AndyFromMonday said:
You failed to respond to all my questions. To quote myself: "Isn't the ability to do what you want with your game worth more than arbitrary achievements?"
Yes. However, in this case you can have your cake and eat it too. Don't want to play fair? Use cheat codes. Want to mod the game? Use the map editor which has every single tool Blizz uses to create the gameplay, just wrapped up in a tidy GUI. If you honestly feel that you still need to use a trianer after that, sign-in to a Guest account and play offline where you can't harm anyone else. I'm not sure why this isn't sinking in for you or the other warmongers that feel cheated because they cheated and are getting punished for it.
AndyFromMonday said:
By all means, add achievements. The moment they are used to limit the liberty I have with my game is the moment I will have a problem with the developer. You're basically telling me that I cannot enjoy my game the way I want to because you need some sort of gratification for killing that Brutalisk. You just admitted you are an attention whore. You want everyone to know you finished the campaign on hard and you want everyone to glare at your awesomeness. That's why you "want" achievements and through that you're forgetting that you're forcing others to conform. Gamers have been getting the same satisfaction you're getting for years without achievements. How come they have become so important now?
We do. That is besides the point, however. How is Blizzard limiting your ability to edit this game? Please, do tell. They gave every customer the entire set of tools they used to create the game to mod as they please, in a legal manner. They installed cheat codes so that those who just want an easy victory can achieve said means by typing in a phrase. Why do you need a trainer? Unless you can answer that question, your point is unsubstantiated because Blizzard has already given you the tools to do what you please with the entire game. If you can tell me one thing that the trainer gives that the cheat codes and the map editor combined cannot do, then you will have a fair argument, you won't look like you're grasping at straws and may possibly be the first person in here with a valid argument worth discussing.
AndyFromMonday said:
Achievements have been avoided in SP PC games for a reason. They are impossible to introduce correctly without the need to be constantly online. Are you seriously saying that for some small gratification you get we should all conform to the idea of having to be constantly online and having no liberties at all with our games?
Actually, PC games haven't had achievements because that concept is relatively new. This generation is the only generation to which gamer score has been given. However, achievement is no stranger to the gaming world. A game within itself is a test of achievement; to reach the end by surmounting progressively difficult scenarios. There have been easter eggs within games for years and those could be considered much like achievements, if only because you typically need to go out of your way to find them and achieve seeing them. Putting a tag of 50 points for doing so is a new concept, one where the community can quantify your success within a game. Is that not your cup of tea? Fine, all the power to you. Cheat all you like but do so so that people within the multiplayer community are not harmed. This means that a trainer, or rather signing into the online community while using one, is automatically out of the question. This is exactly what these people did and I have no remorse for them. If you care to argue this point, please find something justifiable instead of saying you should be able to play however you want. Again, what can a trainer do that the cheat codes and the map editor cannot?
AndyFromMonday said:
Yeah, as a guest. I am not a guest. I am the OWNER of that game. Even so, as a guest you can't mod the game files to your liking.
Now, I just
had to touch on this, because it is easily the most laughable argument you've put out there. Seriously, you honestly think that's a huge problem? You can mod as the guest account because the trainer activates on your current game and is not dependant on what account you're using. So, even if you wanted to use illegal software editing, you can go right ahead when you're completely offline. Then compound that with the fact that you say achievements are frivilous things and online identity doesn't matter to you because you only play Campaign, Skirmish and Challenge, it just smacks of hypocricy when you spout garbage like that. What does it matter if you sign-in under Guest1 if you don't care about the online community. Are you somehow missing single-player content because of this? No! Can you mod to your heart's content? Yes! Whether that's right or not is up to the individual.
