Poll: It's time for a ridiculous hypothetical! (Violence alert. Read at your own discretion)

[AtheistGuy]

So let's say there's this guy. He's been in a relationship for three years and is getting married. Everything was good in this relationship. They didn't have any huge problems, everyone was happy, they were a happy couple. He waited three hours at the altar until he finally came to accept that he was abandoned at the altar by his fiancé. He later finds out said fiancé was: cheating on him for a year and a half, using him to get at his money, and had gotten married that very day to the other person because he was richer.

Now rather than do anything extreme he'd rather take her and the other guy to a TV show (Let's say Steve Wilkos' show). They all show up , the show starts and she pretty much says what he's already heard, then the other guy comes in and says (insert string of insults here). So far so good. He's relatively calm and collected until she joins in and essentially tells him it's all his fault for being poor, never paying attention to her and never buying her things. Upon hearing this he punches her to the ground and stomps on her a couple times before anyone has time to react. By the time he stops and realizes what he'd just done on television he backs away and sits down.

Now, after reading that badly written story, do you think his actions were justified? Why is he? Why isn't he? And for those that like thinking about legal stuff. Is there any way he can get an acquittal or a diminished sentence?

 

[Jolly Co-operator]

I wouldn't say his actions were justified. Understandably motivated, yes, but I don't think violence to such a degree would be justified in this situation. On a side note, this hypothetical lady sounds like a hypothetical *****

 

[Phlakes]

Violence is never justified outside of self defense. At least 99% of the time, this included.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

I wouldn't say his actions were justified. Understandably motivated, yes, but I don't think violence to such a degree would be justified in this situation. On a side note, this hypothetical lady sounds like a hypothetical *****

Exactly this.

There's no way (at least in my chauvinist stupid male opinion) to justify beating the total crap out of a woman who hasn't attacked you with violence.

Understandable, yes. But I can't get behind him.

 

[EmperorSubcutaneous]

I wouldn't say his actions were justified. Understandably motivated, yes, but I don't think violence to such a degree would be justified in this situation. On a side note, this hypothetical lady sounds like a hypothetical *****

Exactly this.

There's no way (at least in my chauvinist stupid male opinion) to justify beating the total crap out of a woman who hasn't attacked you with violence.

Understandable, yes. But I can't get behind him.

Not even a woman: you shouldn't beat up someone who's physically weaker than you, because it makes you an asshole. No matter what non-assault-related thing they did to provoke it. And in this hypothetical scenario, she's very likely to be the physically weaker party.

Even if she is stronger than him, though, you don't start a fist-fight with someone who's stronger than you, because it makes you an idiot who will soon be in a world of pain. And you don't start a fight with someone who's your physical equal because how can you be exactly sure if--Yeah, you know what, just don't hit people unless you're seriously defending yourself. (Even then, better to escape than try to beat them up.)

 

[Blobpie]

No, in this case his actions were not justified.

 

[Zelcor]

Yes because that's a year and a half she stole from him and enough mental damage he's going to have to go through would make him suffer for at lease 2 more years.

And women or men it doesn't matter what she did others would kill for as far as I'm concerned he probably held back

 

[Monkeyman O'Brien]

100% justified. I would respect him for doing it. Truth is, some people deserve a beating. She is one of them.
Those who say no because its a woman are sexist relics.

 

[applesandoranges]

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[NiPah]

I would say it's his own fault, if she was that good at hiding her true intentions then she is just better then him. You don't get angry at someone for screwing you, you learn how they did it so you don't get screwed again. Punching and kicking her lead to a few weeks of pain coupled with what is most likely a massive court settlement, that guy will be paying her for years to come for his own actions.

Are his actions justified? of course not, screwing someone over then insulting them isn't justification for physical violence.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

No, because ayone who feels the need to publically sort out there own problems in the first place should be shot... They should be first up for the culling!!

EDIT: Oops, was being flippant and forgot to mention that it was sarcasm!

My only experience of people who use chat shows for problems are the ones on Jeremy Kyle... and any Brits here will understand what I mean about the cull!

Although I do stand by what I said, personal problems like that should be kept in private and sorted out privately, or with a proffessional, rather than on the telly!

Although to look at the actual issue I guess I would say that there is no excuse to hit anyone, no matter what they have done, unless in self defence. I would feel sorry for the guy, yes, noone needs that trauma, but he should be prepared and have self control not to lash out!

 

[Tanakh]

The punch? Maybe, you can make a good case for it.

Stomping on the ground? No way, a good laywer would get that moron for attempted murder, with excellent reasons, stomping on the ground can kill a guy with ease if you know what you are doing, and with bad luck if you do not. There is also legal precendents, so... no, pretty stupid of him.

 

[BlackStar42]

You can't justify violence unless it's to protect yourself or somebody else. I can sympathise with the bloke, and understand why he did it, but it doesn't make it right.

 

[lionrwal]

I don't think being that violent was really justified, maybe a slap because no one should talk to anyone like that.

Or just call her out on everything she did and letting her descend into humiliation and public exile. Either one.

 

[WanderingFool]

From a particular POV, his actions were justified. From any relativly normal person's POV, no.

 

[RaffB]

Excluding self-defence, or defence of others, Violence is never justified.....NEVER

Doesn't matter if they are man, women, stronger, weaker, good, evil , anything...

If you have to resort to physically harming someone in order to prove your point or express what you feel, then you are no longer human, and should be treated thusly.

 

[Duskflamer]

Understandable? Yes. Justified? Hell no. Yes heartbreak hurts, yes there should have been some sort of court action, but that doesn't justify beating up on someone like that, they way you describe it she could very well be seriously injured.

Though honestly, I find it odd that he goes from calm and collected to HULK SMASH just because of some insults from her. The first part of the story feels tinted in favor of the guy.

 

[AtheistGuy]

Understandable? Yes. Justified? Hell no. Yes heartbreak hurts, yes there should have been some sort of court action, but that doesn't justify beating up on someone like that, they way you describe it she could very well be seriously injured.

Though honestly, I find it odd that he goes from calm and collected to HULK SMASH just because of some insults from her. The first part of the story feels tinted in favor of the guy.

Maybe being told it was all his fault was the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak?