Poll: Is Anything Possible?

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Jedoro

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The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. I'm all for believing magic exists somewhere.
 

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crudus said:
Redingold said:
There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians).
We will not even have to change definition. Because lenght is relative. A 13 inch foot exists, as long as the observers are moving at sufficients speeds relative to eachother.
 

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there is a pshyical law that says anything is possible it is called the uncertainty principal the basic idea is even if the chance is one in a hyperbillion chance of you opening a door on earth and ending up in the center of the sun if you kept opening doors and walking though eventually you would end up in the center of the sun so yes.
 

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SnootyEnglishman said:
Breaking the 4th wall.
But that happens in comics, so maybe there is some omnipotent being reading our thoughts and we could, feasibly talk to it and break the 4th wall.
 

crudus

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Shankity Stick said:
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Breaking the laws of physics.
Different dimensions man.
Even different dimensions have laws of physics that can't be broken. They are different laws but laws nonetheless.
But if our laws can be broken there, then who's to say theirs can't be broken some where else, plus there is (possibly) an infinite number of dimensions, therefore, an infinite number of dimensions to break each others rules.
Ok, say I, a good looking 20-something, go to live in Illinois where the age of consent is 17. I just can't wait to do the horizontal monster mash with my sexy 16-year-old girlfriend. So we go to Indiana(age of consent there is 16). We rent a nice hotel room and do the deed there. We didn't break any laws by Indiana's standards nor Illinois' because their laws do not pertain to what happens in Indiana. The same thing goes when cross dimensions. You still stay within the confines of the laws of physics; the laws of physics are just different.
 

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CrazyGeneral said:
there is a pshyical law that says anything is possible it is called the uncertainty principal the basic idea is even if the chance is one in a hyperbillion chance of you opening a door on earth and ending up in the center of the sun if you kept opening doors and walking though eventually you would end up in the center of the sun so yes.
If you are referring to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, then no. Because all that principle states is that certain informations pairs are impossible to simultaneously acertain to perfect accuracy. One of these informations pairs is the velocity and positions of a subatomic particle. Another is the energy and matter content of an area of space.

All this means is that there cannot exist a perfectly empty space for example. Not that a solar system can magically appear out of nowhere in an instant.
 

rokkolpo

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unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.

but you're being a bit unfair with you're magic and alternate dimension stuff.
that's like playing a game of black jack where you automaticly have all high cards.
 

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crudus said:
Redingold said:
There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians). The latter is logically inconsistent so you are right.
But a 4-sided circle does exist. It?s called a square.
 

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SakSak said:
crudus said:
Redingold said:
There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians).
We will not even have to change definition. Because lenght is relative. A 13 inch foot exists, as long as the observers are moving at sufficients speeds relative to eachother.
Definitions of lengths are conclusively "the distance light travels in x time" so it may APPEAR to be longer or shorter but it still is the same length.

Shankity Stick said:
crudus said:
Redingold said:
There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians). The latter is logically inconsistent so you are right.
But a 4-sided circle does exist. It?s called a square.
Then it isn't a circle. It is a square.
 

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There is no such thing as "Nothing" there is always something. I dont know where im going with this... Uhhh, No magic or parallel me would enjoy AvP or Brutal Legend
 

Shankity Stick

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crudus said:
Shankity Stick said:
crudus said:
Shankity Stick said:
Susano said:
Breaking the laws of physics.
Different dimensions man.
Even different dimensions have laws of physics that can't be broken. They are different laws but laws nonetheless.
But if our laws can be broken there, then who's to say theirs can't be broken some where else, plus there is (possibly) an infinite number of dimensions, therefore, an infinite number of dimensions to break each others rules.
Ok, say I, a good looking 20-something, go to live in Illinois where the age of consent is 17. I just can't wait to do the horizontal monster mash with my sexy 16-year-old girlfriend. So we go to Indiana(age of consent there is 16). We rent a nice hotel room and do the deed there. We didn't break any laws by Indiana's standards nor Illinois' because their laws do not pertain to what happens in Indiana. The same thing goes when cross dimensions. You still stay within the confines of the laws of physics; the laws of physics are just different.
But relatively, by breaking this dimensions laws in a different dimension, the law is still broken, just under different standards.
 

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rokkolpo said:
unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.
Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.

One of these is: "Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not." With these logical absolutes, we can disprove a multitude of stuff such as a perfect circle that has sharp angles.
 

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as soon as you mentioned alternative dimensions, proof goes out the window as we can't prove/disprove anything that happens in an alternative dimension. i love to think of a realm where all my dreams are a reality, but i can't
 

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Burwood123 said:
There is no such thing as "Nothing" there is always something. I dont know where im going with this... Uhhh, No magic or parallel me would enjoy AvP or Brutal Legend
You don't know that. I bet you that on earth there is someone who likes both of those games, they just have bad tastes.
 

Zacharine

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crudus said:
SakSak said:
crudus said:
Redingold said:
There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians).
We will not even have to change definition. Because lenght is relative. A 13 inch foot exists, as long as the observers are moving at sufficients speeds relative to eachother.
Definitions of lengths are conclusively "the distance light travels in x time" so it may APPEAR to be longer or shorter but it still is the same length.
But time is relative, dependant upon the speed of the observers relative to eachother. Hence, if observers move at different speeds, they measure a different lenght by using that formula.
 

Shankity Stick

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SakSak said:
rokkolpo said:
unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.
Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.

One of these is: "Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not." With these logical absolutes, we can disprove a multitude of stuff such as a perfect circle that has sharp angles.
Language. That is how you are disproved. Maybe in another planet your sharp angled thing is called a circle. Therefore, a circle could have sharp angles.
 

crudus

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Shankity Stick said:
But relatively, by breaking this dimensions laws in a different dimension, the law is still broken, just under different standards.
No it isn't because (as far as I know) we only have laws for the observable universe. Can you observe another universe? If yes, call anyone you like because you have a job there. If no, then our laws do not pertain to it and thus cannot be broken there. Hence my analogy with the age of consent law applies. Illinois can't yell of me for sleeping with my 16 year old girlfriend if I do it in Indiana(well the citizens can but the law is very powerless to stop me).

SakSak said:
But time is relative, dependant upon the speed of the observers relative to eachother. Hence, if observers move at different speeds, they measure a different lenght by using that formula.
Yes, the gamma factor. You are quite clever; I didn't give you enough credit. I do concede but wouldn't just changing be easier and more cost effective? I am aware the gamma factor becomes.....a factor around .1c. There are some hilarious GRE problems involving it.