Poll: International Burn a Koran Day

[xXAsherahXx]

Yeah, down with Allah, grr, anti Islam sentiment, rawr, hate all that aren't christian, let's blow up the Earth.

/sarcasm

 

[AhumbleKnight]

OT: Do they have the right? yes. Should they? No.
Respect and Tolerance towards others is something that you give even if they don't give it to you.

 

[Verlander]

I don't think burning a flag is technically equitable to burning a holy text (unless you think that flag represents your god or something). That being said, the man has a right to free speech, regardless of how big a dick move his choice of expression was...

Yes it is, because there are people who can be non religious but take great national pride. The kind of people who have a flag waving in their back yard and look at it every day and remember the trials and sacrifice it took to get where they are. I'm European and half English so it's in my blood to make fun of the yanks at every twist turn I get; but they have my respect for their national pride and yes, to some people burning the american flag is WORSE than burning a religious text because a flag is a symbol of an abstract idea, an ideal, a way of life.

By burning the Koran, you are insulting ALL Muslims. News flash, most Muslims are very nice people who have a different religion. It's like saying that all Irish Catholics are child molesters, or all Americans are fat inbred idiots. Start burning the terrorists, or worse, give them a sex change and send them back to their country and see what their jihad brethren do to them then

And by burning a nation's flag you're insulting a whole nation, same thing dude.

Sorry man, a flag is different. I know in America you guys love it, you're forced to salute it every morning and shit, but it's just a piece of cloth. A holy books sets morals and a way of life.

As for all of you Americans who bang on about "freedom" and "free speech", you are deluded. You have no freedom of speech. You can't walk up to the president and threaten to kill him, or anyone for that matter. Unless freedom is absolute (which it isn't) than it's just another word designed to calm and con the masses

 

[Queen Michael]

however, muslims frequently burn american flags

Well, the Flag Code has this to say on the subject: "When a flag is so tattered that it can no longer serve as a symbol of the United States, it should be destroyed in a dignified manner, preferably by burning." 'Nuff said about what the law thinks of flag burning.

 

[archvile93]

Wrong, Muslims don't burn American flags, just the ones with suicide bombs strapped to their chests shouting at the top of their lungs while weilding AK-47s. Don't condemn an entire religion because of a few psycho paths. I don't condemn all of Christianity because of the WBC.

 

[Chris Sandford]

I could only think of Postal 2...
"Save a tree, burn a book!"

 

[i64ever]

This was quite possibly one of the worst ideas since the children's crusade. We are supposed to be on the side of religious freedom. That's what makes us better than the terrorists. If this war becomes christianity versus moslem, both sides hating the other and destroying their symbols, we all lose.

 

[Private Custard]

Kind of off-topic... But building a freaking mosque on groundzero is a freaking horrible idea. and dont come here and tell me they didnt know it would make a scene...
Why not build a monument to Hitler in Auschwitz while we´re at it?

(I do realize that the mosque - hitler isnt the best comparison, since not all muslims are terrorists, but really...)

Agreed. I'm not even American, but the fact that someone thought it might be a good idea to build a mosque on ground zero absolutely fucking disgusts me.

Sure it's not a war on Islam, but Islam and 9/11 will be forever related in the worst possible way. To think that a mosque at that particular site would do anything but wind everybody up is just insane.

I've known a lot of Muslims over the years, most of them pretty sane. But, as with most things in life, the vocal and irrational minority seem to be getting heard more and more

OT: My opinion is this. If the extremists are allowed to protest, accusing soldiers of murder and, as was the case in Luton, England a while back, wave banners demanding beheading of infidels, then why shouldn't he be allowed to burn a Koran?

Yeah it's idiotic and will only be the equivalent of adding petrol to an already roaring bonfire, but the extremists are already as needlessly irritable as a hornets nest suffering from steroid withdrawal symptoms, what's the worst that can happen?!!

I don't care what people burn. If they own it and they're not endangering anyone elses property or life, they should be free to set fire to it if they so desire.

It's not a mosque and it's not at ground zero. It's two freaking blocks away and it's a community center that will contain a mosque.

That people regard this as offensive seems a little bit ridiculous to me.

This. Not to mention that the 'mosque' it contains is simply a prayer room. Also included in the same community centre is a Christian prayer room and a Jewish prayer room. I have no idea how so many people can get so angry about something they seem to know nothing about.

Honestly, I read a brief report on it a while ago and then heard nothing more about it.

I personally think that all religion is totally idiotic. But hey, each to their own. I find it sad that extremists have managed to hijack an entire religion to the point that only the bad is heard or expected.

I was wrong to trust initial reports on the whole ground zero mosque placement. I accept that.

 

[tzimize]

On one hand there's book burning, and on the other there's sensibility and reason.

Guess which won out in the end.

I agree to a point. If he stopped the action because of that you are right. If he stopped the actions because of rabid-dog-extremist-muslims threatening his life....then I would hardly call that a victory for sensibility and reason. More a victory for hypocrisy and fear-mongering.

Also, if the "west" stops all actions simply because crazy religious extrimists dont want it to happen we're gonna walk into a VERY dark future.

 

[the December King]

If they want to burn bibles & American flags, and then riot every time someone draws a picture or names a bear Muhammad, they can 'suck it'.


This is not a theocracy, religion does not rule here...at least on paper.

While I can understand 'being the bigger man', when you're at war sometimes you have to be the
bigger bully.



Also, it's just a book.
Paper, maybe some leather, and ink.
Get-over-it.

That begs the question of why burn the Quaran in the first place?

There are over a billion muslims in the world. They are not all on the same 'team'. Burning the Quaran is an ignorant act, and would degrade our own morals- western society is based on the freedom to choose your own path, not the shunning and persecution that dominates in other places. Better to burn the terrorists responsible for enforcing those kinds of intolerance and hate.

 

[Deshin]

Sorry man, a flag is different. I know in America you guys love it, you're forced to salute it every morning and shit, but it's just a piece of cloth. A holy books sets morals and a way of life.

First off, I'm not American or even living there. Second of all

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If you can't see how a flag can hold the same amount of important to an indivudual as a book then I'm through debating the point with you, it's not worth my time.

 

[tzimize]

If they want to burn bibles & American flags, and then riot every time someone draws a picture or names a bear Muhammad, they can 'suck it'.


This is not a theocracy, religion does not rule here...at least on paper.

While I can understand 'being the bigger man', when you're at war sometimes you have to be the
bigger bully.



Also, it's just a book.
Paper, maybe some leather, and ink.
Get-over-it.

That begs the question of why burn the Quaran in the first place?

There are over a billion muslims in the world. They are not all on the same 'team'. Burning the Quaran is an ignorant act, and would degrade our own morals- western society is based on the freedom to choose your own path, not the shunning and persecution that dominates in other places. Better to burn the terrorists responsible for enforcing those kinds of intolerance and hate.

If someone in the west wants to burn a Quaran (or a bible for that matter) I WILL defend his absolute right to do so, even if other people find it rude. Thats kind of the charm of "our" side...we can actually do stuff we want, and say stuff we want without having to hang for it.

Is it nice? No. Is it necessary? No. But if he wants to get warm in the winter by burning Quarans I for one will not deny him that. Freedom to choose your own path includes stupid paths.

 

[HotFezz8]

It annoys me that because the genius that came up with the day spelt "Qur'an" wrong every second post has now spelt it Koran. It just looks stupid. Anyway, its not like every Muslim burns the American flag its just a few, so to burn the Qur'an in retaliation is just being petty and racist.

ok i want to apologise for this to the first person to bring it up, Qur'an not Koran, huh ok fair enough, that was my lack of education, no insult or offence intended.

 

[Necromancer1991]

You do realize that burning Qur'ans will just make the terrorists angry, not to mention offend all your non-terrorist neighbors. As far as the Mosque in NYC is concerned I don't give a damn, I live in NJ and where they put their religious establishments in NYC does not concern me. I mean for the love of god, it's not like they're building an abortion clinic FFS (I'm pro-choice BTW), it's a church for crying out loud, not an arms depot. Besides, what's the point, you a bunch of backwater hicks, noone really gives a damn about how many Qur'an you burn.

 

[Samus Aaron]

Kind of off-topic... But building a freaking mosque on groundzero is a freaking horrible idea. and dont come here and tell me they didnt know it would make a scene...
Why not build a monument to Hitler in Auschwitz while we´re at it?

(I do realize that the mosque - hitler isnt the best comparison, since not all muslims are terrorists, but really...)

It's not on ground zero, its two blocks away. And you know another thing? There's already a mosque near ground zero that has sat there peacefully for years.

 

[there is no spoon]

The issue is, in the states religious tolerance is preached as one of our prized accomplishments i.e. the first Amendment. The ironic part is he was practicing his first Amendment rights by attempting to burn the Koran. It's kinda a catch 22. So the outcry was more or less hypocritical.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Umm... yeah... burning a Koran will REALLY not make them want to attack us again...

 

[Samus Aaron]

It annoys me that because the genius that came up with the day spelt "Qur'an" wrong every second post has now spelt it Koran. It just looks stupid. Anyway, its not like every Muslim burns the American flag its just a few, so to burn the Qur'an in retaliation is just being petty and racist.

Actually, I don't think the spelling matters since the actual word "Qur'an" uses Arabic letters.

 

[Les Awesome]

if you burn a Qur'an you're officially retarded
it promotes hate and endangers the lives of others
and for what to feel better about an event in which most muslims had nothing to do with.
smoke in the water fire in the sky