Poll: It's really time to stop supporting Blizzard

[AndyFromMonday]

Blizzard is no longer the Blizzard we knew a few years back. It's now Activision Blizzard and it's being run by Bobby Kotick. As evidenced by StarCraft 2, it's obvious the Activision part of Blizzard poked their noses where they shouldn't have. I was extremely saddened when Blizzard merged with Activision. I was even more saddened when I saw what this did to World of Warcraft. I've lost all hope when I saw what it did to StarCraft 2.

 

[bob1052]

.....right.....

People using 3rd party programs to change game mechanics.

good luck convincing 15million people.

Let me know when you've got 3.

about eighty-3 have said yes.

How legitimate do you expect this poll to be when people out of spite or disregard for Blizzard, or who wouldn't buy a game from Blizzard regardless of this issue will pick boycott. If you want a real survey that you can quote try asking people with Battle.net accounts with recent games to take a poll and disallow anyone else.

 

[bob1052]

Blizzard should have separated single and multiplayer achievements but they didn't so really, they created this situation.

It's their fault you decided to cheat? It's their fault that you'd still be cheating to get achievements which no company is okay with you doing?

I don't even like blizzard, they're under Activision and there's no company I want restructured more than them and I'm totally with them on this.

You hit "I agree" to the EULA, you break it, you fall in their rules. Stop trying to shift the blame, blizzard or activsion didn't make you cheat, ya chose to. Ya get to buy the game again, this time don't cheat and all will be fan-dabby-tastic.

I didn't buy the game, I didn't cheat but I do think they are overstepping. The EULA is worthless except to people like you who give it it's power.

Stopping throwing it up there as if we should all bow before it. Stop pretending there isn't a scam in regards to agreeing to a contract you can't read until you open the product and then can't return it.

I know you didn't buy it, but you're defending people using cheats. Does the EULA suck? Yes in a lot of ways it does, but you bought the game, and when you open it, it tells you what not to do to keep your account.

Am I defending it? No I'm telling you why their in their right to ban anyone who cheats. I hate DRM and the EULA but the EULA at least TELLS YOU what you can do to keep your game instead of DRM which lies cheats its customers and supports the pirates.

I support single player cheating. If I want to pull out my Action Replay for a DS Game, I don't think anyone should stand in my way. I do not support multiplayer cheating but Blizzard stacked the cards here to ensure that even single player was tied into multiplayer.

Speaking of pirates, guess who isn't dealing with this BS?

Blizzard isn't the only one who doesn't like pirates. You may want to check the post on Escapist about the 3DS firmware updates that you get automatically from WiFi or from being near an updated 3DS without your permission.

It seems as if cheating and pirating isn't desired by more than just Blizzard, fancy that.

 

[Thunderhorse31]

I don't exactly play any Blizzard games to begin with. I guess you could say that YOU are now joining ME.

 

[jobobob]

These guys are doing what they're paid to do, LETS BOYCOT THEM!

 

[The Madman]

I thought hate on Blizzard week was last month before Starcraft 2 was released. Man, I am so behind these gaming fads.

Let me know when it's hate on Valve week, those are always fun. Or maybe hate on Epic week, when I can wane all nostalgic about the 'good ol' days'. That's always entertaining! Hate on Blizzard week has never really been my thing unfortunately.

 

[Snotnarok]

Blizzard should have separated single and multiplayer achievements but they didn't so really, they created this situation.

It's their fault you decided to cheat? It's their fault that you'd still be cheating to get achievements which no company is okay with you doing?

I don't even like blizzard, they're under Activision and there's no company I want restructured more than them and I'm totally with them on this.

You hit "I agree" to the EULA, you break it, you fall in their rules. Stop trying to shift the blame, blizzard or activsion didn't make you cheat, ya chose to. Ya get to buy the game again, this time don't cheat and all will be fan-dabby-tastic.

I didn't buy the game, I didn't cheat but I do think they are overstepping. The EULA is worthless except to people like you who give it it's power.

Stopping throwing it up there as if we should all bow before it. Stop pretending there isn't a scam in regards to agreeing to a contract you can't read until you open the product and then can't return it.

I know you didn't buy it, but you're defending people using cheats. Does the EULA suck? Yes in a lot of ways it does, but you bought the game, and when you open it, it tells you what not to do to keep your account.

Am I defending it? No I'm telling you why their in their right to ban anyone who cheats. I hate DRM and the EULA but the EULA at least TELLS YOU what you can do to keep your game instead of DRM which lies cheats its customers and supports the pirates.

I support single player cheating. If I want to pull out my Action Replay for a DS Game, I don't think anyone should stand in my way. I do not support multiplayer cheating but Blizzard stacked the cards here to ensure that even single player was tied into multiplayer.

Speaking of pirates, guess who isn't dealing with this BS?

Here's the difference...When you cheat on your DS, you cheat for yourself and no one is effected, when you cheat in single player on Starcraft 2 with 3rd party cheats you're unlocking achievements that other people earn.

So yes it's still effecting other people because you didn't earn those things, but it says you do on your profile unlocking things they wanted you to earn.

 

[Lightslei]

More of this?


Stop cheating, grow up, and learn to play fair. This was gone over in the other thread far too well.

 

[bob1052]

Just out of curiosity I grabbed my box of Starcraft 2

The use of this software product is subject to the terms of an End User License Agreement
available at http://www.starcraft2.com/legal/eula.html ...

More proof that the argument that you open the box before you see the EULA is completely wrong.

Is it in fine print? Yes. Did you really expect anything different from any company? Not if you have half a brain.

Quoting this as it seems the one person who needs to read this seems to selectively skipped over it, convenient.

 

[Xan Krieger]

How about they just remove the achievments so people can play the game the way they want? I bought Starcraft 2 three days after it came out and beat it fairly about 2 days later. If I want to cheat on the singleplayer part I should be able to, it's not gonna harm anyone. Hell, find a way to disable earning achievements if a person cheats, that'll fix the problem.

 

[Jadak]

I really think they should rather just focus on making it so the moment a player cheats in a game, that match simply no longer counts towards profile stats and such.

But honestly, I don't cheat, so I don't care.

 

[Kris015]

Hells no, I've loved Blizzard since the first day I played Diablo II (Never played WoW though). And this little thing? Couldn't care less dude, sorry.

 

[Halvhir]

Dear fukking lord, I couldn't even make it to the end of this.

In SC2, when you're playing the basic game it AFFECTS YOUR ONLINE PROFILE. It keeps tracks of achievements and crap along those lines, so when you cheat to get those, you basically ARE affecting the multiplayer aspect. In a stupid, minimal way, sure, but you can't separate the two, it's all connected to battle.net.

You cheat, you're cheating on battle.net, and you're going to fukking get caught. Make the choice and live with it.

 

[bob1052]

How about they just remove the achievments so people can play the game the way they want? I bought Starcraft 2 three days after it came out and beat it fairly about 2 days later. If I want to cheat on the singleplayer part I should be able to, it's not gonna harm anyone. Hell, find a way to disable earning achievements if a person cheats, that'll fix the problem.

They already disable achievements if you cheat. The issue is that they can only control the cheats they create, or catch. And catching every cheat out there is a waste of their resources (and vespene gas). They allow cheats, the only reason someone would use third party instead of the allowed cheats is to bypass the achievement disable, which is evident in the fact that they complain even though they never lost the ability to play offline.

 

[NickCaligo42]

Eh?

Seems more like an honest mistake than an intentional thing to me. Sounds like they just never made the distinction of single-player cheats versus multiplayer cheats. Still, also a really stupid thing to boycott Blizzard for, of all the things you could pick. I mean, holy crap, trainers? I haven't touched one of those things since the original Diablo in the 1990's. I didn't know anybody still bothered making that junk. I just assumed people had grown up since then and didn't feel the need to cheat. Also, the game HAS cheat codes.

EDIT: Oh, achievements. That explains it.