good time with, you're a disgusting person.

.....While I'm positive that happens a lot, there are probably some prostitutes that do it out of their own free will.

Also, he's not a disgusting person for not knowing about prostitution.

Yes because all women will whore them selves out for 20 dollars. I don't know what misogynistic view you hold but women don't love to just lay themselves down for you to have your way with them just because you have money.

The one's who do it "willingly", as you say, do it because it's that or die in the street, and even then you are contributing to the problem by abusing them like so.

how presumptuous. I never said that all women would whore them selves out for 20$. Also, while I agree about women in general not being willing to (If it's a job, than your expectation shouldn't be loving it, it should be willing to do it), that doesn't mean that there aren't any who'd be willing to.

and you think it'd be better to allow them to die in the street? The problem is that there are people dieing on the streets, them resorting to prostitution is a measure of how bad the problem is.

Better or not, that's up to the person to decide for themselves. But the simple fact is that these women are being violated. They don't cry tears of happiness because your gods gift to us women and lordy how kind of you to pay us for what is rightfully yours, they cry because you're degrading and humiliating them. You violate their very body, but it's ok right?

Cause your such a sex machine that they like, no really that one hooker even gave the money back as a thanks.

EDIT: Also fuck your "They don't have to like their "job" they just have to do it"

....wtf, you act as if I said every man alive is entitled to a prostitute. Also, if you're crying about it you're in the wrong profession. Maybe this is just a guy thing but there are very few things that I wouldn't do for money just for being degrading and humiliating.

Hey, I never said anyone has to be a prostitute.

It isn't a god damn profession. No little girl ever looked up to her mother "Mommy I wanna be a hooker when I grow up and be beaten by men like Mike! I want to be ashamed of my self when I look in the mirror and wait patiently for my man to beat his chest and come have his way with me." Those sure as hell weren't my dreams as a little girl.

We aren't here for your mating pleasures. Sure you may not realize how to interact with us "vagina holders" since you're always behind your Xbox and computer, but you are a pathetic little man. If I had balls, they'd be bigger then yours.

A profession has to be desireable? I doubt very few little girls looked up at their mother and said "mommy, I wanna work at mcdonalds". Also, I never said I'd beat them.


..........I never said you were. I also never said a mcDonalds employee's sole purpose in life is to hand me a burger. Shut up about me not knowing how to interact with girls, you have no fucking clue how I treat them.

 

[timmytom1]

No and if anyone i know did that to a freind i`d break off contact

 

[RollForInitiative]

I don't generally keep counsel with people prone to those sorts of things anyways, so I don't really have the perspective to answer that question accurately. I'll have to abstain from voting one way or the other.

 

[Easykill]

There are no victimless crimes. No matter how small this crime...there is always an effect on someones life.

This has been repeated multiple times in this thread, and irks me greatly.

Oral sex is illegal in more than one American state. This makes it a crime. Now, can anybody tell me how giving your boyfriend head hurts anybody at all? I'm going to be very presumptuous here and say that nobody can. Hence, it is a victimless crime. Just because the local authority says "thou shalt not" doesn't mean there's anything inherently wrong with doing it.

Now, on to the topic, I would not report a friend for a victimless crime, which I am for the purposes of this post defining as "something forbidden by law, but which harms nobody except possibly the perpetrator". For one thing, for a lot of such crimes, I have no moral objection. For another, even if I disagreed with it, I would not condemn a friend without trying to help them. If I turned them in, it would help nobody, destroy our friendship and quite possibly that friend's whole life.

Basically, this.