We will not even have to change definition. Because lenght is relative. A 13 inch foot exists, as long as the observers are moving at sufficients speeds relative to eachother.crudus said:The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians).Redingold said:There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
But that happens in comics, so maybe there is some omnipotent being reading our thoughts and we could, feasibly talk to it and break the 4th wall.SnootyEnglishman said:Breaking the 4th wall.
Ok, say I, a good looking 20-something, go to live in Illinois where the age of consent is 17. I just can't wait to do the horizontal monster mash with my sexy 16-year-old girlfriend. So we go to Indiana(age of consent there is 16). We rent a nice hotel room and do the deed there. We didn't break any laws by Indiana's standards nor Illinois' because their laws do not pertain to what happens in Indiana. The same thing goes when cross dimensions. You still stay within the confines of the laws of physics; the laws of physics are just different.Shankity Stick said:But if our laws can be broken there, then who's to say theirs can't be broken some where else, plus there is (possibly) an infinite number of dimensions, therefore, an infinite number of dimensions to break each others rules.crudus said:Even different dimensions have laws of physics that can't be broken. They are different laws but laws nonetheless.Shankity Stick said:Different dimensions man.Susano said:Breaking the laws of physics.
If you are referring to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, then no. Because all that principle states is that certain informations pairs are impossible to simultaneously acertain to perfect accuracy. One of these informations pairs is the velocity and positions of a subatomic particle. Another is the energy and matter content of an area of space.CrazyGeneral said:there is a pshyical law that says anything is possible it is called the uncertainty principal the basic idea is even if the chance is one in a hyperbillion chance of you opening a door on earth and ending up in the center of the sun if you kept opening doors and walking though eventually you would end up in the center of the sun so yes.
But a 4-sided circle does exist. It?s called a square.crudus said:The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians). The latter is logically inconsistent so you are right.Redingold said:There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
Definitions of lengths are conclusively "the distance light travels in x time" so it may APPEAR to be longer or shorter but it still is the same length.SakSak said:We will not even have to change definition. Because lenght is relative. A 13 inch foot exists, as long as the observers are moving at sufficients speeds relative to eachother.crudus said:The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians).Redingold said:There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
Then it isn't a circle. It is a square.Shankity Stick said:But a 4-sided circle does exist. It?s called a square.crudus said:The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians). The latter is logically inconsistent so you are right.Redingold said:There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
But relatively, by breaking this dimensions laws in a different dimension, the law is still broken, just under different standards.crudus said:Ok, say I, a good looking 20-something, go to live in Illinois where the age of consent is 17. I just can't wait to do the horizontal monster mash with my sexy 16-year-old girlfriend. So we go to Indiana(age of consent there is 16). We rent a nice hotel room and do the deed there. We didn't break any laws by Indiana's standards nor Illinois' because their laws do not pertain to what happens in Indiana. The same thing goes when cross dimensions. You still stay within the confines of the laws of physics; the laws of physics are just different.Shankity Stick said:But if our laws can be broken there, then who's to say theirs can't be broken some where else, plus there is (possibly) an infinite number of dimensions, therefore, an infinite number of dimensions to break each others rules.crudus said:Even different dimensions have laws of physics that can't be broken. They are different laws but laws nonetheless.Shankity Stick said:Different dimensions man.Susano said:Breaking the laws of physics.
Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.rokkolpo said:unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.
You don't know that. I bet you that on earth there is someone who likes both of those games, they just have bad tastes.Burwood123 said:There is no such thing as "Nothing" there is always something. I dont know where im going with this... Uhhh, No magic or parallel me would enjoy AvP or Brutal Legend
But time is relative, dependant upon the speed of the observers relative to eachother. Hence, if observers move at different speeds, they measure a different lenght by using that formula.crudus said:Definitions of lengths are conclusively "the distance light travels in x time" so it may APPEAR to be longer or shorter but it still is the same length.SakSak said:We will not even have to change definition. Because lenght is relative. A 13 inch foot exists, as long as the observers are moving at sufficients speeds relative to eachother.crudus said:The former can happen if we change the definition of a foot(when I am king of everything I will do it to scare the triscadecaphobians).Redingold said:There are many things that can'e happen by definition, like having a 13 inch foot, or a circle with 4 corners.
Language. That is how you are disproved. Maybe in another planet your sharp angled thing is called a circle. Therefore, a circle could have sharp angles.SakSak said:Yes we can. We can disprove anything that is contrary to any of the basic logical premises, which are not dependand upon anything.rokkolpo said:unless we know everything! we can't really disprove anything.
One of these is: "Everything is what it is, and cannot be what it is not." With these logical absolutes, we can disprove a multitude of stuff such as a perfect circle that has sharp angles.
No it isn't because (as far as I know) we only have laws for the observable universe. Can you observe another universe? If yes, call anyone you like because you have a job there. If no, then our laws do not pertain to it and thus cannot be broken there. Hence my analogy with the age of consent law applies. Illinois can't yell of me for sleeping with my 16 year old girlfriend if I do it in Indiana(well the citizens can but the law is very powerless to stop me).Shankity Stick said:But relatively, by breaking this dimensions laws in a different dimension, the law is still broken, just under different standards.
Yes, the gamma factor. You are quite clever; I didn't give you enough credit. I do concede but wouldn't just changing be easier and more cost effective? I am aware the gamma factor becomes.....a factor around .1c. There are some hilarious GRE problems involving it.SakSak said:But time is relative, dependant upon the speed of the observers relative to eachother. Hence, if observers move at different speeds, they measure a different lenght by using that formula.