Okay, so it originally aired in prime time. Big deal, it was still a cartoon. If you can get me some promotional materials from the time period that refer to it as something other than a cartoon, I'll concede the point, but I don't know anybody who lived through that time period who has ever used the phrase; to them, they're all cartoons.Pyro Paul said:Except not...Owyn_Merrilin said:Have you got a source for Johnny Quest being referred to as "animated sci-fi" at the time of airing? Because it sounds more like something that fans would call it years later than something from the time, kind of like how Exosquad is now referred to as "The first American anime," even though at the time it originally aired, it was just an action cartoon on USA network.Pyro Paul said:oh i caught your point. it is just very wrong.Bender Rodriguez said:You didn't catch my point dear sir, its animation.Pyro Paul said:You can not use the word to Define itself.Bender Rodriguez said:DEFINITION
A drawing depicting a humorous situation, often accompanied by a caption.
b. A drawing representing current public figures or issues symbolically and often satirically: a political cartoon.
2. A preliminary sketch similar in size to the work, such as a fresco, that is to be copied from it.
3. An animated cartoon.
4. A comic strip.
5. A ridiculously oversimplified or stereotypical representation: criticized the actor's portrayal of Jefferson as a historically inaccurate cartoon.
So no, its a cartoon...Nothing special.
Real life beats it by a mile.
the basic definition of Animated Cartoon is litterally 'A Cartoon that is Animated'
as 'Adjective + noun' word combiniations are always best defined 'Noun that is Adjective.'
this is because the Adjective is a modifer of the noun.
Wet Dog = Dog that is Wet.
Little Girl = Girl that is little.
Short letter = Letter that is short.
so if you read into the definition.
A Cartoon is an 'Animated Cartoon'.
An Animated Cartoon is a cartoon that is Animated.
so a Cartoon is a Cartoon. *derp*
Animation is in the core roots a form of drawing/sketching - Caricature/Cartoon etc...
Simply included that material to back up my very basic claim.
That this form of animation is under the category "Cartoons".
Yet i understand that some feel its a degrading word, for the same reasons people are strict at calling "Graphic Novels" just that.
Avoiding the word Cartoon makes it seem all the more mature, when infact its a Cartoon.
But hey, i don't think any wrong of Cartoons.
I call my graphic novels cartoons, cause i'm secure in my state of mind and I'm not afraid to be mistaken as a sissy.
Cartoon is not a definition of animation.
it never has been, nor will it ever be.
You see, Cartoons by their basic definiton has always been short, simplistic, and unrefined drawings. Sketches, Gestures, and setups from renaissance era initial drawings designed to be transfers for more elaborate works of art on more difficult mediums. (frescos, stain glassed windows, mosaiacs, etc.)
through the ages it has always held the one basic definition. Short.
the Orginal cartoon 'Steamboat Willie' was a short animation.
Every 'cartoon' Disney and Warner Brothers made where all Short being 7-15 minutes long at most. When ever these animations grew longer they where no longer cartoons but 'animations'.
Jonny Quest, for instance, was featured as full length episodes filling a 30 minute slot. It was very diffrent then the running 'saterday morning cartoon' line ups that Disney, WB, and hanna-barbra had as those shows where usually 30 minute shows comprised of 2-3 cartoons. Because of its longer length and more refined story Jonny Quest was identified as 'Animated Sci-fi' rather than 'Cartoon'.
this can further be seen with Pinnochio, Snow White, Alice in Wonderland, and Lion King. None of these films where considered 'Cartoons'. Infact their title cards identify them as 'Animated Films'.
P.S.: Wait a minute, both Scooby Doo and The Flintstones were in the half hour format as well, and I know that those were called Saturday morning cartoons. I call BS on the "animated sci-fi" line.
Scooby Doo was introduced in 1969 as a midday show.
Flintstones was a 1960 Prime Time animated sitcom.
just like how Jonny Quest was a Prime Time animated sci-fi in 1964.
around mid 1970, long after the sindication of each, did these features find there way into the 'Saturday morning cartoon' line up... and what you probably remember watching was from the 80's or 90's.
of course, none of these where titled 'Cartoon' Flintstones was an animated Sitcom, Scooby Doo was an Animated Mystery, and Jonny Quest animated Sci-fi.
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/jonny-quest/cast/202426
TV Guide calls it 'Animated Series' not cartoon.
compared to Looney Tunes being titled 'cartoon'
http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/looney-tunes/cast/202762
Edit: You're hung up on the still-image meaning of the word, as in "political cartoon" or "newspaper cartoon." The meaning of "cartoon," when used in reference to animation, has become much broader in the last 60 or 70 years.