Poll: I'm going to buy Mortal Kombat Used just out of Spite.

[UltimateZero]

I've never been a fan of the whole "renew license" deal that publishers are digging up all of a sudden. Exclusive DLC I'm fine with, as long as everyone gets their own. That way I at least have a choice, right? Do I want the extra character, or do I want cool looking weapons? Hmmmm. I'll probably end up buying the game new regardless, because it looks like they've done their best to bring it back to the classics while adding features that enhance rather than get in the way.

I have to say though, remember the good ol' days when you'd buy a game, and all of the content for said game was right on the disc? You just needed that one disc, and you were set. Those were the days...

Why shouldn't developers and publishers earn money from the games they've made for you to buy?

The additional $10 will still likely leave you paying less than you would new anyway. Get over it.

Truth. At least in Gamestop's case, they actually knock a few EXTRA dollars off for the inconvenience of having to buy an extra license to do something. So actually yes, you pay less for a game with a license renewal than you do for one without that "feature. $47.99+5.00 vs $54.99. Or in MK's case it'll probably be $42.99.

Know what's fun? Going into Gamestop with 6 games, getting $10 in credit, and watching them put those games back on the shelf for $60 each.

The used game industry is a scaaaaaam.

As much as I feel like a tool saying this, that "scam" is how I get paid every month. It's a business model. Gamestop makes very little to nothing for new game sales or accessories, there's no way they'd stay in business on that alone. That markup on used pays for the bills to keep the store open, restocking, employee paychecks, shipping costs for requesting a specific game you want that's not in that store at the moment, special events for midnight launches, therapy for employees dealing with customers who take their frustrations about trade-in prices out on whoever's in front of them... *cough*

This is going to sound like a sales pitch, but you have to shop smarter, seriously. There are sales going on all the time. Hell, there's one right now. There are trade-in deals that add as much as 50% sometimes. I've noticed that more often than not, at least with our customers, the ones that absolutely REFUSE to get emails from us are also the ones complaining about prices. Doesn't take a genius to see the pattern, seeing as that's where most of the ads for special deals go.

 

[teebeeohh]

the poll is lacking my option of choice:
i would rather give my money to the companies making games than to the retailers so i am ok with stuff like project 10$

 

[josemlopes]

I see no point in this, if you buy the game new (like people should do) you will get the full content and if you buy it used (supporting only the store that sold you the game) you et limited access. It makes sence to me.

What would suck was if you bought the game new, but then the multiplayer would come as DLC a few months later costing 10$.

(BTW: Wasnt this that happened with Resident Evil 5 with the multiplayer?)

 

[-Samurai-]

So, I guess by pre-ordering it, and using the code, but never(and I mean never. I will never play a fighting game online) going online, I'm doing it to spite all the people that are buying it used to spite the developers and publishers.

Works for me.

 

[Nohra]

This is going to sound like a sales pitch, but you have to shop smarter, seriously. There are sales going on all the time. Hell, there's one right now. There are trade-in deals that add as much as 50% sometimes. I've noticed that more often than not, at least with our customers, the ones that absolute REFUSE to get emails from us are also the ones complaining about prices. Doesn't take a genius to see the pattern, seeing as that's where most of the ads for special deals go.

Most of my games come through Steam or Amazon, I can't really stand GameStop. Granted I've been hearing from more than a few employees who come through my place of business that have gotten royally screwed by them. And then there was the former GameStop manager who was on waitstaff.

Besides, when I buy games, I want to keep them. Maybe I'm an odd minority, but then, I don't feel the need to play every single Call of Duty clone ever, either.

 

[Ranma12569]

The question on my mind is what about those of us who rent games? this seems to be about buying either new or used games but some people like myself do rent them sooooo can anyone help here?

 

[Yopaz]

Seriously, is this really an issue? Buy it used and pay for content and the price of the used game will all of a sudden be the same as the price for the new game. They need money to make games, they need a game to sell well to create new games, they're aware of the problems with used games and do this. It's quite reasonable if you ask me. This might be because I've seen the prices GameStop charges for used game... they're not that cheap when you compare it to the prices you can get online for a new game. Often I've seen cheaper new games than their used games.
Stop whining for crying out loud.

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The question on my mind is what about those of us who rent games? this seems to be about buying either new or used games but some people like myself do rent them sooooo can anyone help here?

From what I understood from the article you get a 2 day trial if you buy it used, I guess this goes for renting too. I might have got it wrong though, so I don't really know.

 

[UltimateZero]

Most of my games come through Steam or Amazon, I can't really stand GameStop. Granted I've been hearing from more than a few employees who come through my place of business that have gotten royally screwed by them. And then there was the former GameStop manager who was on waitstaff.

Besides, when I buy games, I want to keep them. Maybe I'm an odd minority, but then, I don't feel the need to play every single Call of Duty clone ever, either.

Yeah, no company is perfect. I've got a rather massive list of complaints of the company myself. You think your experience is bad? Try working for them See, customers may see themselves as being ripped off and voice their opinions about it, but I get to hear those complaints, and THEN I get to hear GameStop corporate making excuses about why it's justified! You should see the emails I send to the various offices when I'm at work. I'm surprised I've been promoted as far as I have, some of them were really sarcastic and downright vicious.

I'd like to think our store is better than most. In our area at least, we're the store that people come to BECAUSE they had horrible service/fed a line of BS/bad juju from another store. That being said, most GS employees don't like their jobs, and I swear some of them go out of their way to make people's lives miserable.

Then again, maybe it's GameStop themselves that are trying to make everyone's lives miserable? Wouldn't surprise me any

Seriously, is this really an issue? Buy it used and pay for content and the price of the used game will all of a sudden be the same as the price for the new game. They need money to make games, they need a game to sell well to create new games, they're aware of the problems with used games and do this. It's quite reasonable if you ask me. This might be because I've seen the prices GameStop charges for used game... they're not that cheap when you compare it to the prices you can get online for a new game. Often I've seen cheaper new games than their used games.
Stop whining for crying out loud.

Also truth. People go to GameStop because it's convenient, not because it's cheap. They're paying the price for the ease of just heading over to a store, rather than putting some info online. On the flipside however, it can go the other way. For instance a copy of My Japanese Coach for the DS goes for as much as $80new/$50used online. Or, you know, you could go to GameStop, request one from another store, and have it in your pocket in a week for $25, tax included.

And now we're back around at the "shop smarter" quip.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

I disagree with anyone who supports this shit, I'm not even lying, it's actually offensive. "We're a business" isn't good enough. People who buy your games used still support you through DLC and exposure.

You know the purpose of exposure is to get people to buy the game right? They don't care if you've heard of their game if you won't give them money for it.

When I said "People who buy your games used still support you through DLC and exposure" I meant "exposure" as in, I bring it to a gaming session with my friends or event, and people play it, and possibly buy it, thus giving it exposure. You obviously can't expose the game to yourself if you've bought it.

You know what happened a week ago? I was at a gaming session in a rented hall, and someone brought a used copy of Battle Phantasia. Everyone who entered a tournament, was pressured into entereing a Battle Phantasia tournament, and while we had no idea what we were doing, we had a great time. Three of my friends said "screw it, I'm buying that game from HMV tomorrow" and surely enough the very next day, they bought that game BRAND NEW.

That company made three sales off of one used copy. Exposure.

 

[EHKOS]

Meh, it has one mechanic that I am interested in so I'm not going to buy it just for the x-ray stuff. Plus I'm a Tekken fan, your controls are too slow for me!

 

[UltimateZero]

oh boo hoo. The problem is that there is no extra content. Itd be like buying a used corvette andnot getting use of all eight cylinders until you pay a ranso- i mean fee. Its bullshit!

Isn't that technically already happening? You can get chips for your car that will remove limits and "unleash the beast", among other things. They're illegal in many states, but why? Because companies want people to buy a hot new, better car for a cost much larger than the actual hardware put into the car itself. I could swear I read an article somewhere about a couple models of car that varied only by the power they put out, and the difference was pretty much just a "legal" chip. I'll have to go dig the thing up.

But yeah, I'd have to agree. I still wish we could go back to the days of disc=content. That's it, no more, no less.

 

[Nohra]

Yeah, no company is perfect. I've got a rather massive list of complaints of the company myself. You think your experience is bad? Try working for them See, customers may see themselves as being ripped off and voice their opinions about it, but I get to hear those complaints, and THEN I get to hear GameStop corporate making excuses about why it's justified! You should see the emails I send to the various offices when I'm at work. I'm surprised I've been promoted as far as I have, some of them were really sarcastic and downright vicious.

I'd like to think our store is better than most. In our area at least, we're the store that people come to BECAUSE they had horrible service/fed a line of BS/bad juju from another store. That being said, most GS employees don't like their jobs, and I swear some of them go out of their way to make people's lives miserable.

Then again, maybe it's GameStop themselves that are trying to make everyone's lives miserable? Wouldn't surprise me any

I like you, my friend.

I don't mind incentives for buying new versus used, but what I do mind is the proliferation of DLC as a means of finishing games out. I really don't want to play through a game (like Mass Effect 2) a week or so after it comes out, then learn that there's MORE TO THE STORY that comes out in six months. I really miss expansion packs, at least then developers tried to make them into their own self-contained story (but you still needed the original game to play them).

 

[TheRealGoochman]

I hate the idea of buying used games, no money goes towards the publishers and thus no money goes towards the developers when someone buys a used game. I would rather spend the money and support the industry than Gamestop.
Publishers are smart for making people pay for online access when they buy used games.

 

[cainx10a]

Don't they like, get no money from used sales? If that's the case, it's no different than piracy. Hence, I do support Day 1 DLCs provided buyers of new copies get them, and online-passes seem justified.

 

[UltimateZero]

I like you, my friend.

I don't mind incentives for buying new versus used, but what I do mind is the proliferation of DLC as a means of finishing games out. I really don't want to play through a game (like Mass Effect 2) a week or so after it comes out, then learn that there's MORE TO THE STORY that comes out in six months. I really miss expansion packs, at least then developers tried to make them into their own self-contained story (but you still needed the original game to play them).

Expansion packs were beautiful.

Following that road, I think my favorite game was Titan Quest. The game was long as heck on its own, had plenty of room to expand, awesome customization of classes, the list goes on. And then the Immortal Throne expansion came along. They added an extra class (and since you could combine two classes at once if you wished, that meant they effectively added NINE whole new ways to play), more gear, better bosses, and a whole new section of the storyline that was almost as long as the original game itself.

And all of that for what... $100 total if you bought them both on release day? That game still gives me much joy, and it's only $20 now.

Don't they like, get no money from used sales? If that's the case, then the Day 1 DLCs, and online-passes seem justified.

Day 1 DLC I have no issues with, as long as everyone gets it. Specific companies (like GameStop) have this fun ability to pay out for EXCLUSIVE AWESOME OMG, and that's annoying. Encouraging people to buy it brand new on the release is definitely cool. That's where they make THEIR money, and I don't see why they should take a hit for their work. Different DLC for each system is alright in my book, but the problem is being able to pay off a company for cooler stuff, which just seems wrong to me.

The online-pass stuff though feels more like an underhanded shot at trying to put said used-selling companies out of business, or at least knock them down a few pegs. "Why would I buy a used one if I have to pay extra for the online pass? Just gimme a new copy."

Game companies are doing this too often nowadays. Look at Dragon Age 2. EA took a pretty obvious shot at Steam by only allowing people to prepurchase AFTER the SE's official deadline passed. "Oh but hey, if you want the SE, we're doing everyone a favor and still allowing people to preorder it on OUR OWN WEBSITE!"

Smooth move EA.

I'm watching you.

Like a Hawke.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

I have a feeling that if you keep to that rule, pretty soon you'll be buying everything used.

I think it's a shitty move on the part of the developers(or publishers)to impliment these policies, but I also don't really care. Online multiplayer just isn't for me.

 

[La Barata]

Screw buying it used, I'm not buying it AT ALL because of this. Boycott, bitches. We need to show them that we can't be pushed around with their bullshit gouging tactics.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

I'm getting it used, but not out of spite. I got Mortal Kombat Vs. DC Universe (don't say anything) and my internet isn't fast enough to make a seamless online game; which is okay for shooters, but in a fighting game it's just too lag-y for a good match. So I don't really need to play this game online.