Poll: is he ignorant or does he have a point
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As long as you're responsible and don't hurt anyone unjustly, you can do whatever the hell you want.
I feel if your in a situation where you might need a gun its ok to have one. I live in the middle of nowhere where everyone and their brother/daughter/mum/ etc. have some type of firearm in their house. It can depend on where you live and the situations you have to deal with. Are you mentally stable? Don't plan on doing any shooting sprees anytime soon?
But its still their house and if they don't want you to have it don't get one, just wait, it won't kill you to go another two years. Guns are fun to have when used with responsibility but aren't a needed thing.
But its still their house and if they don't want you to have it don't get one, just wait, it won't kill you to go another two years. Guns are fun to have when used with responsibility but aren't a needed thing.
If nobody else can have them, then the police are the last people who should have guns. Perhaps emergency responders, similar SWAT, but your average beat cop shouldn't.rokkolpo said:
If you think joes with handguns is scary, then joes with handguns who regularly see and are desensitized to the seedy side of humanity, and have their heads swollen with authority and the power of being the only person with a firearm ought to just make you piss your pants.
And I'm a person who's in favor of the police most of the time.
I live in New Hampshire myself. Basicly, every kid in town (this is rural, by the way) gets their own gun somewhere between ages 10 and 12. Parents teach their kids gun and hunter safety, and I can't think of any incidents at all, where it's been an issue. Seriously. I can see that sounding weird to other people, but hunting, and guns in general, are a big part of the culture up here.
Your mother allows you to stay in her house. You must do as she wishes, or at least convince her otherwise, if you want to stay there. You're lucky you don't have to pay partial rent, as I began to do once i bought a rifle. Though I totally support your rights to keep and bear arms if you live on private property you must obey its rules.
I am very pro-gun. But I think your... Half... Father.. Mom's... Whatever is kind of right. It's reasonable that he's uncomfortble with you having a gun, he's just looking out for the safety of him and those around him. If he doesn't trust you, that's his problem.
Listen, I'm not saying you shouldn't get a gun. I'm just saying he's right to be worried.
Listen, I'm not saying you shouldn't get a gun. I'm just saying he's right to be worried.
Do you seriously think that people who buy guns to go kill someone don't originally buy it because they DON'T like shooting? Also people who own rifles for hunting also do it for target shooting. Before you quote me and try and contradict me by contradicting yourself. I never said that recreational shooting is bad. I never said that its worse than going to kill someone else. That is YOU putting words into my mouth. If you like shooting then go to a shooting range and RENT a gun. Yeah some shooting ranges do that. But yeah you have to be 18 or have parental Consent to do it.Aphroditty said:
Theres a bunch of loop holes in his argument to get a gun but seeing as how he is so in for wanting to OWN it himself he hasn't looked at all the things that he can do to shoot guns for fun at targets.
Yeh, that would be the point that needs to be made, guns are at their safest when you know they aren't safe. I've seen too many people do absolutely retarded things with guns that it tickles me when people call them safe, apologies.bam13302 said:
High Velocity? Rim fire, centre fire? Armour Penetrating? (That is assuming you can get them in .22, never actually seen them)bam13302 said:
Is this perchance a rumour or did you read it somewhere?
Guns aren't the issue. People are the issue. Guns don't go off by themselves,you have to pull that trigger. I personally don't see anything wrong with this. As long as its supervised, and is taught proper gun safety. They are just as dangerous as cars. Someone can get either injured or killed by both of them. But nobody ever asks if a 16 year old should be driving a car. Its the same amount of responsibility. Your not just liable for yourself out there, but everyone else.
Irrelevant to anything we said, so, whatever. But I think you'll find that people who buy a gun to go kill someone originally bought the gun to go kill someone, so you might want to rework that sentence in case you ever deploy it where it follows.Krion_Vark said:
That's not relevant. You argued that wanting to shoot is an idiotic reason for owning a weapon, but going to hunt and kill something is enough of a reason.Krion_Vark said:
Alright fair enough, I'll let you switch to this argument. But fine, go rent a gun then, that's awesome. Now why is owning a gun for hunting any better than owning a gun for recreational sport? You ought to rent for that too. In fact, a person who has the proven capacity to kill something is probably somebody who should have to rent. Again, follow your logic through to its endpoint.Krion_Vark said:
In any event, depending on the level of recreational shooting you undertake, actually owning a weapon might end up being more economical in the long run, and the added benefits of being able to go out on public ranges on your own time, rather than a private range's schedule also weight into the decision. So your argument does fail on on the pragmatic side of the equation, but I presume that pragmatism wasn't the basis for your argument based by the heated ad hominem attacks you slung out there toward the OP.
Considering how this is supposed to be whether or not the boyfriend is ignorant or have a point we just argued for a while over nothing.Aphroditty said:
you've shot them.. doesn't mean yo uknow how to maintain them and keep them safelymicky said:
your dads an ex-marine.. he knows how to maintain a weapon and keep it to the standard to kill another human being. he knows about looking after them, but he won't be there all the time will he?
you're simply not old enough or responsible enough to be trusted with a lethal weapon yet. just be patient, yes guns are superb pieces of technology, but their mystique comes at a price.. you need to truly respect them, not just enjoy using them. i'm sorry but i just don't think that you're responsible enough yet.