See Extra Credit's video on Project $10 for this, and you'd kinda get the idea why they're doing it, if they are at all for MK (still a rumor I believe). I do agree with what Daniel suggested they do instead though.
Poll: I'm going to buy Mortal Kombat Used just out of Spite.
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No, I'm not with you.
I saw videos and previews. I liked what I saw. I will support the makers by getting this game on day one (and because I like my games new). If I happened to enjoy the game as much as I think I will, then great, as I've supported the developers so that they can create more products that I might enjoy in the future. If not, then I'm assed out a couple dozen or so dollars and there's no one to blame but myself.
Doing something like that just sounds juvenile. Is that you, OP? A juvenile delinquent out to stick it to the Man?
I saw videos and previews. I liked what I saw. I will support the makers by getting this game on day one (and because I like my games new). If I happened to enjoy the game as much as I think I will, then great, as I've supported the developers so that they can create more products that I might enjoy in the future. If not, then I'm assed out a couple dozen or so dollars and there's no one to blame but myself.
Doing something like that just sounds juvenile. Is that you, OP? A juvenile delinquent out to stick it to the Man?
"I'll show you! I'm going to buy the less-featured version just to stick it to the man!"
I'm buying it new, just like every game I've ever bought. What they do to recoup the money that rentals and GameStop steal from them is none of my concern, so long as it doesn't affect their core fans. This solution seems great to me.
I'm buying it new, just like every game I've ever bought. What they do to recoup the money that rentals and GameStop steal from them is none of my concern, so long as it doesn't affect their core fans. This solution seems great to me.
Oh, I'm fairly certain they wouldn't be dumb enough to lock local multiplayer. Personally, I don't need online multiplayer at all. That being said, I know that I'm the exception in the gaming community, not the rule. Most people play some sort of multiplayer games, even if it's only one or two. We live in an age where multiplayer is a given, and it's central to Mortal Kombat. Locking multiplayer in games where multiplayer isn't why you'd inherently want to play the game isn't a huge deal to me...if I never saw multiplayer in GTA, Red Dead Redemption, even in games that grew to have massive multiplayer support with it being the original intent (Starcraft, FPS games), it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. But locking multiplayer in a game where playing against other people is the core of the experience is the biggest dick move I can imagine.Nohra said:
You know the purpose of exposure is to get people to buy the game right? They don't care if you've heard of their game if you won't give them money for it.ChromeAlchemist said:
I'm not trying to put words in your mouth but you bring to my mind a good point:Vakz said:
Publishers may have to decide what's more damaging to their revenue: used game sales or pirating.
It seems that their tactics at curbing used game sales might increase the amount of gamers who decide to just get their games for free.
The thing is that it's not really pointless and it isn't really a cause either.ZeroDotZero said:
I just think gamers need to stick up for themselves more. We get overcharged for all sorts of crap and because we're easier to victimize, the publishers will just try to charge us more in various different ways rather than just making a game that's actually worth $60 (and I want MK mostly out of nostalgia so it isn't) or going after the retailer that turned the used game market into a drain on the industry.
These publishers weren't complaining about used game sales before Gamestop got its metamonopoly and gouged the prices up to $57.99. Because they were impulse buys back then. Now used games cost about the same so where one might have 10 years ago walked in and bought a used game AND a new one, they have to now decide between the two.
I think they need to stop punishing gamers for the practices of retailers.
I want a new copy and this is just to make sure the company gets some cut of used sales. I think it's perfectly fair. New players get online free while used players need to give the company they tried to cheat out of some money some money.
Oh you rebel you fight the man.
Seriously though I support you and will probably do the same since I don't play online. I do see where pubs are coming for and it would be great if all DLC bar proper expansions were included in the purchase if you bought the game new. Although if you are doing multiplayer it should be free with single player.
Seriously though I support you and will probably do the same since I don't play online. I do see where pubs are coming for and it would be great if all DLC bar proper expansions were included in the purchase if you bought the game new. Although if you are doing multiplayer it should be free with single player.
Video game companies are businesses. Businesses have to make unpopular decisions in order to secure their ability to remain profitable. You can cry "I'm entitled to free multiplayer!" all you want. You're less entitled to it than these companies are to earning money for their work.Snake Plissken said:
If you really want always free multiplayer, you could always move over to a PC. But then you'd have to suffer through being unable to buy or find used copies. And you can forget rentals.
I'm just not going to buy it PERIOD. But that's mainly due to lack of interest and not those online pass things.
Incentives to buy used in the form of multiplayer access are a joke, because A. not everyone wants to play online and B. who wants to pay for the "privilege" of being verbally assaulted and griefed while playing their game?
Case in point: I decided to play a little NFS: Hot Pursuit online yesterday. As the online lobby booted up I could hear a couple of guys talking on their headseats. For some reason I just had a bad feeling that this was going to be a bad session. And I was right. The first few races were fine (I was playing Hot Pursuit, actually) and then in the 3rd or 4th race I was a racer. I guess these two buddies or a few guys got split up between the cops and racers teams because about a third of the way into the race, one of the other racers, i.e. not a cop, pulled in front of me and dropped a spike strip. Like, blatantly. It wasn't an accident and he wasn't gunning for a cop, he did it to me to help out his buddies on the cop team.
I didn't even rage quit, I just quit the game right then and there, ejected NFS and decided to finally open up and play my copy of Enslaved.
Seriously, publishers, why would I buy new or pay for the online pass when online play subjects me to jerks like that, people there just to ruin the fun for other people. No thanks. Give me a real reason to purchase a new copy and I will, but online play is not a selling point.
However, I know I'm in the minority here, and my voice will be drowned out in a chorus of online taunts (******, noob, ************, etc.), so I simply will not buy your games new if they don't offer me something at that price.
Case in point: I decided to play a little NFS: Hot Pursuit online yesterday. As the online lobby booted up I could hear a couple of guys talking on their headseats. For some reason I just had a bad feeling that this was going to be a bad session. And I was right. The first few races were fine (I was playing Hot Pursuit, actually) and then in the 3rd or 4th race I was a racer. I guess these two buddies or a few guys got split up between the cops and racers teams because about a third of the way into the race, one of the other racers, i.e. not a cop, pulled in front of me and dropped a spike strip. Like, blatantly. It wasn't an accident and he wasn't gunning for a cop, he did it to me to help out his buddies on the cop team.
I didn't even rage quit, I just quit the game right then and there, ejected NFS and decided to finally open up and play my copy of Enslaved.
Seriously, publishers, why would I buy new or pay for the online pass when online play subjects me to jerks like that, people there just to ruin the fun for other people. No thanks. Give me a real reason to purchase a new copy and I will, but online play is not a selling point.
However, I know I'm in the minority here, and my voice will be drowned out in a chorus of online taunts (******, noob, ************, etc.), so I simply will not buy your games new if they don't offer me something at that price.
I'm not with you, nor anyone who agrees with any ideas similar just in the name of 'spite'. Spite is not as tough a word as you would think. In fact, here's what 'spite' means, according to merriam-webster.com, just in case.GonzoGamer said:
'spite': petty ill will or hatred with the disposition to irritate, annoy, or thwart.
Note the use of the word 'petty' in there.
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I'm buying the CE new on Day 1, and if you DO buy the game used, you'll have to fork over for the online pass anyway, IF it is real and if you wish to try the online play. Remember, that this is still considered a rumor, so don't blow your top this soon, unless you have proof that this is real.
Otherwise, I support MK over other fighting games, especially Super Street Fighter 4 and MvC 3 considering how much Capcom seems to want to gouge us for stuff these days. Speaking of, why is another version of many of Capcom's recent games OK with people on this site, while a 10$ online pass for one game isn't? That sounds like hypocrisy to me.
What's funny is that I work at a bar where we have XBoxes and PS3s as an attraction for people to come in. I watch people playing various games I'd never personally play (due to lack of interest or ability - I'm awful at fighting games), and out of all of the fighting games I've seen played, the new Mortal Kombat looks the most like my kind of game. I like that it seems slower than other fighters and that you build your own combos. It's very fun watching someone pull off a good chain.AgentBJ09 said:
Phew. Thank god I couldn't care less, for playing fighters online. If I did, I sure as hell wouldn't cough up money to play it online.
OT: I agree with what you want to do, but I really don't think it will stop companies from pulling these shenanigans. Oh well, time will tell.
OT: I agree with what you want to do, but I really don't think it will stop companies from pulling these shenanigans. Oh well, time will tell.
Have you played the demo? It's pretty damn good.Onyx Oblivion said:
And bear in mind that as games, I hate the Mortal Kombat series.
I don't really think I'm entitled to free multiplayer, nor is anyone else. Nobody's entitled to it, but it is expected to be part of the package for a lot of people. It's not entitlement, it's tradition...games get released with multiplayer. All they are doing is alienating a large chunk of their target audience. As I said before, though, they aren't offering an incentive to buy new. What they are doing is offering an imperative.Nohra said:
You're right, though. They are a business and they are entitled to profit from their hard work. This will probably end up being one of those unpopular decisions that you mentioned that businesses have to make in order to stay ahead of the curve. I'll go one further though...not only is this an unpopular decision, I think it's a stupid decision. Not because I disagree with what they're doing or anything, not because I don't think they deserve their game to be purchased new, but because I think that this plan will ultimately fail.
I've decided not to buy any game new that has DLC that is announced during development and before release.
Its bullshit plain and simple the price of games have gone up, and thats understandable given the rise in quality but this bullshit practice of making content then removing it for even more profit is unacceptable. A new game needs to have all content made during development that passed their quality of standards, not later on.
So when the game is in the 30 dollar range I might pick it up. Playing fighting games online isn't that big a deal for me so I don't care all that much.
Its bullshit plain and simple the price of games have gone up, and thats understandable given the rise in quality but this bullshit practice of making content then removing it for even more profit is unacceptable. A new game needs to have all content made during development that passed their quality of standards, not later on.
So when the game is in the 30 dollar range I might pick it up. Playing fighting games online isn't that big a deal for me so I don't care all that much.