Poll: If Jesus ran for president, would you vote for him?
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You know Elton John believes in Jesus and thinks he was gay. This obviously angered some people :/ Just thought it was interesting.Outright Villainy said:
Something else to consider, It said in the bible that jesus will come back to take over but "It's a TRAP!" jesus isn't the first to come back. First we get the Antichrist who clames to be god incarnate, he puts his mark on us and rules for 7 years killing everyone who keeps faith and being just evil after 7 years everyone else goes to hell and the world is destroyed. (Don't quote me I got some facts wrong, but the bible does say this)emeraldrafael said:
Fuck no. I never vote for president anyway.
Now if he ran for Prime Minister, that might be a different story. I'd have to take a look at his election platform though. However, if he was running for the Bloq, then just no. NEVER! If he ran for the Conservatives or the Liberals, he'll probably get a vote from me.
Now if he ran for Prime Minister, that might be a different story. I'd have to take a look at his election platform though. However, if he was running for the Bloq, then just no. NEVER! If he ran for the Conservatives or the Liberals, he'll probably get a vote from me.
Despite not being eligible for many reasons, I still wouldn't. Not for any reason against him, but he was alive 2000 years ago. He wouldnt have a good understanding of todays politics and how things work around here.
By the way, Jesus never even mentioned saying that gays are bad.
By the way, Jesus never even mentioned saying that gays are bad.
I hang out with my bud Jesus every second Sunday of the month and I would definitely vote for him.
He's a gnarly dude, just ask him about that time with James and Bob at the petting zoo and you'll see know I mean.
He's a gnarly dude, just ask him about that time with James and Bob at the petting zoo and you'll see know I mean.
Do Capitalist countries not advocate that everyone is the same? Isnt that one of the founding principles of America? Besides i think that saying that one race of people is intrinsically superior to another goes against that pretty well, not that political leaders in communist countries dont usually live in large mansions with large fortunes, but how many US politicians are millionares. Good intentions don't make a good philosopy, but what form of government HASNT been related to a slaughter, should democracies be blamed because Hitler was a democratically elected leader?Rex Fallout said:
Also, the likening of the Nazis to the Republican party was meant in a sense that they share a lot of political ideology, in the sense that the Nazi party held political views and rallied strongly against the socialist systems that they blamed for poverty. The Nazy party is however not known for its politics, but rather for the paranoid, syphilitic leader who led it into a faschist, bigoted war machine. It is far too often associated with Communism.
Jesus specifically does say you are obliged to help the poor "thou shalt not harden thine heart, nor shut thine hand from thy poor brother". Im very confused as to why you think socialism destroyes history, particulairly since Socialist democracies exist today, including Sweden, one of the countries that consistently ranks in the top 10 quality of living so do alot of other left wing democratic nations. You will be hard pressed to find any sucessfull country that hasnt abandoned "pure" capitalism in favor of social securities. I would also contest that 2 of your communist country examples are invalid because they were largely affected by capitalist nations Russia's economy collapsed because of the cold war, and Cuba's economy collapsed because their largest and closest trading partner declaired a boycott on all goods to and from them, after this they have managed lower crime unemployment and homelessness that the US of A.
Another thing, Socialism is not Communism they are different ideologies on the same end of the spectrum. Socialism is not about collective property control, Socialism also does not demand equal pay for everyone but ideally distributes wealth based on production efforts, usually just pays a salary and isnt much different from the system of most democratic countries just with fewer millionares. You say the healthcare in America is fine, im safe too, i have health insurance, but have you been following the issues with the 9/11 responders? Are they lazy because they got too sick to work? Is anyone who lost their job because of cancer lazy? You can't honestly think people should die just because they cant continue to be productive can you?
As for the cannibal statement, i stand by it. Every inventor of any modern device has shamelessly borrowed from past ideas its how society advances, and if a politician can take an idea and put it to use why shouldnt they ideas are free, people take them all the time its how capitalism works. The lives of fallen soldiers are tragic and politicians often try to use this to generate political leverage, still Cannibal is definetly the wrong word for this anyway, most sitting politicians are shamelessly oportunistic, but this also reflects who we vote for rather than what politicians are, if people are swayed by charasmatic snake oil salesmen then they bring it on themselves. We also do often tend to focus on the negative i would be willing to bet the number of politicians in your riding who you havent heard of vastly outweigh the ones who can be convicted of wrongdoing.
The Roman sentiment, I thought it was pretty obvious I was saying it was not in fact literal, and since there is more to it in the bible than just rememberance that i thout it was relevent to the socialist debate. My pastor used to say "His life becomes our life and we become members of each other" it was her modern way of saying "we, who are many, are one body". This sense of unity is remarkably similar to socialist dogma expressided in both communist countries and modern socialist democracies it is also verbatim from a Christian textbook an the bible respectively.
Although I agree that there should be Separation between Church and State, it is never referenced an any document on a federal level, in fact the term "Separation between Church and State" only came about in a letter written by Thomas Jefferson but never made it into the constitution.Aris Khandr said:
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If Jesus himself ran for president it would be a interesting outcome, I wonder if jesus himself could avoid media scrutiny. He would probably be to soft on everything.
Hey guys. Earlier i made a comment on the Catholic Church and wanted to apologize for them. It was off topic and not subject to the poll. It's my beliefs thats all.
All of us are talking about separation of church and state and how there an atheist or something like that but thats not what this thread was about. It's about whether or not you would for Jesus Christ if he ran for president. I personally don't see why we need to bring in our beliefs into this article. I am sorry for doing so earlier. I have been branded a hypocrite but I promise if you do your research in your bible you will see i'm not. Again this topic, I assume, was not mean't to start a battle of believers verses atheists. It was a simple question.
Again I apologize for earlier remarks. I'm really here to talk about games and talk to people who have similar interests so please don't flame me for the rest of my time on escapist.
Thanks guys.
All of us are talking about separation of church and state and how there an atheist or something like that but thats not what this thread was about. It's about whether or not you would for Jesus Christ if he ran for president. I personally don't see why we need to bring in our beliefs into this article. I am sorry for doing so earlier. I have been branded a hypocrite but I promise if you do your research in your bible you will see i'm not. Again this topic, I assume, was not mean't to start a battle of believers verses atheists. It was a simple question.
Again I apologize for earlier remarks. I'm really here to talk about games and talk to people who have similar interests so please don't flame me for the rest of my time on escapist.
Thanks guys.
You don't know enough about Jesus Christ to answer this poll. The gospels are inconsistent and show a man that would be completely at odds with modern views. There is no historical account of a Jesus of Nazareth to judge his character properly on. All we have is the gospels written a life time after his death, and amount to little more than conjecture.
A candidate with Jesus' views as expressed in the gospels could not be elected. For example, on family values. When his mother requests his company, he says that the crowd are his mother and brothers and sisters, Mark 3:31. At a wedding Mary said to him, ?They have no more wine." and he rebuked her harshly. ?Woman, why do you involve me? My hour has not yet come.? He stated "I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household." Matt 10:35 and Luke 12:53. "If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26. When a disciple asked for a break to go bury his father, Jesus rebuked him and said let the dead bury the dead. How many presidents have not had strong family values, and not had wives and children?
This is a man who said anyone who doesn't follow him shall not enter heaven (Matt 10:33), how can such a person be fit to rule a secular country? But, if Jesus existed and was truly the son of god, of course he would be elected, regardless of what his opinions were. You can't vote against a demigod?!
A candidate with Jesus' views as expressed in the gospels could not be elected. For example, on family values. When his mother requests his company, he says that the crowd are his mother and brothers and sisters, Mark 3:31. At a wedding Mary said to him, ?They have no more wine." and he rebuked her harshly. ?Woman, why do you involve me? My hour has not yet come.? He stated "I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household." Matt 10:35 and Luke 12:53. "If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26. When a disciple asked for a break to go bury his father, Jesus rebuked him and said let the dead bury the dead. How many presidents have not had strong family values, and not had wives and children?
This is a man who said anyone who doesn't follow him shall not enter heaven (Matt 10:33), how can such a person be fit to rule a secular country? But, if Jesus existed and was truly the son of god, of course he would be elected, regardless of what his opinions were. You can't vote against a demigod?!
