Poll: Is Music Art?

[FROGGEman2]

Art is intention, and if you intend for something to be art, it's art.

 

[Vlane]

For me art is about creating something and since you create something when you play an instrument/sing/whatever music is art.

Sure some types of music aren't as "artsy" (if that's a word but I hope you get what I mean) as others but the same can be said for everything art related.

 

[TheBarefootBandit]

It gets an opinion so... I don't know.

 

[Blazing Steel]

I put: I don't think so because in my opinion it isn't. Simple. I could go into a long explanation, but I don't need to. If you completely dissagree with me; then fine. When people use the term "art" it all comes down to the beholder since a classical painter would call all the moden stuff an atrocity.

Everyone is entitalled to their own opinion and they should change it just because some tells them so. If you think it's art. Then it is. If you don't think it's are then it isn't. Eye of the beholder and so on...

Also slightly off topic: I already think the tearm "art" is way over used.

 

[JC175]

But why has Music of late (generally) not on par with those bands. Why does no one say: "That [band name] are great, like The Beatles, y'know?"

Music of late is exactly the same as music in the 60's. Keep in mind that the Beatles were considered rebellious and were very much a band of the younger generation in their time. Nobody says that a band is great like the Beatles because a modern band doesn't have time to build 40 years of legend behind it. Wait a couple of decades before you judge, time manufactures all "legends".

OT, all music is art. Some of it is definitely better than others, but every single piece of music that has ever been created is a form of art, as it expresses an emotion or a feeling in a creative form. Remember that "art" does not equal "quality", there are plenty of shithouse paintings and sculptures and the like that have been created, mark my words.

 

[Player 2]

Yep, it's either good art [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LDEm8mC-Nw&feature=player_embedded#] or bad art [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edaJP3Lp0Gg], but it's all still art.

 

[Zac_Dai]

Was trying to say why does no one from relatively recent times get the same treatment

Think I'll step on this one:
Because The Beatles got in on the ground floor of Rock & Roll. EVERYTHING derived from this, be it any form of metal or hard rock or glam rock or WHATEVER, is influenced by The Beatles.

Shut up, yes it is. Maybe indirectly. By now, maybe 8 or more generations of music away from direct influence of The Beatles. But it's still there.




OT: Yes. Just because music does not appeal to your aesthetics (trust me I am the posterchild for this. I am a TOTALLY ELITIST DOUCHE when it comes to music), it is still art.

Yeah Beatles are legendary for their bland pop music for the masses and influencing thousands of other bland pop music bands.

Good thing the Beatles influence thing is bullshit otherwise every band/artist would sound as boring as they were.

 

[zen5887]

You betcha!

There are some songs that are more arty than others however.

 

[IDBash]

Outside of Hip-Hop and Rap... Yes.

You really couldn't be more ignorant if you tried. LOL FIFTY CENT SUCKS SO RAP ISN'T ART

SPOILERS: Everything on the radio sucks, and if poetry is art, rap HAS to be art.

Who said poetry was art? It is literature... not art. Art is something that can be passively perceived. Literature is active, you have to consciously read it. And that is my personal opinion, there is nothing ignorant about it. I run a production company in my free time, and I know what good music is and what sucks. Do you realize how simple rap and hip-hop are? 2 tracks... that is it. 1 is the music the other is the vocals. All the people that can't make it in other genres do it after they get shunned from the others. I curse myself everytime I get dragged into one of their shows, because it is utterly disgusting!

Outside of Hip-Hop and Rap... Yes.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. I believe it is just as much art as any other music. The way some (not all, yes many rappers are absolute trash, but so are most of every genre) can play with beats and use wordplay never ceases to amaze me. And lest you forget, when a member of the band Oasis tried to call out Jay-Z on this issue, he proceeded to play one of their most popular songs, both playing lead guitar and singing lead. I'd like to see anyone form Oasis repeat one of Jay-Z's raps.

First off, there is no lead guitarist in Oasis, only a rhythm. Second, anyone can learn a piece of music, but that doesn't mean they can write it. I can play Canon in D on my guitar or the Piano....BUT I never could have wrote it. But I don't mind that you disagree with me. My point was it is not art, not that it didn't take talent. It is destroyed poetry over stolen electronica beats. And hip-hop is 90's electronica's and disco's bastard child that discovered auto-tune. You want to see what it stole? Go to di.fm the website and listen to goa-psytrance and break beats, and you will see the art that they stole.

Also, listen to the Gabber... cause it is awesome.. Hardcore-house that originated in Russia.

EDIT: I hate when people think that opinions can be ignorant.. it is just outright dumb. I have reasoning behind my opinion, I use logic among other things to formulate and support my opinion, and if you don't agree, then you pry have your own reasoning and logic behind it. It is not ignorant just because you don't agree with it! /rant

 

[teisjm]

Yes, but i wish it wasn't.

Don't get me wrong i don't think graphic art is better than music, but since they're 2 completely different things, I don't think grouping them makes sense.

If it was up to me, Art would be well graphical art, like pictures paintings sculptures etc. Music would be... Music which would be just as good as before, but less confusing.

I just don't get why musicians can't just be musicians, or is artist a fancier word which makes them sound better?

 

[CIA]

It's like comparing XKCD to DaVinci.

Well, there are some marked similarities. Perhaps comparing the art of Da Vinci to XKCD makes little sense, but think of Da Vinci's journals. They were full of new inventions and scientific theories, as well as drawings. Perhaps XKCD is less willing to implement the ideas it expresses, but I think there is a comparison to be made.

 

[cordeos]

Rap is a perfect example of how some is and some isn't. There is rap that is practically poetry, then there is the mindless popular drivel most of which is practically hate speech against women.

 

[Ancientgamer]

I see three type of people in this thread.

People who don't know what art is.

People who have an awful sense of scale and perception.

People who don't listen to music at all.

Most people fall into two of those categories.

Also, music as art goes back way before the beatles or queen you know? I won't even go so far as to say they're particularly definitive.


People who chose option 3 need to seriously think over their views.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

All music is art. Bad music is merely bad art.

 

[Maheemo]

Music is as much art as porn, so yes.

 

[stone0042]

Rap is a perfect example of how some is and some isn't. There is rap that is practically poetry, then there is the mindless popular drivel most of which is practically hate speech against women.

This is exactly how i feel. Rapper's like Jay-Z (who isn't even the best) are a thousand times better than jokes like Lil Boosie.

 

[ProfessorLayton]

All music is art. And as with all art, there is good and bad. Stuff that you don't like that others do.

 

[martin's a madman]

Before, I would agree with you, but now. I just cannot do it. Simply because you dislike something does not make it any less valid an art form than any other. Taste is subjective, what is this stigma about music having to display some grand message or change the world? Music was invented purely as entertainment and that is what it is.

 

[ygetoff]

It is said that for something to be art it has to have no funtion other than being pleasing to the senses. In this case music does fulfill these requirements.

Exactly this. There really is no "high art" and "low art", just things that make us think or laugh or cry or whatever is in between, no matter what drives us to those emotions and what those thoughts may be about.