Poll: It's time for a ridiculous hypothetical! (Violence alert. Read at your own discretion)

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viranimus

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The way I see it, and this is what I passed on to future generations.

Sometimes... some women do things that if they were men they would get their asses handed to them. Some times they do things that are like begging to be beaten. Some times they absolutely 100% without a doubt deserve to be beaten like a rented mule.

However its your job as a man to make absolutely certain you never once lay a hand on them out of anger. It does not matter if they are doing everything in their power to goad you into it. It does not matter if shes right or wrong. Hell, it does not even matter if they get you shot. You simply do not do it.........

This is an ideology I had somewhat forgotten over the course of the last year and a half that had me welling up hatred and resentment. This thread reminded me of this fact, and I think because of it I finally have let go of all the vile and venom I had built up for the manipulative self centered skank whore who got me shot twice and and was the root cause of someone trying to take my life. Wow.. a thread on the escapist helped me in my real life. Whoduthunkit
 

FalloutJack

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Cheating girlfriends haven't got a leg to stand on, trying to criticize such a person because of him being 'too poor' or any of that other stuff. If I understand things correctly, this is a case of decent bloke getting the shaft and taking out a bit of his frustration on the target, who could and may very well be lying through her teeth or just saying it to say it. I'm going to go with justified. Marriage is a serious situation. You do not fuck with that shit.
 

MeChaNiZ3D

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No, but I hope she dies a terrible death.

Elaboration: I only say no because you say he stomped on her, and that's really f***ing serious. If he'd just punched her in the face that would've been ok.
 

Simskiller

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AtheistGuy said:
So let's say there's this guy. He's been in a relationship for three years and is getting married. Everything was good in this relationship. They didn't have any huge problems, everyone was happy, they were a happy couple. He waited three hours at the altar until he finally came to accept that he was abandoned at the altar by his fiancé. He later finds out said fiancé was: cheating on him for a year and a half, using him to get at his money, and had gotten married that very day to the other person because he was richer.

Now rather than do anything extreme he'd rather take her and the other guy to a TV show (Let's say Steve Wilkos' show). They all show up , the show starts and she pretty much says what he's already heard, then the other guy comes in and says (insert string of insults here). So far so good. He's relatively calm and collected until she joins in and essentially tells him it's all his fault for being poor, never paying attention to her and never buying her things. Upon hearing this he punches her to the ground and stomps on her a couple times before anyone has time to react. By the time he stops and realizes what he'd just done on television he backs away and sits down.

Now, after reading that badly written story, do you think his actions were justified? Why is he? Why isn't he? And for those that like thinking about legal stuff. Is there any way he can get an acquittal or a diminished sentence?
Not justified. It's called aggravated assault, it's not as bad as normal "assault" on the scale of crime but still assault.
 

Zen Toombs

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Not... justified per-say, but understandable. She was a monster.

I'm of the opinion that violence in non-self defense is not justified, but if there was ever a time that violence would be justified this would be it.
 

Ariyura

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I don;t believe violence against anyone is justified just because you get upset with the person be it man or woman. I'd have just as much of a problem with a woman hitting and beating a man.

Yes, she was hateful and spiteful and he's better off without her; but the moment he put his hands on her he was wrong.
 

BathorysGraveland

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I would like to think it's justified. Sometimes the only language that will get through to certain people is violence. Unfortunately, the guy would probably spend quite some time in prison. So by the actual laws, no it sadly wouldn't be justified.
 

AtheistGuy

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BathorysGraveland said:
I would like to think it's justified. Sometimes the only language that will get through to certain people is violence. Unfortunately, the guy would probably spend quite some time in prison. So by the actual laws, no it sadly wouldn't be justified.
It's a good thing I never brought the law into wether his actions were justified or not.
 

lettucethesallad

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No. Now I totally understand that he'd be pissed, but hitting someone like that (and with that supposed degree of violence) is out of the question. You should only fight someone if you're in danger, and while this poor hypothetical man was in danger of heartbreak and humiliation, stomping on someone is just crazy. Not cool.
 

Xan Krieger

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Yes and it's a shame he didn't kill her. She'd need some kind of punishment because that is just wrong so what he did was perfectly justified and what should be expected of anyone.
 

Auron225

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No. I can understand why he did it of course, but I dont support him in it. Violence should always be the last straw. Doing this didnt gain him anything, it actually cost him part of what he hasnt lost already.
 

Brandon237

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Shock and Awe said:
I won't really say he was justified, but on a personal level....***** had it coming.

Just sayin'.
This indeed.
He has no right to do it, legally and morally you should not.
That said, if I was there I wouldn't hold it against him. That is some serious life-screwing going on there.

A would say that a very hard backhand (read: bitchslap) would be totally morally justified and understandable though. The injury is not permanent or severe. And frankly she deserves the beating, but he should not be the one to be allowed to administer it.
 

Phasmal

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No.
And I'm kind of grossed out at all the yeses (I understand it's your opinion, but it still makes me feel sick).

I dont think you are justified in raising your hand to anyone unless in self-defence or defence of another.

It is not okay to stomp on someone because they broke your heart.
I dont think you could construct a scenario where, outside of being in physical danger, I would say its OKAY to beat your ex/spouse.

That kind of violence, in all its forms, is disgusting.

kman123 said:
Woman equality and shit like that.

If a guy did that to a woman you wouldn't think twice that it was justified that she beat him up.

I think it's 'fair'. I personally would never do that, but I guess that's just because I'm a MASSIVE PUSSY.
Why do people keep saying this?
I'm a woman, and if my boyfriend did this, I would be heartbroken, but I wouldn't raise a hand to him.
Because it's fucking wrong.
 

Mafoobula

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Are we talking face-stomping, or more on the torso? Face-stomping is too much, but body shots are barely on this side of okay/too far.
On the other hand, a single punch to the face isn't quite enough. I'd say two or three really good hits, OR, one big damn hay-maker.

Actually, I take that back. He should've been quiet and let them talk their shit. Then, in a lull, just say "Thanks, I think I have enough for a case, now." Then go see a lawyer. If the guy is rich, hit him where it hurts: RIGHT in the wallet.

In short: Justified? Meh... I wouldn't have done all that, but it's fairly understandable.
 
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Not justified. At least, not in the eyes of a court. Still, I would sympathize with him.

Best response from him would have been "You know, I'm glad this happenned, because otherwise I'd have been trapped in a marriage with a total !@#ch and taken for everything I had. *looks at the other man* I hope you guys have a prenup agreement, because she's probably gonna milk you dry, and then leave your sorry ass while taking what little is left. Thanks for taking the bullet for me!" And then he leaves. THAT would have been the best response, IMO.