Poll: It's really time to stop supporting Blizzard

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AndyFromMonday

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Sir John the Net Knight said:
It's understandable that one might question whether the punishment fits the crime. Ultimately, it's Blizzard's decision. You can question it, but you're unlikely to make them change their minds. I support Blizzard on this, because third-party hacks should not come anywhere near a multiplayer game. SCII is multiplayer at heart. No one cares if you mod a single player game, because it ultimately has no effect on other players.
Exactly. And if no one cares then you shouldn't be banned for doing so.
Except that they do care because SCII is largely multiplayer. Or did you skim over that part?
Yet there is a single player portion in that game, is there not?
 

Exort

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Garak73 said:
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Garak73 said:
Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?
Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.
Well, I guess we see where the entire game industry is going and all any company has to do is have a leaderboard for single player to be justified in completely controlling your single player experience. No need to have the single player actually affect multiplayer games.
So just how is it contruling you? They always support mod for their games. I just can't link someone getting banned for hacking acheivement with contrul how player play.
 

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Wow, lot of posts....but yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and say "Make me, bitches." I still love Blizzard, and will as long as they continue to make good games. They banned people who hacked their game, and people are defending the hackers....why? Yes, they only hacked the SP, but the fact that they hacked Blizzard's game still gives them the right to punish as they see fit. What's to stop these people from hacking the MP? I'm all for discouraging hacking of all types, and screwing with the business of that site that sells the trainers just makes it even better.

And you know all you guys are gonna forget the "stop supporting Blizzard" crap the second Diablo 3 gets a release date.

Oh, and to everyone calling Starcraft 2 "1/3rd of a game"...
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T-Bone24

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Garak73 said:
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Why do gamers have such a misplaced sense of entitlement? For Christ's sake, they don't want people cheating their game, I don't care if it's single player or not, get over yourselves.
Gamers come to the defense of greedy game companies more often than they should. Doing what you want with a product you purchased, so long as it hurts no one else, is not a sense of entitlement.
I'm not coming to the defense of a greedy company, I'm taking a stand against what I believe to be a pointless overreaction. You can boycott whatever you like, but I can guarantee that it won't send a message.
 

FalloutJack

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The thing is, I already bought Starcraft 2, so they have my money already. If it helps, I actually don't like WoW-crack, so I've technically been a boycotter longer than you guys? Kinda?
 

Exort

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Garak73 said:
Exort said:
Garak73 said:
Exort said:
Garak73 said:
Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?
Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.
Well, I guess we see where the entire game industry is going and all any company has to do is have a leaderboard for single player to be justified in completely controlling your single player experience. No need to have the single player actually affect multiplayer games.
So just how is it contruling you? They always support mod for their games. I just can't link someone getting banned for hacking acheivement with contrul how player play.
They are controlling how you play a game, that you purchased, in single player mode. They may support mods but if they say a particular mod is unacceptable, they might ban you for using it and this attitude won't just stay with Blizzard. They purposely designed the game in a way that single player ties in with multiplayer so they could push their DRM even further into your gaming experience. Next game may not even have an offline mode.

Even if you support Blizzard here, would you support other companies doing the same thing?
Yes definely, I support any company that banned people getting achievement through unfair ways, achievement should be a test to skill and that means people can't cheat for them.
The only mods are unacceptable are cheats or ones with censered content (yes, that kind of content).
 

shintakie10

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Garak73 said:
Exort said:
Garak73 said:
Exort said:
Garak73 said:
Yeah cause when I used my Gameshark to completely fill in the license board, at the beginning of the game, on FF 12 SE should have taken my game away from me for 14 days. Right?
Yes, if FF12 have online achievement, with build in cheat code.
Well, I guess we see where the entire game industry is going and all any company has to do is have a leaderboard for single player to be justified in completely controlling your single player experience. No need to have the single player actually affect multiplayer games.
So just how is it contruling you? They always support mod for their games. I just can't link someone getting banned for hacking acheivement with contrul how player play.
They are controlling how you play a game, that you purchased, in single player mode. They may support mods but if they say a particular mod is unacceptable, they might ban you for using it and this attitude won't just stay with Blizzard. They purposely designed the game in a way that single player ties in with multiplayer so they could push their DRM even further into your gaming experience. Next game may not even have an offline mode.

Even if you support Blizzard here, would you support other companies doing the same thing?
They arent controllin how you play in single player. You can use any trainer you want, any cheat code you want, any mod, crack, and hack you want in single player at any time as long as you arent signed in with your bnet account. Click sign in as guest and you can break the single player as much as you want and Blizzard will not suspend or ban you. The moment you sign in with your bnet account though you put yourself into the multiplayer aspect of the game even if you arent facin other people in the game.

Fact of the matter is, as has been said so many times in this thread, people were breakin the rules, they got slapped for it, end of story.
 

Exort

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Garak73 said:
Which is fine but what I said is still true. Alot of people come to the defense of game companies for things they would condemn other companies for. For example, look how many people think that game companies are getting ripped off by used sales but see no problem with used sales in other industries.

The sense of entitlement isn't with gamers.
This few year isn't great for game company, just see how much layoff there has been, For an average AAA console release they need around 1.1 million brand new sale to get back the cost that is not easy, and since when did they say they don't have a problem with other used product? Like news media and google, I definely can see why news media are complaining about.
 

dementis

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I think it's pretty out of order doing that, they're not hurting anyone by cheating on single player so just leave 'em alone.
 

AndyFromMonday

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Sir John the Net Knight said:
AndyFromMonday said:
Exactly. And if no one cares then you shouldn't be banned for doing so.
Except that they do care because SCII is largely multiplayer. Or did you skim over that part?
Yet there is a single player portion in that game, is there not?
Technically speaking, yes. But considering that the game is clearly grounded in the multiplayer aspects. I consider the campaign mode to be little more than an extensive tutorial.
Blizzard themselves stated that the Single Player is in no way a tutorial.
 

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dementis said:
I think it's pretty out of order doing that, they're not hurting anyone by cheating on single player so just leave 'em alone.
You can cheat all you want (the cheat codes are provided by the game developers) they just don't want you to use hacks.