Poll: Is this feminism or just fucking madness? (Male and Female opinions appreciated)

[Tomster595]

That's just... just.... I don't fucking know.

 

[Serenegoose]

Stuff I agree with snip!

I've been thinking on how I would say exactly that since the thread popped up. Thanks, BonsaiK.

 

[major28]

this would be amazing if people werent taking them seriously and instead they were just a joke gift to get people... god i h8 people who dont understand anything about anything

 

[LittleChone]

This is the male equivalent of drawing penises on toilet stalls: no one will like you for it, and you'll just be making a mock of your own sex gender.

Also AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????

 

[major28]

Sound off kids, I'm curious about opinions. Gender, age, status and if you would give me some whys.

EDIT: Just to add, surely there are far better symbols of feminism than the vagina. Items commemorating suffrage and the struggles for equal rights. I can't help but feel those women would view this kind of thing with contempt rather than think they were a sign of progress.

2nd EDIT: Why do so many people view polls be never bother participating? That seems like such a waste.

I don't see the big deal. Penis-shaped and boob-shaped just-about-everythings have been available from sex shops for decades. I don't see how this is any different. Calling it "feminism" is a bit of a stretch but I suppose it is a celebration of femininity and the feminine reproductive organs, and thus you could extrapolate feminism from that somehow I suppose. If nothing else it's certainly pushing a boundary - let's face it, if it were penises nobody would care, but because it's vaginas, a thread like this gets made. Vaginas obviously hit a nerve with some people, as does feminism. Vaginas may not be the best symbol of feminism but it's a pretty good symbol of femininity, given their function(s), and celebrating femininity is something that a lot of feminists are naturally interested in. Feminism isn't all about playing hardball politics, marching with picket signs and teaching self-defense.

I didn't participate in your poll because it's not a very good poll. The options you've give are mostly not mutually exclusive, overlap considerably, and make little sense relative to the question. 1, 2 and 3 are basically the same response. 4 is ambiguous. 5 and 6 have nothing to do with the other responses. 7 and 8 are not even relevant to what you asked. A bit much for a question that is closed and thus only demands a simple response.

I do know some people who would love the site though.

are you kidding me if some guy had a watch with just a penis on it you would just be like "nice watch dude can i see it' no you would be more like "really are you 5?"

 

[alittlepepper]

Edit: @redlin5 There sorta already is. Just google "truck nuts". I've actually seen them on the hitches for vehicles of all stripes and think they're really inappropriate.

OT: I wouldn't call it feminist. But it's certainly not appropriate; I wouldn't buy or wear any of that stuff, and I don't know anyone that would. Some stuff should stay in the bedroom.

 

[BonsaiK]

Sound off kids, I'm curious about opinions. Gender, age, status and if you would give me some whys.

EDIT: Just to add, surely there are far better symbols of feminism than the vagina. Items commemorating suffrage and the struggles for equal rights. I can't help but feel those women would view this kind of thing with contempt rather than think they were a sign of progress.

2nd EDIT: Why do so many people view polls be never bother participating? That seems like such a waste.

I don't see the big deal. Penis-shaped and boob-shaped just-about-everythings have been available from sex shops for decades. I don't see how this is any different. Calling it "feminism" is a bit of a stretch but I suppose it is a celebration of femininity and the feminine reproductive organs, and thus you could extrapolate feminism from that somehow I suppose. If nothing else it's certainly pushing a boundary - let's face it, if it were penises nobody would care, but because it's vaginas, a thread like this gets made. Vaginas obviously hit a nerve with some people, as does feminism. Vaginas may not be the best symbol of feminism but it's a pretty good symbol of femininity, given their function(s), and celebrating femininity is something that a lot of feminists are naturally interested in. Feminism isn't all about playing hardball politics, marching with picket signs and teaching self-defense.

I didn't participate in your poll because it's not a very good poll. The options you've give are mostly not mutually exclusive, overlap considerably, and make little sense relative to the question. 1, 2 and 3 are basically the same response. 4 is ambiguous. 5 and 6 have nothing to do with the other responses. 7 and 8 are not even relevant to what you asked. A bit much for a question that is closed and thus only demands a simple response.

I do know some people who would love the site though.

are you kidding me if some guy had a watch with just a penis on it you would just be like "nice watch dude can i see it' no you would be more like "really are you 5?"

Obviously you wouldn't pull out such a watch in a boardroom meeting, but you might at a bucks night for a laugh. Everything has its place, and sexual jokes are not a crime (yet).

 

[BackwardsO]

Actually, I can see where people are coming from wearing these... and let's just say it's not a very happy place. I (as a girl) would never wear these, even though they are tasteful for the most part, but to a women who has experienced low self esteem or were at one point disgusted with themselves might buy it as a reminder not to sell themselves short.

I know this won't make sense to a lot of you guys, but as someone who has known people with those kinds of experiences, I can be sympathetic.

 

[Marble Dragon]

Okay, there was something on that page that scared me a lot more than the vaginas: reusable cloth menstrual pads. Just...well, I guess it makes sense, but still.

I wouldn't buy one. I'm a girl, and that's pretty obvious, so why would I need an extra vagina around my neck? But hey, to each their own. If you want to wear a cock, or boobs, or a vagina around your neck, hey, it's just as natural as a tree or a butterfly. (Pendants don't have to be natural, of course - I'm wearing a USB plug around my neck.)

Showing off a vagina or a penis can and will negatively affect people.

I guess my ultimate point is that no, they won't. There's nothing bad about penises and/or vaginas, and the reason you think that there is something bad is part of the reason that people wear that jewelery. You've been conditioned to think that way, and depicting female genitals in jewelery is a very tasteful way of asserting the belief that people should embrace it as a positive symbol, rather than an icon of shame. I think you'd also find that acceptance of this type of jewelery will vary greatly from culture to culture, because all societies don't necessarily attach the same negative stigmas to those symbols.

Okay, I was going to say something, but then I read this post and found that it's already been said. I believe that wearing a vagina pendant is to tell people that vaginas are not bad. It's not a shameful thing. There are women who feel that way about themselves, all around the world, and that's what this type of feminism is trying to stamp out. I have friends, boy and girl alike, who yell at me for saying the word 'period.' What the hell is wrong with periods? Sure, they kind of suck, but they're natural. (Although I hope nobody comes out with a period pendant or anything. Culture has influenced me, too.)

I will admit freely that I love the happy tampon pouch. It's friggin adorable, okay?

 

[Jaythulhu]

My gawd, can someone please pass the brainbleach?

 

[Narclaw]

Well...I'm almost at a loss for words. I don't quite believe it, yet I can't say I'm surprised. We certainly live in a world without boundaries, people.

 

[Julianking93]

I like vagina and all, but why the hell would I want a necklace of one? That's just....odd.

 

[Fingolfin High-King of the Noldor]

VAGINA MERCHANDISE! Huh...

Weird shit I've got to say. But I hope to never see it in person

 

[manythings]

Yes, those are Vaginas, good work.
Now do yourself and the World a favor and GO GET LAID!!! ...instead of scouring the Internet for new Fetish Porn >
[/hypocrisy]

Know what is the my favourite thing about your message? My girlfriend gave me the link...

Bwahaha... ow, my thighs! That was so funny it hurt.
But seriously, do you think she was trying to Imply something there? Or was she just randomly stalking your Blogs and sending you links to the Replies you get.
If it's the first, then maybe you're not giving her enough attention. Perhaps you could make it up to her by seeing Titanic together or something.
If it's the latter, then I would recommend seeing a couples-councilor; and if that doesn't work, burn all Bridges and issue a restraining-order!

J/K ...I know for a fact that the probability of you having a hot Girlfriend that's also acting as your personal Forum-Guardian is as statistically Improbable as you making a good come-back response in your next Quote =P

Yes... good work there... You sure showed me... apparently...

 

[RJ Dalton]

Might be a little off topic, but I'm not entirely sure how Whedon writing strong, deep (*coughbullshitcough*) and not overly sexualized female characters equates to feminist exploitation. Whedon actually tends to be quite popular with the feminist crowd because it doesn't seem like a shallow attempt at cashing in with an audience.

The point I was aiming at was that Joss Whedon's female characters may be "strong women" but there's nothing more to it beyond that. All his female characters are shallow ass-kickers, essentially taking the role usually given to the man and putting a woman in it; it wasn't interesting or deep when it was Conan the Barbarian, it isn't either of those in any of Whedon's work. The characters are more or less exactly the same when you get right down to it. They react the same to every situation, they have the same basic personality, etc. Whedon has no grasp of the basic elements of characterization.
Whedon's a bad example though because it's not really exploitation. Whedon probably genuinely considers himself a feminist writer. He's just terrible writing characters.

Yeah, this is a little off-topic, but I expect the thread to be locked sooner or later, so I don't care.

 

[Impluse_101]

I think the feminist tag is more of a cheap attempt to grab customers.

this guy got it right
I am a feminist (not some batshit insane "fuck all men") that would be pretty stupid, as I'm a guy.
But seriously, it's these fuckfaces that are giving feminism a bad name
Feminism means simplyfied: no differences between male and female.
which i believe in!
People who go around saying "It is not right to punch a girl"... You know those people right? Well FUCK THEM if I were ever to hurt someone physically seriously, it would not matter if they were a girl or a guy, if they deserve it, they fucking get it.
I also hate those guys protecting women! Whenever i see that, I can't stop thinking that these guys have this idea that women are weak little people who cannot stand up for themselves
and that is true many of the times, not because they are women, but because this is what they are taught.
It
fucking
pisses
me
off!
Let the women stand up for themselves!
do NOT teach them that they are little insignificant people who are made to be protected and please men!

please go ragewar on me

*Gives you seal of approval* Couldn't have said it any better then m'self.

 

[Slenn]

Ya' know it was kinda funny how the nerdy people made plushies of different bacteria and viruses, but a uterus plushy? I dunno... that's taking a few liberties a bit too far.

 

[manythings]

Your poll is strange.

As for me, yeah... That looks quite odd. I don't know why a guy would wear a penis necklace or shoes, and frankly those look goofy.

But if people like them, IDK... Maybe this is a new trend of vagina jewelry.

My polls are usually strange but I would like to think they are never bland.

 

[Neferius]

Yes... good work there... You sure showed me... apparently...

*smug* See? I told you so! ^.^
j/k

 

[AgentNein]

Might be a little off topic, but I'm not entirely sure how Whedon writing strong, deep (*coughbullshitcough*) and not overly sexualized female characters equates to feminist exploitation. Whedon actually tends to be quite popular with the feminist crowd because it doesn't seem like a shallow attempt at cashing in with an audience.

The point I was aiming at was that Joss Whedon's female characters may be "strong women" but there's nothing more to it beyond that. All his female characters are shallow ass-kickers, essentially taking the role usually given to the man and putting a woman in it; it wasn't interesting or deep when it was Conan the Barbarian, it isn't either of those in any of Whedon's work. The characters are more or less exactly the same when you get right down to it. They react the same to every situation, they have the same basic personality, etc. Whedon has no grasp of the basic elements of characterization.
Whedon's a bad example though because it's not really exploitation. Whedon probably genuinely considers himself a feminist writer. He's just terrible writing characters.

Yeah, this is a little off-topic, but I expect the thread to be locked sooner or later, so I don't care.

Alright, to each their own I guess. I will say however that I'm very sensitive to the 'girls with guns' archetype, and I never took Whedon's heroines as shallow male-badass analogues. Take Buffy for instance, a big part of the show was (to me anyway) the subversion of that typical 'badass loner' stereotype.

With that said, Whedon's not perfect. I think he strives for something and never quite reaches it, and falls into some of the same storytelling traps that I've seen countless writer/directors fall in in a male dominated/male-centric medium. Just not nearly as many as others out there.