Poll: If you were a superhero would you kill criminals?

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MarsProbe

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If they deserved it, then yes. And who to decide whether or not they deserved it? Well me of course, being the one with the superpowers! :D
 

sheic99

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rossatdi said:
sheic99 said:
Before you blame Marvel, look towards Watchmen. Alan Moore and Frank Miller popularized the anti-hero. I've read reprints of the issues of Spiderman with the Punisher and he is portrayed as a villain.

OT: I'd probably fall somewhere between Rorschach and the Punsisher. I would avoid killing except for people who really deserved it, but otherwise I would beat the shit out of criminals.
Easy there. Alan Moore said he designed Rorschach to be detestable, it was people that read heroism into him. Admittedly I actually side with at the end, not because of his previous actions but just the "one more body amongst the foundation" line. There is a moral line, he draws his differently to me, but there is a line.
I underlined Watchmen, only because you are supposed to underline books. I forgot to underline Spiderman. It was not supposed to be used an a method of emphasis.
 

rossatdi

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PedroSteckecilo said:
Actually, I have another question for the folk here?

Would you want to be the only super powered being on earth (you're considerably Stronger, Tougher and Faster than anyone else)?

I know I wouldn't, that much power would corrupt me.
I would feel honoured to have that power but I believe I would struggle without compatriots. I'd exhaust myself trying to help. To be one amongst a handful of the Bold and the Brave would be my desire. The Green Arrow is a particular hero I like. Him and Batman. Oh, and the Flash.
 

sheic99

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rossatdi said:
Rajin Cajun said:
rossatdi said:
I weep for society, I really do!

I'm glad I have Batman, Superman, Flash and Spiderman on my side. The Justice League would be very upset with the lot of you.

Where are your ideals? When did it become cool to be a murdering psychopath?
Pfft Carebear. This is the first time I felt hope for humanity with enough like minded bloodthirsty vigilantes it could be possible to create a League of Vigilantes and let death sweep the land similar to Boondock Saints. A good rash of vigilantism could fix a shitload of problems in the Western World especially the corrupt and overbloated bureaucracy that makes up the majority of all Western Justice systems and that works hand in hand with organized crime.
Violence only breeds violence. Assuming we were all super powered I'd fight against your League of Vigilantes till my last breath. Ours is a sacred responsibility, we should be the best humanity can be at that means exhibiting mercy and restraint along with strength and justice.

Me and the League of Guardians might lose, and the public might have thought we're too soft, but there will come a time when they realize your lack of restraint is a burden not a boon!
How do you plan to stop an armed robber without violence? At what point do you stopping being a hero and a villain for you? Vigilantes are confronted with hypocrisy daily. A vigilante is illegal because of the acts they do (assault, breaking and entering, robbery etc.) Are you truly better than the people you attempting to stop only because you seek justice or do you deserve to go to prison when everything is finished?
 

The Iron Ninja

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I voted "yes-Petty Criminals"... But that seems a little too softcore.

How about a "Yes, even ten year old shoplifters" option?
 

varulfic

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No I wouldn't. A superhero needs the support of the people, which will be lost if I turn homocidal. So it's more politics then personal ideals.
 

rossatdi

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sheic99 said:
How do you plan to stop an armed robber without violence? At what point do you stopping being a hero and a villain for you? Vigilantes are confronted with hypocrisy daily. A vigilante is illegal because of the acts they do (assault, breaking and entering, robbery etc.) Are you truly better than the people you attempting to stop only because you seek justice or do you deserve to go to prison when everything is finished?
If you have to be more violent than the criminal then that is too far. It's not something that can easily be lain in stone, it is a matter of sense. The exercise of Duty, Strength, Clemency and Wisdom. A true superhero's actions may be technically illegal but they are not immoral. In fact Batman and Superman have both been respectively deputised in various times.

The key thing is that a superhero is not jury. He may physically stop and incidence or put a person in custody but he must leave the sentencing up to the police, those legally entrusted with the right to collect legal evidence. It is a thin line but one that must be walked.

Because it is difficult does not make it not worth seeking.
 

rossatdi

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No I wouldn't. A superhero needs the support of the people, which will be lost if I turn homocidal. So it's more politics then personal ideals.
Well that's at least one step in the right direction!
 

MrShrike

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id base my approach on the level of crime in the city
Exp: gotham city- overrun with criminals and corrupt cops- harsher justice than other cities
Metropolis- well ordered and not particulary degenerate- less harsh and slightly more forgiving.

Id offer redemption to those who honestly repent and if they abuse that trust in thier humanity id through them in jail.

Id only consider killing if the threat was beyond imagination (alien invaision) or the amount of deaths was reaching the population level of small countries (Joker).

while vigilantism is inevitable when forced to take the law into your own hands, it dosnt need to consume your entire mind in order to promote justice
 

sheic99

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rossatdi said:
sheic99 said:
How do you plan to stop an armed robber without violence? At what point do you stopping being a hero and a villain for you? Vigilantes are confronted with hypocrisy daily. A vigilante is illegal because of the acts they do (assault, breaking and entering, robbery etc.) Are you truly better than the people you attempting to stop only because you seek justice or do you deserve to go to prison when everything is finished?
If you have to be more violent than the criminal then that is too far. It's not something that can easily be lain in stone, it is a matter of sense. The exercise of Duty, Strength, Clemency and Wisdom. A true superhero's actions may be technically illegal but they are not immoral. In fact Batman and Superman have both been respectively deputised in various times.

The key thing is that a superhero is not jury. He may physically stop and incidence or put a person in custody but he must leave the sentencing up to the police, those legally entrusted with the right to collect legal evidence. It is a thin line but one that must be walked.

Because it is difficult does not make it not worth seeking.
A problem with mobs, a major source of crime in the US, is they are very careful with what they do, so evidence is hard to get. And their swanky lawyers will claim that all evidence the superhero gathers to be gained illegally and without a warrant and cannot be used in court. The same occurs for drug cartels, no one wants to touch them. How would you handle this problem?
 

Toner

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Hmm, tricky.

I'd probably use force to end situations, but not take it too far....

One basic warning, then bam, action-fight-sequence (without the Simon-Says QTEs). Always giving the criminal a chance to reprieve their actions and basically give up I think is necessary. After all, if they do it again then you can just assume that their first-warning was not heard, and its time for some rather less vocal diplomacy.

Person with a Knife? Ooh, would be tricky to hold without a hand
Person with a gun? Even trickier to use without an arm.
Robbing an old lady? Well a broken-bone stint in hospital after the Old Lady has had some 'reparations' from the muggers wallet should be enough.
Person with explosives? Ok, he can blow himself up. After I put him in a random field hundreds of miles from anyone.

Sure this would relatively be scalded upon by the public, but putting people off with physical violence is sometimes the only deterrent for criminals. That and a really cool costume that whooshes at the right moments.
 

rossatdi

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sheic99 said:
A problem with mobs, a major source of crime in the US, is they are very careful with what they do, so evidence is hard to get. And their swanky lawyers will claim that all evidence the superhero gathers to be gained illegally and without a warrant and cannot be used in court. The same occurs for drug cartels, no one wants to touch them. How would you handle this problem?
I'm not actually a superhero! Killing the culprits is not the answer! Of course its not easy, thats the problem. Also superheroes are ver much an immediate situation saver rather than a long term judicial body.
 

gigastrike

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Depends on my power. If I had a rope that makes people tell the truth like wonder woman (or be able to turn into water) then it's not like I'd have a fighting advantage or anything.
 

Littaly

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I voted extreme cases, and with extreme cases I mean self-defense. I don't believe that every criminal deserves to die for their crime, some to many may do it to keep themselves alive. I barley believe that violence needs to be the solution, I'd be the Jedi kind of superhero I guess.

Though that is only if were looking at the scenario you presented, if there was some kind of back story as to why I was a superhero I could have done it differently. If say my family and friends died in a terrorist attack, I'd dedicate my whole life to be an a-hole hunting down and killing every single one for revenge ^^
 
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If I had superpowers, even the innocent bystanders wouldn't be safe. There is no good and bad when you have superpowers, the world is just a sandbox.
 

spuddyt

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assuming I was massively overpowered to the extent of not fearing the law - I would kill some, and forcibly move others to prisons (like, put them there, and if they take them out, put them in again realllllly quickly..)
 

Limos

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Yep, I would kill the criminals. But I'd also kill other people, and steal things, and blow stuff up.

Which I guess would make me not much of a hero would it?
 

klc0100

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I loved dare devils approach of "I will try to put them in jail and if that doesn't work I'll just kill em"