Poll: Is it possible to snipe without camping?

[Merkavar]

i think you cant play a game like cod with out being abused for something. camping, quick scoping, hard scoping, no scoping, grenade launching.

soon enough you will probably get abused for running around the map or even for using bullets from automatic weapons.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

If you can't shoot and scoot with any weapon you are not effective. So yes, it isn't just possible, it is a must. In the MoH beta snipers were always easy targets for anyone because they NEVER MOVED. Luckily, the maps were balanced that they could easily be taken out from flanks, or even head on. In MW2, snipers had lanes that allowed them to sit and take out anything that moved, giving the opposing team difficulties in taking them out, unless they used a noob tube, which then led to noob tube wars, which ruined the game.

My theory on snipers: Shoot at me once, I know your general location. Shoot at me a second time, I know where you are. I can see your tracers. If you don't hit me at this point, I am going to kill you, and you have 2 options: stay where you are and die, or move, and possibly die. Also by this point, I have told my friends exactly where you are, and even if you kill me, you are going to have a hailstorm of bullets coming at you.

I do not find sniping in any shooter a reasonable or even respectable form of playing at this point. The sniper rifles are some of the easiest weapons to use and exploit. They usually camp, and they are almost always selfish people who just want to run up their kill count, let alone win. If the sniper is playing WITH the team, calling targets, and giving support, then they are doing their job. Few people do this.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

Yeah, you can keep moving around between shots/kills.

You can go no-scope and use your sniper as a close range shotgun, at least in some games.

You can quick-scope, and use it as any semi-auto/manual (depending on sniper) rifle with hefty damage if you're skilled enough.

Quick scoping takes skill? That's a new one. I didn't know being a douche bag was a skill now.

 

[Mr.Petey]

Camping to me is when you are determined to stay in one spot for a very long time/after a long streak of kills. It suggests you are too afraid to venture out and prefer the reclusive little pit to nest in while everybody else does all the work and bravery of actually going into the foray of combat.
Camping infuriates other people but at the same time gives you a massive arrow pointing right above your head saying "I'm right here!"

So yeah if you can find a good hding area, take down a couple of people and then move to a different area. You can actually be a legitimate sniper without resorting to staying in one spot for the next decade.

It is possible, in fact that's what I do - snipe an enemy then haul ass away, so they don't figure out your location. It's not camping, since I'm constantly moving.

See? He understands how a proper sniper operates. Keep on the move else you'll just make yourself known to the rest of the enemy team where you're hiding

 

[Nannernade]

Of course it is possible to snipe without camping, it is actually effective to kill about three, four people then move wash, rinse and repeat. The thing is though, every once in a while you get caught up in it and end up staying in that one spot and then you're classified as a camper.

 

[teisjm]

Yeah, you can keep moving around between shots/kills.

You can go no-scope and use your sniper as a close range shotgun, at least in some games.

You can quick-scope, and use it as any semi-auto/manual (depending on sniper) rifle with hefty damage if you're skilled enough.

Quick scoping takes skill? That's a new one. I didn't know being a douche bag was a skill now.

Didn' say it required huge amount of skill or anything, i just find a normal shotgun for insatnce a lot easier to kill with.

Dunno why its a douchebag move either, it's game mechanics, just like camping, insta-kill melee, rushing and all the other stuff people whine about when they loose/get's kileld to it.

 

[Sinclair Solutions]

I would think so. Most games have multiple high points in levels. If you travel between those high points throughout the game, I wouldn't consider that cheating. You would have to go into the heat of battle at least a few times, so it's not like you are cowering in fear the whole time.

 

[RicoADF]

Here's the difference though, a real sniper has an entire world (within the view of his/her scope) to snipe from, whereas in a game you've only got the space of the map to snipe from. It means that your potential sniping points are much more limited than an actual sniper. That doesn't mean it's not possible to avoid camping while playing a sniping class, but it does kind of make that particular argument invalid.

Right, and besides that, IRL Sniping is a two-men-job. Lets take MW2 as an example, you would use your .cal 50 M82 on a range your target would have no chance of getting you (except for sniping aswell) and you would get rid of your target easier. I mean, you wouldn't need a headshot to one-shot-kill somebody. A .50BMG would kill the target, even if you only hit the arm anyway.
So games aren't compareable to RL. At least not until we get a game, with graphics like Crysis and large open environments like Borderlands, where you could shoot enemies from a distance, they wouldn't even try to come to/shoot you.

It's called ArmA II & its expansion Operation Arrowhead, have a look:
http://www.arma2.com/

 

[Jfswift]

It is although it's alot harder. I'm not very good at it myself although a friend of mine is. I've watched him stand out in the open and take shots at people then keep moving.

 

[Death God]

So long as you are high enough, have a good vantage point, and hidden well, then yes. But if your out in the open, no. Never.

 

[Riddle78]

Shoot n' scoot. That's how it works. Or,if you're feeling really ballsy,shoot while scooting. Aim high,and master this majestic weapon to the point of game-breaking.

 

[C95J]

or you could become a "quickscoper", be hated by every right-minded person in the world and turn into the scourge of humanity.

you are my new best friend

 

[Kukakkau]

Fire and move - what you should be doing in any game regardless

Camping can be a problem but if you've been there too long players will know where to use their explosives

 

[devence132]

Sorta... I've Sniped and i always fired one shot then moved...but i still was one step from where i was.

 

[DazBurger]

I think it is, because in real sniping, you fire one shot and move, as opposed to firing several shots and staying where you are.

Real sniping is rarely about being on the move, its about staying hidden and moving kinda ruins that.

Snipers IRL rarely go into action without a spotter, at least in present day.

My proof? Look at ghillie-suits. Big and fluffy, easy to spot if moving and makes noise when shaken.

Spoiler

Also, take a look at Simo Häyhä (nicknamed "White Death"), the worlds most successful sniper.
During the Finnish-soviet war in 1939?1940, this Finn attained the highest recorded number of confirmed kills in any war. 705 confirmed kills, but later estimations puts it to be over 800.

He did this by wearing his all-white suit, which blended in with the snow and then digged in.
One of his tactics was to compress the snow around him so it wouldn't move.
This lump of human-shaped epicness survived counter-snipers, tanks and artillery bombardment, specifically meant for him, and he was finally stopped March 6, 1940 when some lucky ruski managed to shoot him in the head.
He regained consciousness March 13.

Erhm... Where was I going with this?.. Oh... Ya! I remember!..
If anyone can be called a IRL sniper, its this guy... And he was the greatest camper of all time!

 

[xXGeckoXx]

Easily. Camping is actually a bad idea because then you can be counter-sniped.

Exactly. One or a volley of shots then move.

 

[Shock and Awe]

Yes, either by moving often(which is smart) or by CQC sniping(which is stupid)

 

[Singularly Datarific]

Off topic: I find the main problem with sniping in games is that it is hardly an appropriate tactic when in Real Life, the distances being shot from could and SHOULD be able to hit with a standard rifle.

 

[ZaxqZombie]

yes because i do it all time in bad co. 2 by moving from place to place and sniping