Poll: Is it wrong to be a social shapeshifter?

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Spawn_Of_Kyuss

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Abedeus said:
"What a shallow and pointless being. Changing yourself just to fit in..."


"Oh, and this also shows lack of self-respect."
You irritate me.

Not because you're judging people, because you're way up your own ass if you seriously believe you're always "yourself". Also that you believe it matters. Happiness should be the overall goal. If you're genuinely happy it shouldn't matter if you're displaying your face or what you consider your real you.
 

smithy1234

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If you want to be a poser or professional pretender that's your choice. Personally I think you should develop your own style instead.
 

asinann

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If people don't like who you really are they can go to hell, they'll find out eventually anyway.
 

Abedeus

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Spawn_Of_Kyuss said:
Abedeus said:
"What a shallow and pointless being. Changing yourself just to fit in..."


"Oh, and this also shows lack of self-respect."
You irritate me.

Not because you're judging people, because you're way up your own ass if you seriously believe you're always "yourself". Also that you believe it matters. Happiness should be the overall goal. If you're genuinely happy it shouldn't matter if you're displaying your face or what you consider your real you.
And you irritate me, because you are one of hundreds of thousands copycats that can only adjust to the group by imitating them, acting as they want. You'll never find anyone who likes something like that for more than 2 weeks. I mean, what's the point of a discussion if the other person is always agreeing with you?
 

Spawn_Of_Kyuss

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Abedeus said:
And you irritate me, because you are one of hundreds of thousands copycats that can only adjust to the group by imitating them, acting as they want. You'll never find anyone who likes something like that for more than 2 weeks. I mean, what's the point of a discussion if the other person is always agreeing with you?
You don't even know my name, let alone what I'm like. Please don't assume you do.

I have friends I've known since nursery school who I still meet up with regularly. What I'm saying is that social shapeshifting is something which affects us on an entirely personal level. Its up to you and you alone whether it makes the slightest iota of difference and who is Abedeus to tell you otherwise?

That's why you irritate me.
 

timetuner

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Abedeus" post="18.101586.1575048 said:
I would die before I admit I like what my pop-listening schoolmate (a girl, of course) listens to and tries to sing.

I hope that is sarchasm because that is worse that the social shapeshifting. I find denying the true self to satisfy a self pecieved persona is more twisted than creating a persona for the sake of formality
 

timetuner

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Abedeus said:
I would die before I admit I like what my pop-listening schoolmate (a girl, of course) listens to and tries to sing.


I hope that is sarchasm because that is worse that the social shapeshifting. I find denying the true self to satisfy a self pecieved persona is more twisted than creating a persona for the sake of sociality
 

Kogarian

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Not at all. Why should I confine myself to one group when I only like a few people from that clique? I go from every social circle to be with the people I want to talk to. Sure, I act slightly different each time, just so their other friends feel comfortable enough to l joke around and such, but I don't see a problem with it. When I'm just with my friends one on one, I act the way I am.
 

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The way i see it it's fine as long as you can get away with it. :p There's no one who never does it. Who here doesn't cut down on the cursing while your parents or grandparents are within earshot?

I tend to keep most of my personality, beliefs and such, but other than that i go with the crowd, if you make it too obvious it tends to backfire.

I guy in my class used to follow me and my friends around, against our will, and we made a game out of testing his spinelessness. We found that he could change opinions in the blink of an eye and he would laugh even when we insulted him. It could never count as anything but a textbook insult and he would still laugh as long as anyone of us laughed.
 

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As a social shapeshifter, I have to say it does bring a lot of trouble.
But if it's really part of your personality, then there is nothing you can do and people should just accept it.
 

Abedeus

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timetuner said:
Abedeus said:
I would die before I admit I like what my pop-listening schoolmate (a girl, of course) listens to and tries to sing.


I hope that is sarchasm because that is worse that the social shapeshifting. I find denying the true self to satisfy a self pecieved persona is more twisted than creating a persona for the sake of sociality
It was a more clever way of saying "I won't say I like something just because someone else does and I want to appear cooler in his eyes". Sorry you didn't notice, mister "sarchasm".


Spawn_Of_Kyuss said:
Abedeus said:
And you irritate me, because you are one of hundreds of thousands copycats that can only adjust to the group by imitating them, acting as they want. You'll never find anyone who likes something like that for more than 2 weeks. I mean, what's the point of a discussion if the other person is always agreeing with you?
You don't even know my name, let alone what I'm like. Please don't assume you do.

I have friends I've known since nursery school who I still meet up with regularly. What I'm saying is that social shapeshifting is something which affects us on an entirely personal level. Its up to you and you alone whether it makes the slightest iota of difference and who is Abedeus to tell you otherwise?

That's why you irritate me.
Honestly? If your friends are befriended, for example (that's just an example, for Christ's sake), with a clever, wise-cracking intolerant person, and you are not wise-cracking and intolerant, then who are they really befriended with?

Seriously, if you appear as 2 different people to 2 different friends (who don't know each other), then it's either a tricky manipulation or a double personality.

Of course, I don't know your name. But I can judge someone that enjoys changing personalities "just to fit in". That's like selling your name to a drug company and then denying it.
 

Steve Dark

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Everyone acts differently in different situations. If you're not doing it on a conscious level then no matter how many different ways you act they're all you, it's just different people bring out different sides of you.
 

timetuner

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alright, you made it sound as if you did like the music she was trying to sing,if that was only miscommunication then you opinion is valid and my original criticism is null. However, your zealocy and hostility are not. Does a bird not preen its feathers before seeking a mate or a mammal act more aggresive to accomplish the same?
 

EternityTransfer

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Personally, I tend to live one life. My friends know me as one person, and my family as the same person, and strangers as the same person as well. I will be damned if I will change just to fit in or just so that YOU (whoever) will like me, or even to further myself. If you don't like me, so be it.

I believe in telling it like it is, no euphemism, and no fannying about. People are divided into two broad categories: Pretentious, and the rest. The rest gets my attention, pretentiousness can go f*** itself.
 

Spawn_Of_Kyuss

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Abedeus said:
Honestly? If your friends are befriended, for example (that's just an example, for Christ's sake), with a clever, wise-cracking intolerant person, and you are not wise-cracking and intolerant, then who are they really befriended with?

Seriously, if you appear as 2 different people to 2 different friends (who don't know each other), then it's either a tricky manipulation or a double personality.

Of course, I don't know your name. But I can judge someone that enjoys changing personalities "just to fit in". That's like selling your name to a drug company and then denying it.
I'm not going to argue with you any more for two reasons.

1. Your point keeps changing. Either that or you're not making it clear.

2. You have too much pride to bother trying to understand what I'm saying. This will descend into a flaming quagmire.

Finally, I'll re-iterate my personal standpoint on this. I don't give a shit what is thought of me. I'll do the social dance with people I simply need to get along with so as to keep out of confrontations, which is something you badly need to do in the army. Anyone I want to know for more than I need to gets the real me, bizarre opinions and all. Either you like me or you don't.
 

Abedeus

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Spawn_Of_Kyuss said:
I don't give a shit what is thought of me.
Then you have no respect to yourself and your heritage.


End of discussion, kthxbye.