Poll: Is the law incorruptible?

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Kiutu

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I should also add how it is not legal everywhere in the States for homosexuals to get married. Why? Cause God says so. Seperation of Church and State should be followed to the fullest. The leader of the US is the president who is supposed to be the voice of the people. We are not lead by some guy in Italy with a funny hat.
 

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xxcloud417xx said:
Simple question: is the law incorruptible? The answer might not be so simple. Give me your thoughts. Personally I say that the law will always remain pure and incorruptible since it's an idea created for the very purpose of protection, safety, order and equality. It's humanity that is corrupt and uses it to his means.
The law is obviously corruptible, because it is humans that define what law is. Look at Apertheid South Africa, where racial segregation was lawful, the law can be corrupted to make the immoral lawful. There are certain moral truisms that are felt fundamentally by humans but they are not laws per se...
 

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As long as there are lawyers, and cases decided by a jury of our peers, the law is capable of corruption because men are by nature imperfect, and for laws to be incorruptible, they must embody perfection.
 

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george144 said:
Humanity is corrupt, humanity created law, ergo law is corrupt. Also your a little vague on what you mean, are you talking about laws themselves, the police force that upholds the law, or simply some metaphorical essence of lawfulness?
I think he's talking about the latter.
 

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You've got to be kidding me! I swear it's a constant problem in today's society where laws are made to just screw over good people. I just heard this week that you can be held liable in my state if your dog bites some one...


..who was robbing your house...



Yeah, and it can lead to your dog being destroyed too. No fucking sense of justice any more. That is even the least of my complaints when it comes to how the government bleeds money constantly from people in the forms of taxes and fines on every damn thing you do, or how the copyright system is upheld. I'm still horribly bitter on how that traffic ticket I got was handled.

It all just pisses me off how some people can even consider any law to be infallible, let alone dictate their sense of justice and morals.
 

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Aac18 said:
No, most laws are subject to interpretation (at least too some degree) so the option to corrupt their purpose is always there.
And bingo was his name-o.
Man by nature is flawed,
therefore laws made by man are flawed. Or something like that.
 

DrDeath3191

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Law itself is incorruptible. It represents how order and morality should be practiced. However, how men interpret Law is where things become gray.
 

iamthehorde

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xxcloud417xx said:
Simple question: is the law incorruptible? The answer might not be so simple. Give me your thoughts. Personally I say that the law will always remain pure and incorruptible since it's an idea created for the very purpose of protection, safety, order and equality. It's humanity that is corrupt and uses it to his means.
within your definition, you are right. but in reality, not really. the problem is, there has to be an entity that gives the law, as the only laws without people who invent them are laws like the laws of physics and such, which exist regardless of the existence of man or any living thing.
 

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The law is corrupted.
Poor people have less rights than the rich.
For the right sum, goverments rewrite laws to fit the corporations.
A man with a badge can do unspeakable things and get away with it.
The same for a man with a good lawyer.
Nothing smart enough to talk is incorruptible.
 

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concrete89 said:
The law is corrupted.
Poor people have less rights than the rich.
For the right sum, goverments rewrite laws to fit the corporations.
A man with a badge can do unspeakable things and get away with it.
The same for a man with a good lawyer.
Nothing smart enough to talk is incorruptible.
see here now, its not the law thats corrupted, its people. The law is an objective concept we invented in order to govern populations en masse, however, certain individuals of said population feel it prudent to take advantage of a system they and many deemed flawed because they either are greedy, full of pride, or suffer from one of the other 7 cliche sins...
the law in and of itself is nothing, simply a set of rules. a set of rules many of you seem to be in a hurry to deem as "flawed" or "corrupt"
as for your whole "nothing smart enough to talk..." bit, how do you know? have you met every one? psychologically profiled every living creature that "talks"? Im sure you will eventually find someone who fits your pathetic subjective view of "un-corruptable"
sincerely,
the nihilist
 

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AHA! HA! HA HA! Oh boy you sure are quite the jokester are you? Now in reality is the law incorruptible? No, not by a long shot, as long as you have the right connections, you can accomplish anything, and I mean anything. You don't like somebody? The right connections will get them to disappear and no questions asked. Now this being said it makes me absolutely sick that we, as humans, are so easily corrupted. See my future career is oddly enough going to be a lawyer, and I would love to say that I'm going to be a fucking ray of sunshine and never even be so much as tempted to take a cut of the pay and shut up. Sure I'll be tempted to, trick is to not give in.

Well seeing as how I am physically drained from boot camp, that's all for today kids.

Peace, War, Love, Hate, Chaos, and Greed
-Unstoppable Wall
 

concrete89

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Lullabye said:
concrete89 said:
The law is corrupted.
Poor people have less rights than the rich.
For the right sum, goverments rewrite laws to fit the corporations.
A man with a badge can do unspeakable things and get away with it.
The same for a man with a good lawyer.
Nothing smart enough to talk is incorruptible.
see here now, its not the law thats corrupted, its people. The law is an objective concept we invented in order to govern populations en masse, however, certain individuals of said population feel it prudent to take advantage of a system they and many deemed flawed because they either are greedy, full of pride, or suffer from one of the other 7 cliche sins...
the law in and of itself is nothing, simply a set of rules. a set of rules many of you seem to be in a hurry to deem as "flawed" or "corrupt"
as for your whole "nothing smart enough to talk..." bit, how do you know? have you met every one? psychologically profiled every living creature that "talks"? Im sure you will eventually find someone who fits your pathetic subjective view of "un-corruptable"
sincerely,
the nihilist
The law is made by people.
People can be corrupted.
Since corrupt people can change the law, the law is corruptible.

And since everyone have things they need, crave or hate, those things can corrupt them.
Since everyone has weaknesses, they can be corrupted.

And I am positive that I will never meet anyone incorruptible.
And how is my definition of incorruptible subjective?
"Incorruptible" means: Something that cannot be corrupted.
I had no idea that I was the only one who thought that...
Lastly, I admit that the last sentence of my previous post was incorrect.
You don't have to be smart enough to speak to be corruptible.
 

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...just no.

Unless Judgment Day happens, humanity will poison everything.

Everything is imperfect