Poll: Is Valve becoming worse over time?

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Delusibeta

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
So, about that PS3 hate...
Yeah, scratch that off the List of Reasons to Hate Valve. Although some on the Steam forums have decided that it means that Valve prefers Macs and PS3s over PCs Windows, which says enough about the state of the Steam forums.
 

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Demented Teddy said:
..........What exactly is wrong with the L4D series?
Aparently the 2 one was dissapointing. I wouldnt know as I only played the demo, but it would appear the fans would rather have Half Life than another Left four dead game.
 
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Delusibeta said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
So, about that PS3 hate...
Yeah, scratch that off the List of Reasons to Hate Valve. Although some on the Steam forums have decided that it means that Valve prefers Macs and PS3s over PCs Windows, which says enough about the state of the Steam forums.
There's a reason they're called the Steam forums, they're full of tears and hot air.
 

godofallu

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humor_involuntario said:
To the point with
godofallu said:
Lets see here.

Past work by Valve- Half life saga, half life 2 saga, portal, TF2.

Recent work- L4d1 followed by L4D2 instantly.

Half life episode 3 is taking one hell of a long time, and yet they can crank out L4D2 in ONE YEAR?! But episode means 1/3 of a gme, and L4D2 is a totally new game (lol).

Valve is the new EA imo.
actualy the only reason for they taking so short is that L4D2 is just L4D with mele and new maps, it even reuses the source engine, just with a modification to calculate mele damage! while (i hope) half-life episode 3 will use source 2.0. waaaay more work.
Hence the "lol" at L4D2 being a new game. Which Valve of course insists that it needed to be.
 

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TheNumber1Zero said:
pyrosaw said:
But as I said in my starting paragraph, they are many things things to there name that isn't finished.
All you mention is Episode 3 and an Update for TF2 for Consoles (Something they already explained the reasoning to why they can't do [Ask someone else for a Link if you need to read it for yourself, I don't have one]).

Please name these "Many" things to do, because 2 is not all that "Many".

Oh, and I disagree on the quality drop, although I haven't really played too many Valve games (Only L4D and L4D2 as far as I know)
And yet they said they could deliver a TF2 update for two years. The only explanation I heard of was memory limits, and they explained they found a way to fix it. So, if someone could enlighten me, or if it was mentioned in this thread and I skipped over it, please enlighten me.
 

HigherTomorrow

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Doesn't the fact that you're getting so worked up about it mean they are obviously going strong and you wish for them not to decline?
 

Pyro Paul

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godofallu said:
humor_involuntario said:
To the point with
godofallu said:
Lets see here.

Past work by Valve- Half life saga, half life 2 saga, portal, TF2.

Recent work- L4d1 followed by L4D2 instantly.

Half life episode 3 is taking one hell of a long time, and yet they can crank out L4D2 in ONE YEAR?! But episode means 1/3 of a gme, and L4D2 is a totally new game (lol).

Valve is the new EA imo.
actualy the only reason for they taking so short is that L4D2 is just L4D with mele and new maps, it even reuses the source engine, just with a modification to calculate mele damage! while (i hope) half-life episode 3 will use source 2.0. waaaay more work.
Hence the "lol" at L4D2 being a new game. Which Valve of course insists that it needed to be.
L4d2 IS a new game... it has to be when you consider the amount of suck in it. you see, L4D2 was made specifically for the twitchy, foaming at the mouth, run and gun Call of duty players that need fast action, lots of partical effects and a buggy game in order to play.

i mean, even the release schedule for L4D2 and CoD are the same, almost 1 year after its previous release.

i, for one, am glad that L4D2 isn't an expansion to L4D... don't taint my precious and perfect L4D experience with the broken buggy game that is L4D2!!
 

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I do think about what it is that they could do next that would be successful. They have such different new ip's that with every release it's hard to think about what's next.They have new games so often they have half life, then team fortress, then portal, then then left 4 dead, theen the follow ups for all. So there is always the uncertainty.
 

Kragg

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if i took all the people that work or ever worked at valve, all their friends, relatives and neighbours and lined them up and bludgeoned them to death with a pool cue, would anyone really give a damn (from a gaming perspective)? no, you would just play something else
 

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The only game I like from Valve is TF2. And all the Valve games I've played..I hated. They sucked and will continue to be crappy...At least to me.
 

Theron Julius

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What? What's wrong with Portal 2? Or perhaps more accurately why is Half life 2: Episode 3 more imaginative than Portal 2?

Ninjamedic said:
Demented Teddy said:
Ninjamedic said:
Gabe Fucking Newell. Enough said.

Demented Teddy said:
..........What exactly is wrong with the L4D series?
The fact that they've made a sequel in the gap of a year and that they haven't done anything else.
I looooooooooooooooooooooove L4D so swdihfe to you!
I am on PS3. Do not mock me.
Don't worry, my friend. You're not alone.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ninjamedic said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Ninjamedic said:
Gabe Fucking Newell. Enough said.
Not really, why's Gabe such a bad guy?
His Resistance and reasoning in boycotting the PS3 has been nothing but fanboyish.
But possibly less fanboyish than Micro$oft, Nintendo and Sony (amongst others) not wanting to cater for the PC market at all?

According to them, Gabe's trying to resuscitate a dying market. And even Sony have said that the PS3 is devilishly difficult to program for. Perhaps he may have a point?

Any offers on when Nintendo/Sony/Bungie etc. are going to produce their games for the Mac?
This man....has one hell of point here folks.

That's why I can't, in all honestly, see where anyone thinks Valve is "degrading" in quality. Let alone, I really can't fathom the whole, "They're not doing anything anymore!" mentality. They're completely redesigned Steam. They've ported a plethora of games to the Mac OS. They still update TF2. They're still making a DLC and, last I heard, graphic novel for L4D1. They finished a HUGE update to Counter-Strike: Source, they're currently developing Portal 2 for four, completely different systems. And, finally, they're still working on Ep3 in some form or other (and possibly another, undisclosed project).

Yeah, they're DEFINITELY sitting around on their asses milking the Left 4 Dead teet.

So...how about everyone shuts the hell up, go play something else (there ARE a lot of other games out there folks. try to find one), and wait patiently to bask in the glory that is Episode 3 and Portal 2.

....when they're finally released, that is. ;)

Keep in mind too, that we're talking about a company comprised of a total of 250 employees. That includes ALL departments. That's fewer employees than some developers have in just their design staff.