Poll: Is the XCM XFPS device cheating?

[Abedeus]

It's also unfair to have a nice TV and even more unfair to have an excellent internet connection...Finally, it's really unfair to have a high quality pair of headphones with great stereo imaging. It's basically like a wallhack; that's how effective a good pair of headphones are.

All of these things cost more than the XCM as well, but how many of you are on broadband? How many of you have an HDTV? You're all cheating scum ;D

Better graphics =/= advantage. This may apply to a PC, where better PC = more FPS, but on consoles it's void.

Headphones - oh please.

Excellent internet connection - every online game has that problem, on all consoles.


XCM, however, is different. Maybe just by the fact that I have yet to see one in Poland. Not every country or city has one. As opposed to TVs and other additions.

 

[Vlane]

So if I use an arcade stick for any fighting game online that is cheating? Ok I get it now... that's bullshit.

 

[Gormers1]

XCM, however, is different. Maybe just by the fact that I have yet to see one in Poland. Not every country or city has one. As opposed to TVs and other additions.

How often are you playing against Americans?

Isn't that the point? That he has no possibility of getting it, but he plays against Americans who have all the time?

But yeah, headset can be more important than mouse in halo because of the more slow kind of pace.

 

[Nifty]

They're playing an FPS how God intended, with a keyboard and mouse. Unless you feel that they're getting more enjoyment out of playing it properly than you are with a clumsy control pad then it's not cheating.

It's readily available to anyone who wants to shell out the cash if they can be bothered with importing it from Amazon UK, hell I'd be tempted to pick it up if it wasn't £60 odd. But you know, I'll just stick with my PC.

 

[Zetona]

Someone mentioned steering wheels for racings games, and I figured I'd comment on that.

Steering Wheels, in my experience, are about trying to add 'realism', not give an edge. I give consistently better lap-times on Gran Turismo with a controller than a steering wheel. Force-feedback is unsettling, the wheel doesn't behave like it should (I drive a real car, so I know exactly what it should be like), it's a pain in the arse setting them up in a user-friendly way, and overall people who want that absolute best lap-time should stick with the controller.

I can guarantee using a Keyboard and Mouse is not adding realism to your FPS experience.

You've evidently never played the likes of GTR Evolution or Grand Prix Legends. They may not be much closer to the actual behaviour of the real-life cars regarding force feedback, but you sure as hell need a steering wheel. You can't successfully play these games with a controller. You need force-feedback.

At the other end of the spectrum is Trackmania, an arcade racer that rewards technical driving. Most people play with the arrow keys (including me), but a few play with gamepads, which offers more precise control. I'm more torn as to whether that's cheating, for some reason (I think the XCM is definitely cheating), because the effects are less noticeable.

 

[BubbleGumSnareDrum]

That thing is ridiculous. Mouse and keyboard is superior for FPS, but I'll only use it on 360 when it starts becoming standard and I don't have to buy a special adapter to do it.

Not to mention that thing has turbo.

 

[Blank__]

The device works much like the SmartJoy Frag, and I found myself refamiliarizing with Halo 3's controls. Even out of the gate, I was already performing acts that would have been next to impossible on a controller; such as a clever sword dodge that lead to a beat down. Previously with Halo 2, I was able to almost double my rank by simply getting a Smartjoy Frag. Halo 3 ask me, is much improved for balance and controls as for whatever reason, I was able to attain a low 40s rank, something I'd never been able to do with a controller in in Halo 2. The question is how much of a better player will this device make me. If Halo 2 was any indication, it should make me about twice as good, but I sincerely doubt that. If anything, it'll alleviate a lot of my frustration that I have with the controller.

Uh, it seems that this device is specifically built to allow one to more easily dominate in the 360 FPSs. This guy estimates that it doubled his skill, where the only difference is using a mouse versus a controller? Yeah, seems like blatant cheating, to me.

 

[JokerGrin]

It's part of the reason why I'll never get a LIVE gold account for my 360. I have a PC for my multiplayering.

 

[The_Leninator]

One of the primary rules of war is to use whatever you can to attain victory. If you need a modded controller to win because you do not have the natural skill, then so be it. I personally like the challenge of going up against these guys. When I win, it is all the sweeter, and when I lose, then there is something to blame haha jk

 

[3rd rung]

honestly I tink it is outside the spirit of the game on xbox if you want to use a mouse and keyboard why would you not buy the game for the PC in the first place I think it is people are buying these for the porpuse they get an advantage out of it when they are playing because they have something I with a controller will not have that is gives them some what of an edge beyond what skill set the two players have

 

[shadow skill]

So if I use an arcade stick for any fighting game online that is cheating? Ok I get it now... that's bullshit.

That's pretty dense you know, a fighting game is not nearly as dependent on reflexes in the way a shooter is. Between a mouse and a keyboard one guy is going to have a distinct advantage over another because of the device itself. That advantage does not really exist in fighting games unless you start talking about turbo functionality. If someone can do a hundred hand slap effectively forever because of the turbo functionality, while the other player cannot because they are not using a controller with turbo functionality, the guy with the turbo is cheating.

A fighting stick simply does not grant the kind of advantage over pad players that a mouse would grant (Assuming equal skill.) over someone using a stick to aim.

 

[Nutcase]

Since it seems from the latest posts that Second-Thought's insightful analysis was TLR for too many, here it is in a nutshell.

The situation here is not XBox->Controller vs XBox->K&M.

The situation is XBox->Controller vs XBox->Controller->K&M.

Any input the K&M produces has to be "squeezed through" whatever limitations there are on the controller.

All these guys are doing is using what is (in their opinion) a better controller. That is not cheating any more than using an arcade stick is cheating.

 

[RetiarySword]

Unfiar advantage, or disadvantage depending on the player. The consle is made to be as balanced as possible and that includes hardware. Anyone who buys this peice of crap is an idiot.

 

[Zer_]

Definitely some interesting comments made in this thread. To me it goes to show how closed minded the console community is to new control methods. The PC community would embrace a new peripheral catered towards FPS games (provided it's a GOOD peripheral).

 

[inkheart_artist]

I was actually thinking of getting the one that allows you to use a PS 2 controller because the xbox controller is so horrid for fighting games, and NO its not cheating. Come on, get serious.

 

[Wargamer]

Definitely some interesting comments made in this thread. To me it goes to show how closed minded the console community is to new control methods. The PC community would embrace a new peripheral catered towards FPS games (provided it's a GOOD peripheral).

You've totally missed the point.

Console gaming welcomes and any all new additions, providing they are official additions. Nobody bitches about how Guitar Hero controllers are a load of crap, or how Steering Wheels are cheating.

If a FPS came out with an official keyboard and mouse package included, or released at the same time, it would be embraced because it is clearly the intention of the game makers for us to use this peripheral.

The XCM XFPS even advertises itself as a tool for cheating, so it is in now way, shape or form acceptable.

 

[cainx10a]

Let's see, with my old Microsoft Intelliexplorer 1.1a special ed ($20), I could still 'pwn' players using the Microsoft Intelliexplorer 3.0 black edition (or the latest re-release if you prefer), logitech and razer gaming mouses (ranging between $50-$100) along with gaming mousepads ($20-$50) and gaming keyboards ($75).

And now that this XPM gadget is allowing the more intelligent gamers who want to play an fps the way it's meant to be played with the comfort and precision of the latest gaming tech, it's called cheating ? Give them a damn break, a good investment should mean the player should also receive a good experience.

 

[Limasol]

I think i might get one for halo wars, but as i only use a gamepad for fps's, even on PC i don't see a need for it. I understand that mouse and keyboard is faster but the xbox360, and every other console, was released with a game pad, and all the games work that way, juryrigging a third party solution to do this makes me think your too obsessed with winning, go play on PC