Poll: Indefinite survival during a zombie apocalypse: Logical?
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As long as they're still alive in a conventional sense,(Need food and stuff) You'd be fin as they'd all eat themselves or starve a la 28 weeks later. And remember folks isolation, not insulation. Being you and your wife on a mountain with a spring and deer is better than you in a death fortress with 500 soldiers.
He's got a point, waiting them out would be the best solution. After a zombie apocalypse breaks out, you hole yourself up in a cozy little corner for about 15 years. By then all the flesh on all zombies would have decayed, the zombie problem defeated, and you can pick up the pieces from there.RufusMcLaser said:
I believe that it depends on the location of the initial outbreak. An outbreak in North America or Australia, etc. may be stopped pretty quickly, while a third world country just may not give a care while their people die, causing the disease to ever-so-slowly spread. On the flip side, a third world country may be flushed out immediately, uninfected and all because few people care anymore, and 28 Days Later introduced an unstoppable outbreak in Great Britain, so...
The level of security in airports and immigration also affects this. You also need to take into account the psycological level of the remaining population. A few crazies and riots could wipe us out well before we see a zombie.
Keep in mind that one percent of the human population is actually a larger chunk than you may think.
... I think about this a bit too much. Damn Zombie Survival Guide.
The level of security in airports and immigration also affects this. You also need to take into account the psycological level of the remaining population. A few crazies and riots could wipe us out well before we see a zombie.
Keep in mind that one percent of the human population is actually a larger chunk than you may think.
... I think about this a bit too much. Damn Zombie Survival Guide.
Prior to "Z-day" I'll be living in a Mexican style hacienda, four rectangular walls high windows and a courtyard with thick wooden gate to outside world. Greenhouse on the second floor, solar panels and a wind power water from air generator (basically wind spins turbine, powers refrig panels and creates water from condersation). Large underground water tanks for rainwater and aforementioned generated water.
This is on the outside of a large town (40,000 residents) perhaps a twenty minute drive.
Some sort of hybrid car that uses electric (perhaps rechargeable hydrogen cells) and regular fuel. Along with bicycles etc.
Guns, ammo, food and medical supplies stockpiled. Protective clothing like motor-bike gear, skate pads, helmets with clear visors and wet suits for underneath regular clothing. Melee weapons like crowbars, machetes and hatchets that serve several purposes.
"Z day" occurs, gather family, wife+kids if I have them, plus siblings and parents if nearby. Call previously warned/selected friends. If they can get themselves plus family to my house or nearby they've got a spot in the house.
These friends include a vet and two former (at that point in time) soldiers, one of whom is an excellent mechanic and the other has a portable bullet press and knows how to remake bullets.
Hide for a couple weeks, start raiding nearby properties (being vary careful), salvaging stuff and gathering livestock (we'd already have some chickens, a cow or two). Rescue survivors if safe to do so.
If the zombies are there for the long haul, plant crops in the soil during the day, under the watchful eye of armed sentries. Hunt Kangaroos. Fence off livestock if there's too many to keep in the courtyard. Protecting them would be important but not life risk worthy. Reinforce already high windows and sturdy gate. Razor wire furthermost fences and gates around the farm.
Slaughter and burn any zombies that approach. Only allow appropriately inspected survivors in and only if they can carry their own weight.
If the town greatly depopulates of zombies, say if they hypothetically move to a larger urban centre, raid the town itself.
Eventually start taking the fight to them, setting up traps and murderous shooting galleries on buildings on the outskirts (where we can recover all our casings).
Once zombie numbers have drastically decreased or they die out completely rebuild society ever vigilantly. Planned breeding to reduce consanguinity (aka incest/inbreeding). Teach the kids.
If survivors want to gather around my fort, they're welcome as long as the agree to the feudal semi-communistic nature of the place, with me as their Hetman.
Edit: That said unless the origin was in Australia, it would be hard to spread it here. Worst case scenario our defence force shoots down any plan or ship that approachs our borders. If they actually infect a city, we have large areas of openness to fight them on and spoil if we have to (napalm etc).
This is on the outside of a large town (40,000 residents) perhaps a twenty minute drive.
Some sort of hybrid car that uses electric (perhaps rechargeable hydrogen cells) and regular fuel. Along with bicycles etc.
Guns, ammo, food and medical supplies stockpiled. Protective clothing like motor-bike gear, skate pads, helmets with clear visors and wet suits for underneath regular clothing. Melee weapons like crowbars, machetes and hatchets that serve several purposes.
"Z day" occurs, gather family, wife+kids if I have them, plus siblings and parents if nearby. Call previously warned/selected friends. If they can get themselves plus family to my house or nearby they've got a spot in the house.
These friends include a vet and two former (at that point in time) soldiers, one of whom is an excellent mechanic and the other has a portable bullet press and knows how to remake bullets.
Hide for a couple weeks, start raiding nearby properties (being vary careful), salvaging stuff and gathering livestock (we'd already have some chickens, a cow or two). Rescue survivors if safe to do so.
If the zombies are there for the long haul, plant crops in the soil during the day, under the watchful eye of armed sentries. Hunt Kangaroos. Fence off livestock if there's too many to keep in the courtyard. Protecting them would be important but not life risk worthy. Reinforce already high windows and sturdy gate. Razor wire furthermost fences and gates around the farm.
Slaughter and burn any zombies that approach. Only allow appropriately inspected survivors in and only if they can carry their own weight.
If the town greatly depopulates of zombies, say if they hypothetically move to a larger urban centre, raid the town itself.
Eventually start taking the fight to them, setting up traps and murderous shooting galleries on buildings on the outskirts (where we can recover all our casings).
Once zombie numbers have drastically decreased or they die out completely rebuild society ever vigilantly. Planned breeding to reduce consanguinity (aka incest/inbreeding). Teach the kids.
If survivors want to gather around my fort, they're welcome as long as the agree to the feudal semi-communistic nature of the place, with me as their Hetman.
Edit: That said unless the origin was in Australia, it would be hard to spread it here. Worst case scenario our defence force shoots down any plan or ship that approachs our borders. If they actually infect a city, we have large areas of openness to fight them on and spoil if we have to (napalm etc).
I have a feeling you've been planning this for some time. I also have a feeling you don't really have a chance of setting that up, especially since Z-Day is tomorrow.BrynThomas said:
I had a really long car trip where this was the topic.Soulreaverm said:
I plan to have it built when I'm a fully qualified practitioner of whichever field of medicine I choose/end up doing (I'm currently a med student). But yeah it would be inopportune for it happen in the next decade.
Happens now there are two scenarios I'm in Melbourne studying or back home in Wangaratta the large town I mentioned. Wangaratta is easy, gather the guns, radios and food with my father. Call any of the friends I mentioned and their folks. Head to the hills and wait. Then work something out if there's no government fix.
Melbourne, either leave to go home, with the earliest warning signs, mysterious deaths, violent attacks, riots etc. Stuck in a full blown invasion, I know where a gun store is and we (my housemate and I) will try to fight our way out. We could die, but if we can get back to the country we stand a dramatically higher chance of survival. Fortunately we don't live in the centre and Melbourne though large, is not as monsterously huge as a city like New York.
Edit: But you have to admit its a sound plan. Nothing crazy like a cruise boat or antarctic base.
I am only really at risk of organised raiders, which hopefully when we have enough survivors we can easily fight off, building defense for like slit trenches and firing pits.
And a corrupt remainder of the government/army, which I would collaborate with if possible.
Read the Survival guide, liked most stuff. But thought he really wasn't prepared for runners, or even shambling sprinters (those who stumble at you but can utilize a burst of speed to close the distance).mangus said:
Talking to my friend whose an rifleman in the Australian army, cooking off is something they rarely do, because not only the fuse could be faulty, it is really hard to count in a battle calmly. He had to do a training exercise where he threw a practice grenade after three seconds, while a guy fired a machine gun right next to him. "How longs has it been" he asked another soldier after what felt like a life time, "1 second" the other guy replied.Th3 Sh00ter said:
If they want to prevent it being thrown back, they skip or bounce it along the ground.
My zombie plans are either go to disney world and live on the top of the matterhorn because if zombies are coming who's gonna be at disney world? also a lot of food will be left behind
My second is find a boat sweep it attempt survival long enough to load up and head to barbados
My second will most likely work only in the winter so I made a third
follow my ancestors and go to the south pole in a boat with men and survive we will probably bring dogs for hunting and try to land in an area with trees and animals while being close to the ice for water and the animal oil for a wide assortment of things
My second is find a boat sweep it attempt survival long enough to load up and head to barbados
My second will most likely work only in the winter so I made a third
follow my ancestors and go to the south pole in a boat with men and survive we will probably bring dogs for hunting and try to land in an area with trees and animals while being close to the ice for water and the animal oil for a wide assortment of things
I'll boil it down for you. In the real world zombies would have to eat, or they couldn't move. It's that simple. You can't argue against this point. It's physics, pure and simple. (Or biology, but that's just applied physics.)C Lion said:
My plan runs on the laws of nature, and the history of the species. We don't need antibiotics. Sure, some people will die. Tough luck. We've survived for thousands upon thousands of years without antibiotics, we can do it again. Clean water is pretty easy to find, if you know where to look. Out of 60 million people, a lot of them will know where to look. I would, for example. Most of my friends would. Hell, even my parents, and most of their friends would.
Farming isn't too hard either, sure, getting the best results out of it can be difficult, but since there's already farms set up and ready to go, you can easily salvage, say half of it. That would be plenty enough for a small community, seeing as most farm these days are built to supply much more than just the local town.
This thread has me thinking... What if one were to make a company which designed zombie-safe houses? It's brilliant! Architechts working in those blast doors, sprinklers which can spray gasoline, stairs that can be retractable, multiple food storages...
I'm gonna be rich...
I'm gonna be rich...
umm has anyone forgoten naval battlegroups ie carrier fleets and missile subs subs stay under water for months plus they have nukes purge the land with flame also cariers hold thousands of people each so that can be used as a viable gene pool (zombie viruses work fast and you need a plane to land on a carrier) any before you say the battle groups will be infected when the take shore leave all 1st-2nd world goverments will warn eveyone about the zombies
i live in darwin australia only 200k people in the entire state also you might want to check the size of the nt you might be suprised. so i can go to a cattle station (ranch for you americans) wich are hundreds of kilometers from anywhere with barbed wire fences lots of dusty river beds spinnefex (check the spelling and its fucking painfull)dozens of poisonus animals and dingos and dont forget they have guns on cattle stations so long open approach with sniper wifle both bolt action and semi-auto also im a pretty good shot p.s the capital city darwin my home has most of the population some interesting facts Population (June 2008)
- Population 219,948 (8th)
- Density 0.16/km² (8th)
0.4 /sq mi
Area
- Total 1,420,970 km² (3rd)
548,640 sq mi
- Land 1,349,129 km²
520,902 sq mi
- Water 71,839 km² (5.06%)
27,737 sq mi
Elevation
- Highest Mount Zeil
+1,531 m (5,023 ft)
- Lowest Sea Level
- Population 219,948 (8th)
- Density 0.16/km² (8th)
0.4 /sq mi
Area
- Total 1,420,970 km² (3rd)
548,640 sq mi
- Land 1,349,129 km²
520,902 sq mi
- Water 71,839 km² (5.06%)
27,737 sq mi
Elevation
- Highest Mount Zeil
+1,531 m (5,023 ft)
- Lowest Sea Level
I go with most people on this one, as long as zombies aren't much smarter and/or have superhuman strength and speed, you can probably wait it out. Especially since it would most likely be over in a couple of weeks to a month. Even zombies need food to survive.
