Poll: Is Music Art?

[SonicKoala]

Why is the only "yes" option "I think so". I would have liked there to be a "FUCK YES WHY EVEN ASK THAT QUESTION" option. Of COURSE music is art - music is my favourite kind of art. As far as I'm concerned, music is the ultimate artistic medium - no other medium is capable of conveying such emotion, beauty, or meaning as well as music can (mind you, I'm thinking of my favourite bands when I write that unnecessarily sappy line). And just like with sculptures or paintings, there are bad ones, and there are good ones. The majority of popular music today is on the bad side, but it's still art.

 

[baseracer]

Yes I do think that music is art. I may not like most of it, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[minoes]

[I/][B/]"Music is an art form whose medium is sound[/B]. Common elements of music are pitch (which governs melody and harmony), rhythm (and its associated concepts tempo, meter, and articulation), dynamics, and the sonic qualities of timbre and texture. The word derives from Greek (mousike), "(art) of the Muses".

[B/]The creation, performance, significance, and even the definition of music vary according to culture and social context. Music ranges from strictly organized compositions (and their recreation in performance), through improvisational music to aleatoric forms[/B]. Music can be divided into genres and subgenres, although the dividing lines and relationships between music genres are often subtle, sometimes open to individual interpretation, and occasionally controversial.[B/] Within "the arts", music may be classified as a performing art, a fine art, and auditory art."[/B][/I]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music

 

[Heart of Darkness]

All modern music today is entertainment. Only some of it will become art during the next few decades...

...What? Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven weren't the only performers out there in their times...

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Any music written with a message because that is what the songwriter wanted to play, not for profit, is art.

Any music written with the sole intention of money is not art.

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

Someone said something about Modern art and Rap being alike.



I agree.



I hate Modern Art and I hate Rap.

 

[somerandomguy76]

User was put on probation for: Cross-dressing. (3 days).

This made me giggle

OT:
Art has different definitions to different people. I, for one, don't see much modern music as "art" in its purest form. An expression of emotion or opinion certainly, but not so much art.

However, it is perfectly acceptable for others to believe that it is. This is one of the greatest parts of art: its ability to be defined according to the individual.

 

[minoes]

This is also considered art. So yah, art is in the eye of the beholder.

Actually Found art (or Readymade) is only art because the artist says it is.

I don't believe their is One True Deffinition, I believe Art is open to interpretation, whether that be from an individual or from the mass. But I could never quantify all of art in one deffinition. It's sorta the point of the post to get everyone's own deffinition

The truth is that our opinions doesn´t matter when it comes to define something as art, lets take Piero Manzoni´s Artist's shit [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artist%27s_Shit] as an example, is not up to us (as beholders) to tell if a "can full of feces" is or not "art", only the artist can define that, as heyheysg said:

[quote/]Art can be anything as long as you can explain it.

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Now if a homeless person takes a dump on a can, he is not creating art (he is merely deficating), and we can´t call that art either (even if someone has done the same thing before), because he is not trying to expressing anything through said act.

 

[TSED]

Was trying to say why does no one from relatively recent times get the same treatment

Think I'll step on this one:
Because The Beatles got in on the ground floor of Rock & Roll. EVERYTHING derived from this, be it any form of metal or hard rock or glam rock or WHATEVER, is influenced by The Beatles.

Shut up, yes it is. Maybe indirectly. By now, maybe 8 or more generations of music away from direct influence of The Beatles. But it's still there.




OT: Yes. Just because music does not appeal to your aesthetics (trust me I am the posterchild for this. I am a TOTALLY ELITIST DOUCHE when it comes to music), it is still art.

 

[Oldmanwillow]

All modern music today is entertainment. Only some of it will become art during the next few decades...

...What? Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven weren't the only performers out there in their times...

Mozart was unpopular because how he lived, he had friends in the wrong political groups (Masons) . All the composers of his times respected and adored him especially Haydn

Beethoven was amazing popular during his time. He affected music during that time more than anyone could believe.

An example of a composer that did become popular until after his death is Schubert. We all know his music from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrmYXsujI.

Bach didnt become popular until the early 1800's as well due to Felix Mendelson

All music is art there is just good and bad. (nothing is better than Brahms)

 

[Heart of Darkness]

All modern music today is entertainment. Only some of it will become art during the next few decades...

...What? Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven weren't the only performers out there in their times...

Mozart was unpopular because how he lived, he had friends in the wrong political groups (Masons) . All the composers of his times respected and adored him especially Haydn

Beethoven was amazing popular during his time. He affected music during that time more than anyone could believe.

An example of a composer that did become popular until after his death is Schubert. We all know his music from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uYrmYXsujI.

Bach didnt become popular until the early 1800's as well due to Felix Mendelson

All music is art there is just good and bad. (nothing is better than Brahms)

Your first and third points kinda support mine, y'know...

 

[heyheysg]

Art can be anything as long as you can explain it.

Building a giant middle finger sculpture is also art

Google "Magnet on TV."

 

[Xpwn3ntial]

If you acknowledge music as art and all music (even the kinds you don't like) to BE music, you are my friend. You know, none of that,"Rap isn't really music." blah blah blah

 

[Shralla]

Shut up, yes it is. Maybe indirectly. By now, maybe 8 or more generations of music away from direct influence of The Beatles. But it's still there.

Indeed. Quite depressing.

I hate Modern Art and I hate Rap.

I'd be willing to bet you've never heard any rap that can't be heard on MTV or the radio.

 

[Cakes]

I think a better question is, what is "art"?

 

[Eldarion]

I think a better question is, what is "art"?

Art is the expression of something.

That is it.

Technically, most of everything is art.

 

[joystickjunki3]

All music is art. Maybe not good art, but art nonetheless.

 

[iJosh]

User was put on probation for: Cross-dressing. (3 days).

This made me giggle

OT:
Art has different definitions to different people. I, for one, don't see much modern music as "art" in its purest form. An expression of emotion or opinion certainly, but not so much art.

However, it is perfectly acceptable for others to believe that it is. This is one of the greatest parts of art: its ability to be defined according to the individual.

I get put on probation for "lol'ing". Just to let you guys know. Don't laugh the admins will get you!!!

 

[Simalacrum]

Really depends on music. I think songs with genuine purpose, emotional significance, or a important message, etc etc, can be considered art. For example, I'd consider "Know your rights" by The Clash a form of art, as it is a political outcry against neo-conservatism and hypocratic politicians, or pieces by Studio Ghibli's musical master, Joe Hisaishi, as his songs create a genuine emtional response (in my opinion, at least).

However, random bullsh** which only talks about sex, drugs, etc, like a lot of recently R&B/Rap rubbish I wouldn't consider art. If they took a mature approach to the subjects, maybe... but honestly I don't think they really do.

 

[Talendra]

It is said that for something to be art it has to have no funtion other than being pleasing to the senses. In this case music does fulfill these requirements.

Not really, many artworks are far from pleasing to the senses. The way I consider art is that it must contain a meaning and invoke emotion, and what is art to one person may not be art for another.
Really anything has the potential to be art, but can not be considered art just because they belong to a specific medium.
Some movies are art, others are just entertainment. Some paintings are art, others just look nice on your wall.
In my opinion, the best art is that which gives different meanings to different people, and it is why often artists will not tell you what their artwork means, but instead ask you what you think it means.

Woh got on a bit of a rambling rant there.. Sorry